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Post by sbscnor on May 12, 2021 13:25:26 GMT 1
Anyone bought the 3D printed coil cover currently on Ebay looks pretty good. |
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Post by headcoats on May 12, 2021 13:27:45 GMT 1
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Post by sbscnor on May 12, 2021 15:28:06 GMT 1
Just click on the word "Ebay" in my original post to view it |
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Post by Gunny on May 12, 2021 18:00:10 GMT 1
I still think they are a really pointless thing, i have one fitted but only cause it came with the bike
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Post by alankelly on May 12, 2021 19:32:01 GMT 1
Yes that’s a nice print
Hats off to them for that one
Best wishes Al
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Post by reedpete on May 12, 2021 20:20:31 GMT 1
I still think they are a really pointless thing, i have one fitted but only cause it came with the bike I thought that because the last thing it does is cover the coil ! But in terms of tidying up and stopping the cluster of loom connectors from wondering all over the place....very useful! Should it command the price it does....🙈🙈🙈...thats a scratched record ! |
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Post by headcoats on May 12, 2021 21:29:16 GMT 1
How long would that take tp print
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stotty
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Post by stotty on May 18, 2021 12:31:22 GMT 1
I bought one..broke in two when fitting. It’s too rigid. The plastic is thick, looks like it’s made in several pieces and bonded or plastic welded..I haven’t contacted the lad yet.. I’ll prob ask for refund..🤔 as they are a bit pointless..
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Post by JonW on May 18, 2021 13:20:33 GMT 1
I bought one..broke in two when fitting. It’s too rigid. The plastic is thick, looks like it’s made in several pieces and bonded or plastic welded..I haven’t contacted the lad yet.. I’ll prob ask for refund..🤔 as they are a bit pointless.. I did wonder about this, Im sure the right material would help as these do have to be opened out to be fitted. |
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Post by headcoats on May 18, 2021 16:55:40 GMT 1
Oh dear back to the drawing board then, that's a shame
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Post by bare on May 18, 2021 17:36:36 GMT 1
Been a printer Weenie for a few years now.
Yess I know .. I print junk for my grandaughters as my only redeeming excuse.
Initial reaction on seeing that print was: It's Gonna snap on install.
It's far too thick and it should be printed in PTEG filament .. similar stuff as plastic drinks bottles: tough and a bit flexy.
One can also print in Nylon.
Then there's the Price. IMO a Wee bit 'aggressive' to say the least.
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Post by downerhouse on May 18, 2021 19:39:37 GMT 1
Hi everyone
Just thought I'd chip in, as I'm the guy that makes and sells these, and to hopefully help with any concerns or questions
This 3d printed coil bracket part is made in a single piece. It is not plastic welded or assembled in any way using glues etc.
I have spent 6 months designing this and getting it ready for market. For those who have any involvent with 3d printing will know how difficult it is to print an item such as this.
During the development, I have printed countless prototypes at considerable expense, and I can honestly say that during this development time, not a single part has failed in this way. ABS is an inherently strong and flexible plastic, albeit not as flexible as the OEM Yamaha item.
I am sure that most people have had product issues before with household names & brands, and no product is ever 100% perfect.
The most important thing is what a business does to make its customers happy when unfortunate and unforseen issues occur.
I already offered a number of resolutions to my customer within a few minutes of being notified there was an issue.
I'll continue to refine my design and product and any customer who buys from me can be sure I stand behind anything I bring to market
Hope that helps but happy to take any questions!
Steve
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Post by dusty350 on May 18, 2021 20:00:50 GMT 1
Well, good on you Steve, you cant say fairer than that ! And well done for taking the time and effort to produce a part that is no longer available new. If I had an Lc, I would want a coil cover. Good luck Dusty  |
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Post by veg on May 18, 2021 20:31:09 GMT 1
So the product is offering something that is no longer available, at a reasonable price (irrespective of what 1 may sayer might state) and has potentially filled a gap in the market.
This far all kudos to you, then when there has been an issue the seller/designer and manufacturer has come straight on here, explained the situation and apologised(unlike shambits et al) offered an explanation and also a solution.
Again kudos to you.
