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Post by petenofear on Mar 2, 2020 20:56:21 GMT 1
Been offered a set of microns for my F2 that I would prefer over Gibson’s,
but was aware Gibson’s ok on standard set up ,
will I need to re jet carbs for the microns , only want for the look and sound not more power
thanks pete
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Post by midlifecrisisrd on Mar 2, 2020 21:05:09 GMT 1
I got rid of mine back in the day and fitted Allspeeds
Top end was good but revved to the moon
Lost bottom end and had a massive stutter at 5.5k that it wouldn't pull through
Mine was upjetted by 10 on the main
Some will say no need to upset but a good few have regretted that after melting pistons on long high speed runs
Steve
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Post by midlifecrisisrd on Mar 2, 2020 21:06:44 GMT 1
Oh, and I think they hang too low on a ypvs
Its like they are just lc pipes they fitted a longer hanger bracket to
Steve
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Post by petenofear on Mar 2, 2020 21:10:36 GMT 1
Thanks Steve
These are not cheap so u sure what to do , I really want some but if it’s going to pop ,(I will be flat out lol)
I best of keeping standard,
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Post by petenofear on Mar 2, 2020 21:13:26 GMT 1
There on a mates of a mates bike and I like the look of how they are fitted ,they don’t look to low and bracket looks fine
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Post by allspeeds on Mar 3, 2020 19:15:28 GMT 1
Unless they are the early small cans they look crap unless you re-fabricate them ,they are lower and less swept than the standard pipes.
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Post by jon on Mar 3, 2020 19:37:20 GMT 1
I had an F2 25 years ago that had standard carbs and jets (from memory) that I fitted a brand new pair of Microns to. Remember driving to Stan Stevens in a MK1 fiesta, looking at them hanging on his shop wall then buying them. Did loads of miles on that. Just finished another and got exactly the same Microns on it. however this one has 31k carbs on (as I really like them) so probably richer than the PJ ones? They do hang low, but I love the deep muffled sound. Some pipes I find too loud. Here’s a pic:  Jon |
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Post by petenofear on Mar 3, 2020 21:55:23 GMT 1
I had an F2 25 years ago that had standard carbs and jets (from memory) that I fitted a brand new pair of Microns to. Remember driving to Stan Stevens in a MK1 fiesta, looking at them hanging on his shop wall then buying them. Did loads of miles on that. Just finished another and got exactly the same Microns on it. however this one has 31k carbs on (as I really like them) so probably richer than the PJ ones? They do hang low, but I love the deep muffled sound. Some pipes I find too loud. Here’s a pic: Jon Look fine to me thanks |
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Post by allspeeds on Mar 3, 2020 22:36:10 GMT 1
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Post by Yogi on Mar 3, 2020 22:40:33 GMT 1
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Post by allspeeds on Mar 3, 2020 22:47:25 GMT 1
Thanks Yogi here's another one, its my Lc with Nikkons proper nice swept angle on the pipes, .https:// flic.kr/p/2iAmiJV
can't do this flickr thing.
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Post by Yogi on Mar 3, 2020 22:53:39 GMT 1
Got a really nice set on the old shitter I bought last year  Matt 🧸 |
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Post by mak595 on Mar 3, 2020 23:08:34 GMT 1
Microns on my 31k, i've got the small cans but the guy i bought it off made some longer (quieter) cans, ive jetted up one size to 250 mains after Dave W's advice but not had it out since fitting them, weather been soooo shit  Sounds ace but not too loud  P1020942 P1020943 |
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Post by mellow on Mar 3, 2020 23:46:27 GMT 1
I had microns, which i sold to jon  They do sit lower at the rear. I bought a set of TSA pipes. They make a nicer noise and a bit better performance  |
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Post by bare on Mar 6, 2020 1:14:53 GMT 1
Hmm... Early ..Codnor Microns.. Bean can ones.. were Good.. Surprising power, No Rejettings, Zero Stutter.
BUT those were of internal stinger design.
Arguably a higher perf setup than external stingers.... when done well.
Really doesn't look like the later versions, with the big Cans, bothered to redesign the chambers after pulling out the internal stingers.
Likely Too much work (New dies) and likely the assumption that the proles wouldn't notice (and few did).
AS for fit: ALL microns fit poorly IMO. Pick a reason that pleases.
Took a removal redesign and relocation of the hangers on MY Condor Microns to get then to Fit My lc.
..Now the header sliders actually move under rpm/loads :-) Just like Real expansion chambers,
the cans fit tightly and contact/touch Nothing on the bike.
Can't fit a centre stand tho :-) Nothings perfect.
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Post by jon on Mar 7, 2020 10:59:53 GMT 1
Hmm... Early ..Codnor Microns.. Bean can ones.. were Good.. Surprising power, No Rejettings, Zero Stutter. BUT those were of internal stinger design. Arguably a higher perf setup than external stingers.... when done well. Really doesn't look like the later versions, with the big Cans, bothered to redesign the chambers after pulling out the internal stingers. Likely Too much work (New dies) and likely the assumption that the proles wouldn't notice (and few did). AS for fit: ALL microns fit poorly IMO. Pick a reason that pleases. Took a removal redesign and relocation of the hangers on MY Condor Microns to get then to Fit My lc. ..Now the header sliders actually move under rpm/loads :-) Just like Real expansion chambers, the cans fit tightly and contact/touch Nothing on the bike. Can't fit a centre stand tho :-) Nothings perfect. They didn’t pull out the internal stingers, they simply made them part of the bolt on end cans. There the longest I’ve seen. I thought an internal stinger was at optimum half way down the reverse cone, but these must be at least 10” long from memory? Jon |
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Post by badger69 on Aug 18, 2020 9:51:27 GMT 1
Hi I have a lc 250 with microns, should they be solid because I have a small amount of movement , but I don't won't to do them too tight and thread the bolts, sorry I don't have what is needed to add photo on here, thanks.
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Post by midlifecrisisrd on Aug 18, 2020 11:15:17 GMT 1
In my experience they wobble quite a bit
Had them back in the day and they were so slack they spewed black crap at the headers as they wobbled
About 8 years ago I was building a hybrid and found a NOS set
Fitted them and again very wobbly so removed them without even starting the bike and sold them on
Steve
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Post by badger69 on Aug 31, 2020 10:20:12 GMT 1
In my experience they wobble quite a bit Had them back in the day and they were so slack they spewed black crap at the headers as they wobbled About 8 years ago I was building a hybrid and found a NOS set Fitted them and again very wobbly so removed them without even starting the bike and sold them on Steve Thanks Steve , I thought it might be a fitting issue, keep safe . |
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