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Post by st66 on Jan 18, 2021 20:45:21 GMT 1
Well there you go,, read today its official,, th uk has the highest death rate in the WORLD, the b*****d WORLD MIND YOU due to covid 89000 plus deaths,, ,
Now do we blame the governments handling of the citation?? I think most would agree it has been a tad poor, BUT
do we blame the great UK public??? but again??
Or do we Blame THE SELFISH SELF-CENTRED b*****dS THAT TAKE NO FKN NOTICE OF THE WARNINGS WHO THINK ITS OK TO WALSE AROUND IN LESS THAN 2MTRs ON THE STREET OR IN FKN ASDA, IN GROUPS OF MORE THAN 6 HAVING PARTY'S OR DRIVING 200MLS FOR A MACY D,, , ECT ECT ECT I FOR ONE HOPE THOSE IN THE LATER ARE REALY PROUD THAT THEY ARE BRITISH,, TOSSA'S
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Post by Chewie01 on Jan 18, 2021 20:53:29 GMT 1
On the plus side deaths by heart attack, cancer and flu are at an all time low. Or it could be they are at normal levels and the statistics are over inflated.
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Post by veg on Jan 18, 2021 20:55:39 GMT 1
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Post by earthman on Jan 18, 2021 20:55:49 GMT 1
I personally know of someone who died via suicide, another guy who died of heart disease yet they were both counted as covid deaths! Sorry but I can't believe that that 89000 figure is actually correct due to such examples,.....it's like we have cured death from cancer etc during these last 10 months, if only that were true.
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Post by Chewie01 on Jan 18, 2021 20:59:23 GMT 1
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Post by st66 on Jan 18, 2021 21:02:48 GMT 1
Well the independent has quoted the figure at 89921 so it's in black and white so, again does one believe the hype so to speak, either way it's thought provoking,, I mean as of today all incoming uk flights hav been blocked from entering the UK,,, that should of happened an eon ago borris, how do you stop a virus spreading,, you contain it if you can,, CONTAIN IT,, yeah right oh I'm just glad it wasn't ebola or worse they would be f**kd
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Post by st66 on Jan 18, 2021 21:04:05 GMT 1
[br Had tonsils out veg mate lol]??
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Post by earthman on Jan 18, 2021 21:29:45 GMT 1
To think of how many world leaders, people in government, main stream actors and celebrities who have come out and said that they have had covid during the course of these 10 months, have any of them actually died from it? The likes of Boris, Tom Hanks, Dwayne Johnson etc etc are all still alive,....now if Trump were succesfully treated via using a cheap drug, why on earth are they not looking into that rather then push a vaccine?!
Another drug is Ivermectin, again why on earth are the powers at be not at least looking into it, this doctor's results of it look good.
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Post by Chewie01 on Jan 18, 2021 21:42:20 GMT 1
This is the thing that worries me the most about the covid situation. Every other covid pandemic that's come out of China has been beaten with existing drugs. This time around anyone talking about using them has been shut down, ridiculed and ignored in favour of waiting for big pharma coming to the rescue with a new patterned drug.
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Post by veg on Jan 18, 2021 21:50:52 GMT 1
[br Had tonsils out veg mate lol]?? No young Anthony but Iβve seen how you βdealβ with non believers, m16 plus m79 grenade launcher itβs 5.62mm versus anti maskers bring it on
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Post by st66 on Jan 18, 2021 22:04:49 GMT 1
Pmsl that mint πππππππππ
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Post by tony2stroke on Jan 18, 2021 22:07:43 GMT 1
Doesn't matter if you are an anti masker, Law says you have to wear it or get fined, some can't wear one though, there are legal legitimate reasons, same goes for 2 meter rule too, you have to do it regardless, those that don't get refused service, or that is the case here in Wales, and we have the highest case rate in the UK, Cum Taff Bridgend area, look it up.
