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Post by headcoats on Feb 5, 2020 20:43:37 GMT 1
4L0 German import with speedblock colours finished at £7700 on fleabay
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Post by earthman on Feb 5, 2020 21:06:58 GMT 1
It may have finished at that figure but was the transaction actually completed I wonder? Maybe it will be relisted again??
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Post by veg on Feb 5, 2020 22:58:43 GMT 1
Import them yourself.
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Post by shaunthe2nd on Feb 5, 2020 23:11:34 GMT 1
The cost of the import is one thing, the cost of a full restoration is another. Last 2 standard LC's I have spent £4k to £4.5k on the resto, without my labour cost circa 250-300 hours each. Add that to the cost of the bike and you can see why people are paying that sort of money, especially if they can't or don't want to do the restoration themselves.
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Post by earthman on Feb 6, 2020 8:48:38 GMT 1
It all seems a bit mad to me, like with restoring ANY old vehicle, only do it for the love/enjoyment of using/keeping the thing afterwards.
The selling on/trying to make money from them aspect seems risky to me.
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Post by icarus001 on Feb 6, 2020 8:58:28 GMT 1
I noticed that prices had moved again, I keep an eye on LC prices because I've had a YPVS engine on the shelf for ages and I did fancy dropping it into an LC 250/350 and didn't want to put it in my restored LC. But prices seems to have jumped again.
I think this time if they keep climbing I might sell up at some point before the bubble bursts. Getting smashed in court for speeding put me right off riding my LC, the roads are crap and there is always some scumbag in a camera van on a country lane waiting to take your license off you. I have more fun on my pre-war classics without having to worry about my license.
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Post by chrisg on Feb 6, 2020 19:48:09 GMT 1
Classic scams are when you are out bid by his mate (obviously on your max. bid) and then you get an email telling you that he has defaulted and you are lucky to get a 2nd chance.
There are bargains out there, you just have to keep watching. Took me nearly 6 months to find my 350lc.
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Post by jon on Feb 9, 2020 10:35:49 GMT 1
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Post by veg on Feb 9, 2020 10:45:09 GMT 1
A fool and his money are soon parted. Someone with more money than sense, will buy it , we are generally better off at 50 than when we were 20 consequently someone wishing to relive their youth or more likely someone lusting after an icon will snap it up and probably never use it.
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Post by earthman on Feb 9, 2020 10:46:43 GMT 1
Just had a look at his website, majority of bikes way over priced if you ask me, he does have an RD250 LC for half that price though, that maybe more like it to some??
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Post by icarus001 on Feb 9, 2020 14:14:12 GMT 1
Looks tidy and he has a nice Z1 on there, but as stated the money he wants for them is crackers. Mind you, I remember not so many years ago seeing nice original N1/F1s advertised at £6k and laughing saying never in a million years, but they got there eventually. I have a nice powervalve engine for sale - £6k to the right mug off ebay
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Post by iwantalc on Feb 9, 2020 19:07:32 GMT 1
to be honest when all us 50 something year olds are dead the 350lc will die with us
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Post by earthman on Feb 9, 2020 19:10:23 GMT 1
to be honest when all us 50 something year olds are dead the 350lc will die with us That's my thoughts too.
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Post by veg on Feb 9, 2020 19:42:02 GMT 1
You can see it in the price of British bikes they got stupid a few years ago, and still are for certain bikes eg broughs, Vincent etc but the days of the £15-20k bonneville are over as those who lusted after their youth are snuffing it, I speak with experience my old man pretty much had bikes until he was 70 and owned lots of bonneville from 1959 onwards as well as others, he’s dead these blokes are upwards of mid 70’s Most of us on here are what 50 plus with the odd exception, stands to reason. That’s why I laugh when people talk of investment the people buying them are closer to death than birth just bloody buy it and enjoy it. There are only 2 certainties in life , death and nurses.
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Post by looey on Feb 9, 2020 19:48:08 GMT 1
There are only 2 certainties in life , death and nurses. 3 surely, you missed paying Tax ?
