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Post by kernow on Jun 7, 2020 18:07:36 GMT 1
I was hoping to have had the R1-Z on the road but the Coronavirus has slowed things, but given the grief inflicted on so many folks....
So I,m close but not quite time for the cigar. I have put on smaller led indicators with inline resistors however each side lights up but remain constant / no flash, I did try another set of resistors from another bike that work so I have ruled out them. Given that they worked before with bulb type indicators I assume there is something amiss with relay unit, but what and how to amend is where I tap out. Looking under the seat there is a sealed unit with 4 x wires going to a plug and 1 x brown separate wire could this be the relay I can,t find much else. I could of course buy a set of bulb type indicators as before.....I,m not putting on the originals as they are carbon fibre look-alikes and not for me.
Any advise would be most welcome
Bry
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Post by stasky on Jun 7, 2020 19:04:13 GMT 1
u need to use a led flasher relay,u dont need resisters at each indicator(these get hot),but u will need inline diodes going to the idiot light for it all to work,just done my ypvs,and google is your friend,if u have 2 idiot light indicator,i believe u can use led bulbs in the dash,if u have 1 idiot light for indicators u need 2 diodes(well, i did for a ypvs)
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Post by rich on Jun 7, 2020 23:11:39 GMT 1
Yep, as Stasky said the LED indicators don't draw enough current to make the standard relay work so you need a 2 pin electronic one to make it work. Also on the standard setup the single idiot light is connected across the left and right lives to the indicators and earths itself through the opposite side so that won't work either. You will need a couple of diodes in series from each indicator live and a dedicated earth from the idiot light.
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Post by kernow on Jun 8, 2020 20:40:53 GMT 1
Thanks very much for the replies. Looking under the seat there is a sealed unit with 4 x wires going to a plug and 1 x brown separate wire could this be the relay I can,t find much else.
Thanks
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Post by rich on Jun 8, 2020 20:58:56 GMT 1
Yeah, that sounds like it. What colour are the other wires going to the unit?
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Post by kernow on Jun 8, 2020 21:09:06 GMT 1
Thanks rich. I will have a look tomorrow the bikes at the back of the garage. I ,m pretty crap at electrics so hence the questions
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Post by kernow on Jun 9, 2020 18:28:59 GMT 1
Under the seat the sealed unit has 5 x wires, 4 x going to a plug (1 x black, 1 x dark blue, 1 x light blue and 1 x blue and white) and 1 x brown separate wire could this be the relay.
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Post by stasky on Jun 9, 2020 20:03:42 GMT 1
Under the seat the sealed unit has 5 x wires, 4 x going to a plug (1 x black, 1 x dark blue, 1 x light blue and 1 x blue and white) and 1 x brown separate wire could this be the relay. no,thats the sidestand relay,indicator relay has 3 or 2 wires |
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Post by stasky on Jun 9, 2020 20:08:01 GMT 1
im not familiar with the r1z,dont u have a manual of some sort,ypvs indicator relays are under the fuel tank
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Post by kernow on Jun 9, 2020 20:12:42 GMT 1
I don,t have a manual, not sure if ones available given its a Japanese market bike, but I will have another look around for the relay tomorrow, thanks for your help
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Post by midlifecrisisrd on Jun 9, 2020 21:52:26 GMT 1
I reckon it will be a 2 wire job
Some jap only stuff had no self cancel
Steve
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Post by kernow on Jun 10, 2020 18:08:00 GMT 1
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Post by rich on Jun 10, 2020 18:20:33 GMT 1
No value, should just be a 2 pin flasher relay for LED indicators
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Post by stasky on Jun 10, 2020 20:00:01 GMT 1
No value, should just be a 2 pin flasher relay for LED indicators dont u mean 3 pin flaser relay rich,,,lol, its a 3 pin he has |
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Post by rich on Jun 10, 2020 20:53:52 GMT 1
No value, should just be a 2 pin flasher relay for LED indicators dont u mean 3 pin flaser relay rich,,,lol, its a 3 pin he has ooops, sorry yes 3 pin! |
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Post by kernow on Jun 10, 2020 21:16:43 GMT 1
Thanks for the info i shall order said relay. Hopefully mot next week. Should add some photos to the forum too…….just gotta work out how.
Thanks again
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Post by kernow on Jun 13, 2020 19:04:30 GMT 1
Good news. I wired in the diode kit..... link above.... which was really easy, the kit came with clear instructions and a diagram. The 3 pin relay arrived today, installed and hey presto we have indicators that work. One good thing apart from the working indicators was by chasing through for the issues I have a much better understanding of the electrics as a whole and where relays etc live. Now hopefully an MOT next week and some photos on the forum.
Then it will be time to refit the F2 fairing and get her to MOT.
Thanks for the great advice its appreciated
Bry
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Post by rich on Jun 13, 2020 19:23:03 GMT 1
Good news. I wired in the diode kit..... link above.... which was really easy, the kit came with clear instructions and a diagram. The 3 pin relay arrived today, installed and hey presto we have indicators that work. One good thing apart from the working indicators was by chasing through for the issues I have a much better understanding of the electrics as a whole and where relays etc live. Now hopefully an MOT next week and some photos on the forum. Then it will be time to refit the F2 fairing and get her to MOT. Thanks for the great advice its appreciated Bry Result  |
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Post by LC_BOTT on Jun 13, 2020 21:32:29 GMT 1
Glad the fix worked, on my list of 'to do' as well, are you fitting the F2 fairings to an R1-Z, or did I misread that??
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Post by kernow on Jun 14, 2020 10:23:58 GMT 1
Glad the fix worked, on my list of 'to do' as well, are you fitting the F2 fairings to an R1-Z, or did I misread that?? No sorry, my poor wording. I have an F2 also, done quite a bit of work, engine, respray etc hopefully get the fairing on and mot soon. I have test rode it and goes well. |
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