As I can't have the jab even if I trusted it due to serious reactions to vaccines in the past, I am hopping for a cure too rather than a vaccine, its no use to me, I need a cure for it if I do get it, and there are many like me out there.
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Post by st66 on Jan 18, 2021 22:27:57 GMT 1
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Post by steve h on Jan 18, 2021 22:47:08 GMT 1
Doesn't matter if you are an anti masker, Law says you have to wear it or get fined, some can't wear one though, there are legal legitimate reasons, same goes for 2 meter rule too, you have to do it regardless, those that don't get refused service, or that is the case here in Wales, and we have the highest case rate in the UK, Cum Taff Bridgend area, look it up. As I can't have the jab even if I trusted it due to serious reactions to vaccines in the past, I am hopping for a cure too rather than a vaccine, its no use to me, I need a cure for it if I do get it, and there are many like me out there. You might need to speak to immunology at the local hospital, they treat all sorts of allergic reactions. And when you have the therapy, you will be under observation for a while after treatment. My Mrs is having treatment for her allergic reaction to bee stings.... 3 yrs long treatment. Worth checking out if there is a provision for a similar observation period for the covid vaccine inoculation? Yes, I have heard of people having bad reactions to inoculations...I had reaction to some "doctor" flushing my canula with saline..... out of it...they thought I was dying. Not had anything similar, and had LOADS inserted since...
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Post by tony2stroke on Jan 18, 2021 23:25:18 GMT 1
Doesn't matter if you are an anti masker, Law says you have to wear it or get fined, some can't wear one though, there are legal legitimate reasons, same goes for 2 meter rule too, you have to do it regardless, those that don't get refused service, or that is the case here in Wales, and we have the highest case rate in the UK, Cum Taff Bridgend area, look it up. As I can't have the jab even if I trusted it due to serious reactions to vaccines in the past, I am hopping for a cure too rather than a vaccine, its no use to me, I need a cure for it if I do get it, and there are many like me out there. You might need to speak to immunology at the local hospital, they treat all sorts of allergic reactions. And when you have the therapy, you will be under observation for a while after treatment. My Mrs is having treatment for her allergic reaction to bee stings.... 3 yrs long treatment. Worth checking out if there is a provision for a similar observation period for the covid vaccine inoculation? Yes, I have heard of people having bad reactions to inoculations...I had reaction to some "doctor" flushing my canula with saline..... out of it...they thought I was dying. Not had anything similar, and had LOADS inserted since... Thanks for that thought, I get the lips and tongue swelling up, you can't breath, its terrifying, I am not prepared to take the risk again, I 1st had it when I had 1st flue jab with pneumonia jab too, next time it was flue jab time they said most likely a reaction to the pneumonia vaccine, more people have reaction to that, so I had the flue jab again, swollen tongue and lips again, never again, the jab they give me can kill me faster the illness its supposed to protect me from.
