Gee
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Post by Gee on Nov 2, 2020 11:56:44 GMT 1
Just picked up a German import 4lo last night and obviously need to register it with dvla. I have the German logbook and it's 1st registered June 1980 which makes it over 40 years old and MOT exempt.
Anyone had this and know if it still needs to be mot'd?
I will get it done anyway but wondered if I can start the registration process straight away.
Will also need a few parts so will post on the wanted thread when I know what I need.
Thanks
Gee
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Post by midlifecrisisrd on Nov 2, 2020 12:19:00 GMT 1
Think it will be 2021 before that is MOT excempt
All 1980 bikes have to be over 40 years
Steve
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Post by midlifecrisisrd on Nov 2, 2020 12:20:54 GMT 1
Looks like 1st April 2021 for you Steve  |
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Gee
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Post by Gee on Nov 2, 2020 15:14:18 GMT 1
Thanks Steve, hoped I could get the reg done quicker. Never mind.
Gee
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Post by oldelsieboy on Nov 2, 2020 15:22:13 GMT 1
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Post by midlifecrisisrd on Nov 2, 2020 17:35:07 GMT 1
Worth a try maybe I assumed being over 40 years by DVLA standards would be similar to the historic tax class rules The other thing with the mot excemption is that it says they can't have significant modifications within 30 years but then says "except motorcycles" so no rules on that at this time 😀 Steve |
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Post by alankelly on Nov 2, 2020 21:38:07 GMT 1
I thought even if a import is over the 40 year rule you still require a mot for the initial registration process as it proves to the DVLA the actual bike exists, then once you get the log book back and the bike has its 41st birthday you can then apply for historical vehicles
But I may be wrong☹️
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Post by midlifecrisisrd on Nov 2, 2020 22:11:02 GMT 1
I thought even if a import is over the 40 year rule you still require a mot for the initial registration process as it proves to the DVLA the actual bike exists, then once you get the log book back and the bike has its 41st birthday you can then apply for historical vehicles But I may be wrong☹️ I registered a US import GT 750 at the beginning of the year Never mot'd it. Just filled in a v112 excemption form and they registered it no probs Steve |
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Post by alankelly on Nov 2, 2020 22:19:47 GMT 1
Happy days then
Best wish Al
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Gee
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Post by Gee on Nov 2, 2020 23:39:01 GMT 1
Looks like I'm going to have to look into this a bit further. Guess it will be a nightmare to get an answer out of dvla.
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Post by Gee on Nov 2, 2020 23:45:45 GMT 1
Well I've just learnt something. Had a look at the v112 form online and didn't know you had to fill it out to tax your vehicle. I've also got a 1970 Lambretta, just insured it and used it, didn't mot or tax it. Looks like I should have. Doh! 😂
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Post by reedpete on Nov 2, 2020 23:59:02 GMT 1
You haven’t mentioned nova , was the nova already done when the importer brought the bike in? If not , that’s the first thing to do ASAP.
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Post by reedpete on Nov 2, 2020 23:59:25 GMT 1
Should have a nova reference number if it’s been done already
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Gee
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Post by Gee on Nov 3, 2020 11:20:32 GMT 1
Yes Peter I've got the nova 👍
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Post by Gee on Nov 3, 2020 11:32:37 GMT 1
When you register the bike do dvla send all the original documentation back?
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Post by midlifecrisisrd on Nov 3, 2020 11:46:29 GMT 1
When you register the bike do dvla send all the original documentation back? They will send you ID and proof of address along with any receipts etc but not the old reg doc if you have one so best photo copy it before sending. Steve |
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Post by Gee on Nov 3, 2020 12:14:28 GMT 1
When you register the bike do dvla send all the original documentation back? They will send you ID and proof of address along with any receipts etc but not the old reg doc if you have one so best photo copy it before sending. Steve Cheers Steve, Shame that cos it would be nice to keep it with the bike. It's a 2 owner registered in June 1980 with a frame number just less than 3000 so really early bike. Gee |
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Post by midlifecrisisrd on Nov 3, 2020 14:18:01 GMT 1
They will send you ID and proof of address along with any receipts etc but not the old reg doc if you have one so best photo copy it before sending. Steve Cheers Steve, Shame that cos it would be nice to keep it with the bike. It's a 2 owner registered in June 1980 with a frame number just less than 3000 so really early bike. Gee You still can keep it, just don't send it 🤣 Will cost you £30 for a dating letter to send instead mind Steve |
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Post by Gee on Nov 3, 2020 19:48:39 GMT 1