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Post by veg on Feb 9, 2020 19:56:21 GMT 1
Nope not if you’re rich enough, therefore only 2 certainties
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Post by steve h on Feb 9, 2020 20:36:45 GMT 1
Nurses?.. Only if you can afford them.. "Investment"?.. Makes me laugh!! I can hear the conversations at funerals... "He was minted.. loaded he was! and a shed full of bikes which must be worth a small fortune"
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Post by midlifecrisisrd on Feb 9, 2020 20:37:38 GMT 1
I don't think they will go back to being worth nothing but I agree with the thought that in 10 to 20 years there will be no one left who either grew up with them or have a personal connection with them
I know the Brough's etc are worth an absolute fortune and all their original owners are gone but the problem with Lc's is their popularity back then and indeed more so now there has been a resurrection
Not only have the remaining ones left been refurbished but we have bought a load of the European ones and restored them
There are hundreds of minters around now
Steve
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Post by veg on Feb 9, 2020 20:42:45 GMT 1
Thats the problem isn't it, brought and vincents etc are valuable due to their rarity, Lc's are ten a penny today there are probably as many about now as there was in their heyday, difference being they are being ridden by old farts and not teenagers they will always have a value but its unlikely to be maintained at the levels they are then factor into the yoof of today are more interested in other things than motorcycles and the imminent banning of oil/petrol and certainly stinking strokers. A retirement plan i don't think so.
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Post by donkeychomp on Feb 10, 2020 0:27:24 GMT 1
Lads...let's face it. We were all born in a time when LCs and homicidal riding was the norm, there were no speed cameras and every day lasted a month. Box Hill was a weekly event and doing a ton down Deceptive Bends was a must. We are the last of our generation to have enjoyed all this. And now we still have the bikes of our youth, sadly though there are fewer and fewer roads where some truly mad biking can be enjoyed. (I now only know of one). By the time petrol is banned and everyone will be using hover cars or whatever we'll all be long gone or past caring. But let's still enjoy the bikes as long as we can!
I plan on dying in a 110mph fireball...that or being chased by a jealous husband (when I'm 90).
Alex
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Post by looey on Feb 10, 2020 10:57:48 GMT 1
That's why we moved to the Isle of Man. Most of the year about 60% of the roads have no speed limits (including from Ramsey Hairpin all the way to Hillberry), so you can go for a proper blast without the fear of Jail time.
It's only a matter of time before the Eco snowflakes over there stop it by introducing Island wide speed limits (they are trying and will succeed at some point) but until then I will enjoy it.
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Post by chrisg on Feb 12, 2020 19:16:15 GMT 1
Dont think its worth that. I think they are chancers. Original tyre paint!!! they look like Avon roadrider tyres. With NOS tyre paint?
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Post by copper99 on Feb 12, 2020 19:22:10 GMT 1
All sounds very much like we should be riding them more, rather than fussing over them then?....
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Post by tony2stroke on Feb 12, 2020 19:56:01 GMT 1
Original tyre paint!!! That got me too
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Post by markhoopy on Feb 12, 2020 20:21:39 GMT 1
Wonder how many years from now before two strokes are effectively banned from the roads through taxation anyway?
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Post by earthman on Feb 12, 2020 20:52:06 GMT 1
All sounds very much like we should be riding them more, rather than fussing over them then?.... I totally agree with that. I can appreciate all sorts of vehicles that are in A1 condition at shows etc but for me there's no real point in owning any vehicle that you maybe too scared to ride/drive at the end of the day.
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Post by midlifecrisisrd on Feb 12, 2020 21:18:29 GMT 1
Hoping I'll get to actually use mine this year
Not been fit enough the last few years but feeling a bit better so fingers crossed
I've never been an all weather guy so getting it dirty ain't a worry lol
As for being frightened to use them nah!
Binned my 2400 mile Fazer on a track night
Threw my 1900 mile r1 up the road too
Scratching them was the last thing on my mind 🤕
Steve
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Post by steve h on Feb 12, 2020 22:43:44 GMT 1
Wonder how many years from now before two strokes are effectively banned from the roads through taxation anyway? Maybe sooner than later. It will be an opportunity for winning votes. And it will be met with the wringing of hands and cheering (Only opposition will be the "haters")
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Post by looey on Feb 16, 2020 13:24:14 GMT 1
It may have finished at that figure but was the transaction actually completed I wonder? Maybe it will be relisted again?? You were right, the sale didn't go thorough, it's up for sale again
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Post by Deleted on Feb 16, 2020 14:56:32 GMT 1
I bought my two for the enjoyment of doing things I'd never achieved in my life before, I'm no mechanic, panel beater or painter nor do I race
1 Eventually owning a RD350YPVS
2 Owning a second, an 1985 RZ350R
3 Rebuilding the RZ350R from a box of bits, its been a long haul with parts not fitting, having to order new ones that do, thanks Norbo, Jon, Steve and lots of others who's name escapes me
Removing paint doing repairs, doing new paint and learning how to put things together, mostly at the wrong time, I've taken many a thing off realising it should have gone after some other part
You live and learn and its fun, thats it for me fun and perhaps the chance to help of people on the way with bits that have come my way and not necessarily to sell the parts either
The bikes are and will be insured just in case, I doubt I'll make anything out of them, I still hope after the second hip gets done I can still ride them
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