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Post by midlifecrisisrd on Jan 19, 2021 9:58:19 GMT 1
On the plus side deaths by heart attack, cancer and flu are at an all time low. Or it could be they are at normal levels and the statistics are over inflated. You can't argue with the ONT stating 2020 deaths are the highest since WW2 Of course flu deaths are down. Wearing a mask, staying 2m apart and hand hygiene stops flu spreading too. Also helps that this year everybody over 50 was offered vaccination As for the cancer and heart attacks it stands to reason that people with a weakened immune system or too weak to fight off Covid will die. Regardless of what actually killed them it is highly likely it was a contributing factor The stats have to be counted somehow and as realistically testing positive to death is usually within 28 days Yes there may be some slipping through as not killed by covid but percentage wise I'd think it is negligible Steve
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Post by st66 on Jan 19, 2021 11:25:41 GMT 1
Well my father who had cancer 10years ago has no immune system wotsoever thanks to radio therapy, has constant chest infections but they say its the same one wich mutates constantly as it fights of the drugs,, so we have to be careful not to go near him with colds or flu ect,, now he's been offered the vaccine but his consultant has said not to take it as it could kill him off,, now I don't know the pyshics or the chemistry of this and yes he has no imunne system so to speak,, but it puzzles me??? So yes there will be exceptions and I hope you get sorted Steve h mate, but I still agree with steve midlife in that I think covid is a bigger killer than said other conditions, but in context if you are at a weakened state due to illness or age covid will take you,,, wich gets me back to the original issue people need to think and stop putting there selves and the other 50 or more people they come into contact daily at risk,, I have the cure tho it's 5.56 mm made of brass and lead,,, but I can't do that anymore luckily for those said ignorant f**ks, say hello to my lickle friend π€
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Post by chrisg on Jan 19, 2021 11:49:32 GMT 1
Well my father who had cancer 10years ago has no immune system wotsoever thanks to radio therapy, has constant chest infections but they say its the same one wich mutates constantly as it fights of the drugs,, so we have to be careful not to go near him with colds or flu ect,, now he's been offered the vaccine but his consultant has said not to take it as it could kill him off,, now I don't know the pyshics or the chemistry of this and yes he has no imunne system so to speak,, but it puzzles me??? So yes there will be exceptions and I hope you get sorted Steve h mate, but I still agree with steve midlife in that I think covid is a bigger killer than said other conditions, but in context if you are at a weakened state due to illness or age covid will take you,,, wich gets me back to the original issue people need to think and stop putting there selves and the other 50 or more people they come into contact daily at risk,, I have the cure tho it's 5.56 mm made of brass and lead,,, but I can't do that anymore luckily for those said ignorant f**ks, say hello to my lickle friend π€ 50 cal would work a lot better π±
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Post by tony2stroke on Jan 19, 2021 12:27:50 GMT 1
According to the sun news paper yesterday, the Chinese gov have admitted to the inspectors that have been sent there, that the virus was accidently released, they had been messing around with the virus and it was an accident that it slipped out, why do they take the risk with these things, now we are all paying the price.
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Post by headcoats on Jan 19, 2021 21:56:58 GMT 1
Well my Mom and Mother in law are both getting the vaccine at the end of this week
Father in law on the other hand is in a home with dementia and just caught covid
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Post by dusty350 on Jan 19, 2021 22:29:05 GMT 1
My Dad is 89 and now in a care home. He had the jab on Sunday. My 85 year old Mum had it about 10 days ago. Both are fine with no adverse reactions. Hope your father in law is ok Martin.
Dusty
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Post by earthman on Jan 19, 2021 22:50:22 GMT 1
Well my father who had cancer 10years ago has no immune system wotsoever thanks to radio therapy, has constant chest infections but they say its the same one wich mutates constantly as it fights of the drugs,, so we have to be careful not to go near him with colds or flu ect,, now he's been offered the vaccine but his consultant has said not to take it as it could kill him off,, now I don't know the pyshics or the chemistry of this and yes he has no imunne system so to speak,, but it puzzles me??? So yes there will be exceptions and I hope you get sorted Steve h mate, but I still agree with steve midlife in that I think covid is a bigger killer than said other conditions, but in context if you are at a weakened state due to illness or age covid will take you,,, wich gets me back to the original issue people need to think and stop putting there selves and the other 50 or more people they come into contact daily at risk,, I have the cure tho it's 5.56 mm made of brass and lead,,, but I can't do that anymore luckily for those said ignorant f**ks, say hello to my lickle friend π€ I have heard of another case where a doctor strongly advised that a person with a low immune system should not take a vaccine, not just this covid one either. You do know that this virus and all it's future mutations are here to stay, no matter how many different types of new 'vaccines' they may come out with,...you keep blaming 'ignorant f**ks' for it's spread but how do you know for sure that even 'careful' shoopers aren't spreading it? We can all go to a supermarket, spend 8 hours a day 'at work' in some factories/workplaces etc so what on earth is the difference between those enviorments and say a small shop on the high st? Anyone who's seriously at risk/vulnerable should either wear a hazmat suit or lock themselves away, that's the only real answer to this I feel.