Cheers Steve, Shame that cos it would be nice to keep it with the bike. It's a 2 owner registered in June 1980 with a frame number just less than 3000 so really early bike. Gee You still can keep it, just don't send it 🤣 Will cost you £30 for a dating letter to send instead mind Steve Might actually be worth doing that, I'll see how good it photocopies first. Who does dating certificates? |
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Post by midlifecrisisrd on Nov 3, 2020 19:57:04 GMT 1
Aircooled RD club
Steve
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Post by oldelsieboy on Nov 3, 2020 20:04:38 GMT 1
You still can keep it, just don't send it 🤣 Will cost you £30 for a dating letter to send instead mind Steve Might actually be worth doing that, I'll see how good it photocopies first. Who does dating certificates? If you decide to use a dating certificate make sure to send a covering letter stating why you do not have the original reg docs otherwise your registration request is likely to be refused, ask me how I know  Paul Dawkins can supply a dating certificate via his website. www.motorbikeregistrations.co.uk/OEB |
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Post by midlifecrisisrd on Nov 3, 2020 20:14:08 GMT 1
Might actually be worth doing that, I'll see how good it photocopies first. Who does dating certificates? If you decide to use a dating certificate make sure to send a covering letter stating why you do not have the original reg docs otherwise your regurgitation request is likely to be refused, ask me how I know [img alt=" " class="smile" style="max-width:100%;" src="//storage.proboards.com/forum/images/smiley/embarrassed.png"] Paul Dawkins can supply a dating certificate via his website. www.motorbikeregistrations.co.uk/OEB Me too Sent a request in with a covering letter saying I had enclosed a dating letter as I did not have a non UK reg doc They rejected it asking why there wasn't one I sent it back saying I didn't have one V5 issued WTF |
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Post by allspeeds on Nov 3, 2020 21:14:43 GMT 1
I sent one in with the Austrian documents that had everything on them, Yamaha issued from new with the exact date of first registration and all the old keepers names etc all Austrian Gov stamped, I really, really didn't want to part with it but I needed to get it registered , idiots at Dvla sent it back ,saying I needed proof of first registration in English FFS,so I got a dating letter from Paul Dawkins, got it registered and got to keep the Austrian log book which was a bonus, only thing is they put RD350r on the uk log book and its a 1983 31k but I can't be arsed to change it.
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Post by midlifecrisisrd on Nov 3, 2020 21:53:31 GMT 1
I sent one in with the Austrian documents that had everything on them, Yamaha issued from new with the exact date of first registration and all the old keepers names etc all Austrian Gov stamped, I really, really didn't want to part with it but I needed to get it registered , idiots at Dvla sent it back ,saying I needed proof of first registration in English FFS,so I got a dating letter from Paul Dawkins, got it registered and got to keep the Austrian log book which was a bonus, only thing is they put RD350r on the uk log book and its a 1983 31k but I can't be arsed to change it. That is hilarious I've sent in German, Swiss and Austrian and all were fine in non English I really think either half of them don't have a clue or they have to reject so many first time for any ridiculous reason Another one of mine said I hadn't shown proof of ownership despite sending the VAT receipt from the importer. Only when I sent the card receipt to prove I actually paid for it kept them happy Steve |
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Post by Gunny on Nov 3, 2020 22:22:41 GMT 1
Ohh the card receipts .. Them that Mrs McShane shall never see
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Post by mangocrazy on Nov 3, 2020 22:22:44 GMT 1
They will send you ID and proof of address along with any receipts etc but not the old reg doc if you have one so best photo copy it before sending. Steve Cheers Steve, Shame that cos it would be nice to keep it with the bike. It's a 2 owner registered in June 1980 with a frame number just less than 3000 so really early bike. Gee First registered June 1980? The UK didn't get its first shipment of 4L0 until August 1980. Did Germany get theirs earlier? The UK only had 4L1 (250LC) in June 1980. |
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Post by midlifecrisisrd on Nov 3, 2020 22:35:59 GMT 1
Ohh the card receipts .. Them that Mrs McShane shall never see Shhh! She'll hear you 🤣 Steve |
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Post by Gee on Nov 3, 2020 23:01:39 GMT 1
Ohh the card receipts .. Them that Mrs McShane shall never see 😂😂 |
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Post by Gee on Nov 3, 2020 23:06:19 GMT 1
Cheers Steve, Shame that cos it would be nice to keep it with the bike. It's a 2 owner registered in June 1980 with a frame number just less than 3000 so really early bike. Gee First registered June 1980? The UK didn't get its first shipment of 4L0 until August 1980. Did Germany get theirs earlier? The UK only had 4L1 (250LC) in June 1980. I'm not sure but that's what it says on the German logbook, I'm not at home now but I think it is 5th June 1980. Matching numbers 4l00029** |
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Post by mangocrazy on Nov 3, 2020 23:32:02 GMT 1
My 4L0 (registered August 1980) had engine/frame numbers 4L00031**, so that tallies. Really annoyed if the Hun got the 350 LC earlier than us...  |
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