I don’t know one end of a 3D printer from my arse so again I’m impressed. Hope you get this resolved and thanks for taking the time out to let us know. 👍
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Post by downerhouse on May 18, 2021 22:10:50 GMT 1
Been a printer Weenie for a few years now. Yess I know .. I print junk for my grandaughters as my only redeeming excuse. Initial reaction on seeing that print was: It's Gonna snap on install. It's far too thick and it should be printed in PTEG filament .. similar stuff as plastic drinks bottles: tough and a bit flexy. One can also print in Nylon. Then there's the Price. IMO a Wee bit 'aggressive' to say the least. Thanks for the feedback. I'll aim to deal with your comments in turn: 1. Initial reaction. "it's going to snap". You do realise that the vast majority of motorcycle body parts are made from ABS? If so, you will know that such parts have reasonable flex and impact resistance? I may be a small company, but it goes without saying that I would not bring to market a product that has not been thoroughly tested. In my world, this means making a quality product that fits its intended purpose and does not snap. If my 100s of prototypes had snapped, it would not be for sale. 2.its too thick and should be printed in PETG or nylon. The original OEM Yamaha item was too thin and prone to breaking, and is a contributory factor on why this product has a demand. My version has a much higher quality design, but ABS is not as flexible as the OEM plastic, which is mentioned on my sales listing on eBay. 3. As you have knowledge of 3d printing, you will know that a part such as this coil cover will require significant printing supports to make it viable. Neither PETG nor nylon are good materials to use where significant supports are required. 4. The price. Well apart from the fact that nobody's arm is twisted to purchase, just consider the 100s of hours of development time and cost I have invested in bringing this to market. In addition, each product takes 7 hours to print. Consider the eBay fees, packaging, banking fees, material cost, R&D time, warranty replacements, and time I spend supporting my customers. That makes it seriously less than minimum wage stuff. But I'd be very happy for any other person to undercut me with a better product for less money. In the end I try to charge a reasonable price that makes it worthwhile for me to produce it at. Have a great evening. |
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Post by donkeychomp on May 18, 2021 22:45:15 GMT 1
Well said sir.
Alex
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Post by veg on May 18, 2021 22:47:31 GMT 1
Bare is a glass half empty type of guy. He doesn’t live in the UK so thinks we are all mad.
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Post by shaunthe2nd on May 18, 2021 23:04:33 GMT 1
I'm glad that someone is giving it a go, and is trying to provide some customer after care too.
He sounds like the sort of guy who wants to get it as good as possible and I wish him best.
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Post by steve h on May 18, 2021 23:09:21 GMT 1
Jeezus... I would not want to be reincarnated as a printer...at 40 quid the poor beggers working for peanuts!!
Must be hours in that bit of plastic.
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Post by alankelly on May 18, 2021 23:30:38 GMT 1
Yes I though £40 was a good price as it’s a complex part to make (That’s why it never made it onto my parts list)
And all this type of work takes time and money to get your part right
So good on him for giving it a go and wish him the best
Best wishes Al
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stotty
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Post by stotty on May 19, 2021 9:22:32 GMT 1
Just received refund from Steve at Printed Parts..comms have been very good as has his word. For me the part just needs a little development to reduce rigidity and improve flex. It covers the coil area as per the std part (which I also have..in 2 pieces..🙄) so will fulfill its intended purpose. Repeat removal and refitting may also be a consideration arguably..it’s a genuinely good effort that, when tweaked, I would buy again.
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Post by reedpete on May 19, 2021 11:41:26 GMT 1
It’s just my opinion but the moment a part becomes recognisable as a pattern part, it’s better to focus on function than form. The restorers will always seek OE, but as a ‘connector tidy’ the coil cover does do a useful job.
So my thoughts would be to take the construction hassle out of it, modify as a clamshell design or make in two or more parts with snap connectors our just use plastic rivets.
Material wise, it doesn’t need any particular strength and doesn’t need to be particularly heat resistant. Profile stability and flexibility ( and colour) really the core requirements.
So a bit like Norbos ‘tail tidy’ , I think this is one hard to find part that would be better complemented with a functional alternative rather than try and clone.
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Post by downerhouse on May 19, 2021 11:50:23 GMT 1
Just received refund from Steve at Printed Parts..comms have been very good as has his word. For me the part just needs a little development to reduce rigidity and improve flex. It covers the coil area as per the std part (which I also have..in 2 pieces..🙄) so will fulfill its intended purpose. Repeat removal and refitting may also be a consideration arguably..it’s a genuinely good effort that, when tweaked, I would buy again. Thanks :-) I have been selling my printed parts on Ebay and other places for over a year, and I have not had a single disatissfied customer. I always make sure people are 100% happy, even if it costs me money. As an aside, I tried to demonstrate the normal strength and flexibility of the coil mount this morning, and I think everyone will agree that the flex withing the existing design, is more than enough to stretch over the LC frame. Was a bit difficult taking the photo without help, but I think you'll get the general idea from the attached. One photo shows the normal "resting" position of the coil cover, the other is as far as I could stretch the sides one handed. Hope that helps anybody who is interested in purchasing my product. And as a final comment, I do very much appreciate all feedback - good or bad. The beauty of 3d printing is that it is a truly agile production method, and every print I manufacture can potentially be slightly different from the previous one - as I try to build in as many improvements on all my products as possible in order to ensure that are as good as they can possibly be. Hope everyone has a great day and thanks for your interest.   |
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Post by tlmark on May 19, 2021 12:08:26 GMT 1
When you have some more let me know Steve I'd be interested
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Post by downerhouse on May 19, 2021 13:29:46 GMT 1
When you have some more let me know Steve I'd be interested [br I have a batch good to go - can do you a discount if you'd like to do a transaction direct as I will avoid ebay fees etc. You'll get the same customer service and support as any other of my customers. If interested, please PM me and I can give you the details. Thanks Steve] |
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