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Post by st66 on Jan 20, 2021 20:28:01 GMT 1
I'm not saying there is a difference mate in workplaces or supermarkets, wot I'm saying is those people let's say who don't take precautions or simply don't care are the ones I'm pointing the finger at,,, yes you can go to asda and pick up a box and catch covid, they estimate it can live on cardboard for think it was 8 hrs if I remember, but a,, if you have covid you shouldn't be out anyway, b don't pick something and decide to put it back if you have symptoms, I personally wear disposable gloves in shops then throw them ASAP who else does??? ,, yes there are those who are unaware they have it until they get a test agree yes,, this is my whole point it spreads so easily, but I've seen folk who don't ware any type of mask, who walk in groups of 6 plus bunched up like grapes,, those are the ignorant fks I'm referring too,, and its still going on daily I see it myself if they think there imune or I won't get it on there heads be it but they obviously don't see or get the bigger picture,, hope that clarifys the meaning of ignorant fcks πππππ
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Post by earthman on Jan 20, 2021 21:03:04 GMT 1
I have no doubt that not all areas are going to be the same, I've certainly not seen groups like that around here, most folk around here won't even stay on the same side of street, I often see people crossing over to the other side or waiting in a doorway etc for the other person to pass. Surely this were the norm even where you are say back in March? Back then, during the 1st lockdown, no one had any reason not to fully believe everything the government and main media told you about this,.....since then many have had personal experience of the PCR test and it's inaccuracy for one, death certificates of loved ones being changed etc, stuff like that that's really hard to ignore.
On top of that, if you now happen to have lost your job, business and home even, due to the governments constant cycle of these 'lockdowns', you can't blame folk for now calling this out, like thousands have already done in Italy, Austria, Poland and a fair few other countries.
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Post by st66 on Jan 20, 2021 21:43:14 GMT 1
Don't disagree, but where I dwell wot you have said, people crossing the road? Waiting in doorways for others to pass?? Wtf is that it doesn't happen here far from it,,, fair play if folk do that in your area I commend that,, but honestly it doesn't happen here or other places I've seen,,, but I don't think you get the point of wot I'm saying, π€―
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Post by chrisg on Jan 20, 2021 22:02:05 GMT 1
Most people where I live cross over to keep distancing, however if i go to busy areas like the Trafford Centre people dont appear to care,mostly younger or very old people. As for people saying that there is no covid, it's all a government hoax is unbelievable.
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Post by headcoats on Jan 20, 2021 22:09:46 GMT 1
My niece who is a vet and first year in a practice has now got covid Apparently a couple who had the virus let the brother bring their dog in and it can be on the dogs fur so that's how she thinks she got it
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Post by tony2stroke on Jan 20, 2021 22:40:43 GMT 1
When I go to shops I see the same thing, people crossing road, hiding in doorways while people pass, squeezing into the corners on stairs, ect ect, I wear gloves and mask, you have to wear a mask or you won't get allowed in and served, only 2 people in small shops, most shops have hand cleanser as you walk in, and larger shops have security on the doors, always have done for shoplifters, yet we have the largest infection rate per person in the UK, it doesn't make sense does it.
We did have a little trouble at the start, you most likely seen it on the news, Ogmore by sea about 6 miles away from where I live and the mass brawl, but nothing like it since.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 20, 2021 23:32:00 GMT 1
I think the 'eat out to help out' scheme may have added to the problem somewhat. I mean... one day you're all locked in, the next Uncle Boris is going Dutch on your meals out. I feel for anyone in hospitality, but that was f**king stupid.
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Post by headcoats on Jan 21, 2021 0:13:11 GMT 1
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