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Post by tony2stroke on Mar 9, 2021 13:07:00 GMT 1
On another forum, a guy had his bike stolen, shortly after the 17 year old ploughed it into a lamp post, he died, so the owner goes to see Police about getting bike back, or even to see it, they tell him the bike has to be inspected, to see if there were any faults that lead to the bike being at fault, in case the family want to take legal action against the owner for dangerous vehicle, if it turns out bike was at fault, WTF, that has blown my mind away, how can it be the owners fault, he didn't know someone was going to nic his bike, that is out of order  |
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Post by chrisg on Mar 9, 2021 14:03:31 GMT 1
It appears that we are going down the litigation road that the Americans went down years ago. The only winner is going to be the solicitors. £££
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Post by 29davyt on Mar 9, 2021 14:46:29 GMT 1
Duty of care gone mad, best make sure all your bikes are taxed,tested,insured and in a roadworthy condition, also don’t forget to check tyre pressures, oil and water, also if you can try to keep a full tank of fuel in at all times then if said scumbag does steal it he/she won’t have to stop at the nearest petrol station and rob the fuel from there ..
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Post by steve h on Mar 9, 2021 14:53:36 GMT 1
Tony... Why are you so surprised?? Things have bent this way because good people have done nothing to prevent it.... Common sense has no place in the judiciary and its parasites.
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Post by headcoats on Mar 9, 2021 14:54:17 GMT 1
They should have said live by the sword die by the sword !
Done them a favour as the thief probably would have committed another umpteen crimes with no custodial sentence !
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Post by st66 on Mar 9, 2021 17:59:35 GMT 1
It's gone down the same road as if you beat a burglar in your house half to death you can be prosecuted for giving him said kicking this happened to a friend of mine who quick wittedly placed a 12 gauge shotgun in said burglars hands prints all over it he only got away with prosecution as he claimed self defense as a threat to life, ,,, it is shocking how the law can work against one at times, be careful chaps
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Post by Tobyjugs on Mar 9, 2021 18:10:07 GMT 1
I think I will hang a board on my bike which says unroadworthy ride at own risk.
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Post by steve h on Mar 9, 2021 21:08:07 GMT 1
I think I will hang a board on my bike which says unroadworthy ride at own risk. I say you should drop the "ride at own risk" as this will be conceived as an actual invite to physically ride it... thus landing you in it when the parasites get hold of it. You need to remove a wheel or something to make it impossible to ride, and also add a disclaimer that the parts on it are "for parts or repair" (like a well known merchant of tat on ebay does). And even then you may not have covered all bases.... for goodness sake, don't leave any trip hazards on the garage floor and make sure the garage is well lit inside 24hrs a day...... |
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Post by earthman on Mar 9, 2021 21:40:58 GMT 1
I think I will hang a board on my bike which says unroadworthy ride at own risk. Well I'm now thinking about the times when you are in the middle of working on a vehicle, you leave it to go and collect parts etc, if it's stolen before you get to fit those brake pads, I suppose it's still your fault.  |
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Post by midlifecrisisrd on Mar 9, 2021 21:58:20 GMT 1
I'm off the mind that if they steal it not knowing it's not road worthy and that causes an accident then tough. Not like you gave consent or said that it was safe
What next? Prick steals a high powered car, crashes it then takes them to court for having such a high powered vehicle 🙄
Steve
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Post by steve h on Mar 9, 2021 21:59:22 GMT 1
I think I will hang a board on my bike which says unroadworthy ride at own risk. Well I'm now thinking about the times when you are in the middle of working on a vehicle, you leave it to go and collect parts etc, if it's stolen before you get to fit those brake pads, I suppose it's still your fault. I once worked for an American owned company in UK, and every time we had a break ie, brew time (twice a day) and dinner time, we had to dismantle a zip up scaffold compleate with stabilisers, kick boards, etc. Their argument was that it was "unsafe" to leave it erected as anybody could climb up it! So leaving your bike to collect parts wont wash..... you should still remove a wheel or maybe the engine or something. They say we are behind the US in some ways..... well above idiocy was in 1992..... |
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Post by midlifecrisisrd on Mar 9, 2021 22:02:21 GMT 1
But when you think about it sensibly removing the key leaves it in a safe condition.
Like locking off an isolator. If some dick smashes the padlock, switches it on and blows themself up it ain't nobody's fault but his for defeating the safety device
Steve
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Post by Tobyjugs on Mar 9, 2021 22:04:20 GMT 1
Good point Steve
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Post by midlifecrisisrd on Mar 9, 2021 22:06:08 GMT 1
Maybe we should be leaving a helmet beside our locked bikes to ensure any potential theif has some safety equipment 🤔
Steve
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Post by steve h on Mar 9, 2021 22:17:12 GMT 1
But when you think about it sensibly removing the key leaves it in a safe condition. Like locking off an isolator. If some dick smashes the padlock, switches it on and blows themself up it ain't nobody's fault but his for defeating the safety device Steve Locking off the isolator.... Well. The isolator was locked off.. and the fuse carriage was removed (and taken away to a locked contractors cabin) Over the weekend, a maintenance moron removed a carriage from elsewhere and fitted that, removed warning sign, cut lock off, reconnected cable, livened it up, electrocuted someone on the other end. Was he sacked? No. But the contractor who made it safe was..... A true story, happened to a mate. He had even removed the cable from the board. They kicked him off site for not shorting out the cable ends at the other end.... |
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Post by midlifecrisisrd on Mar 9, 2021 22:25:02 GMT 1
I've never shorted out the other end...
...but then I have been electrocuted quite a lot 😬
Steve
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Post by Norbo on Mar 10, 2021 10:15:41 GMT 1
Thats f**king crazy i hope this is not true
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Post by zed1015 on Mar 10, 2021 10:24:12 GMT 1
The cops are idiots and can barely find their own arse with a mirror.
The owner of the bike will never get prosecuted.
The case will get thrown out of court at the first reading if by some miracle it ever got that far..
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Post by tony2stroke on Mar 10, 2021 10:42:09 GMT 1
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Post by JonW on Mar 11, 2021 4:09:00 GMT 1
nope, you have to be a member. |
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Post by drc on Mar 11, 2021 23:53:02 GMT 1
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Post by Eyeore on Mar 12, 2021 12:35:27 GMT 1
The Police have a duty to investigate fully and report to the Coroner what happened, it doesn't matter what the circumstances were. the bike will always be examined.
The owner wouldn't be found responsible unless they'd done something to cause it.
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Post by murp on Mar 12, 2021 20:41:10 GMT 1
A few years ago someone sold a bike and forgot to cancel insurance.... New owner had a big crash and was uninsured..... They came after the innocent bloke who sold it..... Apparently it was very costly if I remember
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Post by earthman on Mar 12, 2021 21:34:39 GMT 1
A few years ago someone sold a bike and forgot to cancel insurance.... New owner had a big crash and was uninsured..... They came after the innocent bloke who sold it..... Apparently it was very costly if I remember I had heard of that or a case very similar, bottom line is that it's important to cancel the insurance the moment you sell a vehicle I guess. |
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Post by veg on Mar 12, 2021 22:43:44 GMT 1
Is insurance important?
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Post by steve h on Mar 12, 2021 23:55:27 GMT 1
Nahh... not to those who don't buy it..... |
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Post by chrisg on Mar 14, 2021 23:48:10 GMT 1
For the youf' , its cheaper to pay the fine than pay for insurance, so no brainer if you've no brains.
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Post by mattlon on Mar 15, 2021 21:18:28 GMT 1
I give up 😂
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