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Post by archloafer on Dec 6, 2020 15:41:08 GMT 1
Hi folks
I've recently become aware again of how slow the steering is on a standard LC. Considering getting a jack-up kit from NK Racing.
Thoughts from anyone who has used one? Pros / cons?
Cheers - David
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Post by veg on Dec 6, 2020 15:56:45 GMT 1
new rd125 rear shock same fitting but 1 inch longer. Just remember though these are all relative mods you’re talking about an old design old technology skinny tyres poor brakes etc upgrade one may highlight another deficiency.
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Post by Norbo on Dec 6, 2020 19:23:20 GMT 1
w allways fitted 125 shocks
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Post by stusco on Dec 6, 2020 19:34:04 GMT 1
Hey Norbo where have you moved to ? Could be a good excuse for a run in the better weather
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Post by archloafer on Dec 6, 2020 19:47:28 GMT 1
new rd125 rear shock same fitting but 1 inch longer. Just remember though these are all relative mods you’re talking about an old design old technology skinny tyres poor brakes etc upgrade one may highlight another deficiency. I replaced the OE shock with a Hagon - would be reluctant to ditch that for a 125 one. From the picture of the NK Racing kit, looks like it would raise the back end by about an inch. I get you wrt to changing one thing and it messing up something else. Trying to find out what other people's experiences of a similar setup are before shelling out £65! Have you ridden a 2/350 with a 125 shock, and if so how did it go? |
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Post by donkeychomp on Dec 6, 2020 22:27:25 GMT 1
From my hazy early days on LCs that mod was all the rage. I recall people using coins and/or washers to get the desired effect...don't ask me how it worked! Not a clue. There was a road we all used to race, sorry, ride down with a huge left hand bend that went downhill and got tighter and tighter as you went (Egham, a few here will know it) and a mate had just jacked up his 250LC. I just sailed around him on my standard height one...so either he was being nervous about his latest idea or it ruined the handling...
Alex
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Post by earthman on Dec 6, 2020 23:32:32 GMT 1
new rd125 rear shock same fitting but 1 inch longer. Just remember though these are all relative mods you’re talking about an old design old technology skinny tyres poor brakes etc upgrade one may highlight another deficiency. I replaced the OE shock with a Hagon - would be reluctant to ditch that for a 125 one. From the picture of the NK Racing kit, looks like it would raise the back end by about an inch. I get you wrt to changing one thing and it messing up something else. Trying to find out what other people's experiences of a similar setup are before shelling out £65! Have you ridden a 2/350 with a 125 shock, and if so how did it go? What's the biggest difference you've noticed using their rear shock? I recently fitted their fork springs, gained about 1cm in ride height and notice an improvement on the road in general. |
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Post by Tobyjugs on Dec 6, 2020 23:46:26 GMT 1
On the track in Cartegena Kees was having clearance issues so we started raising the back up. The feed back from Kees was that it became easier to slide or loose the back end.
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Post by Norbo on Dec 7, 2020 10:05:09 GMT 1
If you did need a complete shocker i have 1 custom made haygon extra long for jacking up the back end made for a race bike but then never collected . £310
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Post by archloafer on Dec 7, 2020 19:49:37 GMT 1
From my hazy early days on LCs that mod was all the rage. I recall people using coins and/or washers to get the desired effect...don't ask me how it worked! Not a clue. There was a road we all used to race, sorry, ride down with a huge left hand bend that went downhill and got tighter and tighter as you went (Egham, a few here will know it) and a mate had just jacked up his 250LC. I just sailed around him on my standard height one...so either he was being nervous about his latest idea or it ruined the handling... Alex Hey Alex I think the coins / washers thing was to go on top of the fork springs to try and stiffen up the baggy suspension. No idea if it worked or not! Useful insight - thank you. It's a tough call. I'd just like the bike to turn in a bit sharper, but if that's at the expense of an overall loss of stability (perhaps inevitable?), then maybe not worth it. 1 inch higher at the back doesn't seem a great deal... but then a lot of engineering nous goes into the design of motorcycle geometry. I seem to be talking myself out of it  I'm not far from Egham - where is this hill of which you speak? Intrigued... Cheers - David |
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Post by archloafer on Dec 7, 2020 20:02:05 GMT 1
Hey Earthman To be fair, it's a long while since I've ridden an LC with standard suspension... However, I am impressed with the Hagon. The ride is firm but not harsh, damping seems excellent - bike doesn't squat under hard acceleration, no bounce or wallowing when cornering. You only get preload adjustment, but I'm OK with that. I also got the Hagon progressive fork springs, which I am also pretty impressed with. Overall the ride quality seems great. Taught might be the right word. How did you determine that the ride height went up by 1cm on your bike, out of interest  Cheers - David |
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Post by archloafer on Dec 7, 2020 20:05:26 GMT 1
On the track in Cartegena Kees was having clearance issues so we started raising the back up. The feed back from Kees was that it became easier to slide or loose the back end. Backing it in, on an LC |
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Post by archloafer on Dec 7, 2020 20:06:04 GMT 1
If you did need a complete shocker i have 1 custom made haygon extra long for jacking up the back end made for a race bike but then never collected . £310 Thanks Norbo - I'll bear that in mind. |
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Post by dusty350 on Dec 7, 2020 20:15:54 GMT 1
The coins/washers trick was to preload the springs  And there are 2 possibilities for the hill Alex is referring to - Egham Hill (A30), or more likely Tite Hill that runs parallel with it. I used to live just off of Tite Hill, and raced up and down it a few times ! Dusty  |
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Post by Tobyjugs on Dec 7, 2020 20:16:14 GMT 1
Kees's bike is still higher than standard I will measure it for you when I get a chance.
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Post by donkeychomp on Dec 7, 2020 22:20:28 GMT 1
Egham you say? I'm in Shepperton. And yes Dusty got it, the road off the A30, however Tite Hill can be, err, interesting lol.
Alex
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Post by donkeychomp on Dec 7, 2020 22:24:18 GMT 1
Actually, thinking about it, it's not Egham Hill. Go down the dual carriageway from the Crooked Billet to the M25, go left at the roundabout and stay left, then you hit the left hand bend that goes downhill to Egham. Think it used to house the AA at some time...the idea was to get your knee down at some point...
Alex
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Post by earthman on Dec 7, 2020 23:55:50 GMT 1
archloafer, I did wonder what the static ride height may have been on the current springs so I got the wife to take a measurement whilst I was sat on the bike, removed springs and found that they were under the specs in the manual, the Hagon ones sure are longer, bit more difficult to get the cap back on. Once fitted I got the wife to take another measurement, increase by about 1cm. Had to adjust the headlight down a bit come MOT time too.
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