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Post by steven on May 9, 2019 20:19:56 GMT 1
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Post by farmboy on May 9, 2019 20:26:54 GMT 1
Oh you tease, my eyes lite up thinking there was an original looking RD 500 for sale!
I have some money burning a hole................
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Post by icarus001 on May 10, 2019 1:50:51 GMT 1
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Post by JonW on May 10, 2019 2:31:06 GMT 1
Its a nice write up about the history and the fact prices have risen, but not really much of a buyers guide (which it states in the title) as there is nothing about what to look out for and how expensive it is to restore or run etc. Still what is there is nicely written and I enjoyed it.
The bike in the article has 32k miles (50k kms) and is equivalent to $30k in Aus money... wow, Ive not seen one asking that much here yet, but it could happen I guess :/
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Post by rd350rob on May 10, 2019 8:01:30 GMT 1
The same company have a YZR500 ROC for sale too.....bit steep for me though. 170BHP!! Bet it pulls good wheelies......at about 150!
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500 LC.
May 10, 2019 14:21:24 GMT 1
Post by farmboy on May 10, 2019 14:21:24 GMT 1
Seen the Fastline ad, heck thats RG500 money. Or are RG's past that now? I know a few years ago I was at the CMC 2 stroke day at Clay -cross and a RD500 and RG500 rocked up, the guy on the RG and his girlfriend on the RD, pretty cool. Not sure I'd let my missus on a Honda bog seat let alone a RD500!
Still whats my ISA earning? this will earn more , don't have any plans to spend my saving at moment. Think I'd be to scared to ride it if I damaged it.
You got me thinking now......
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500 LC.
May 10, 2019 21:47:21 GMT 1
Post by sp885 on May 10, 2019 21:47:21 GMT 1
Its a nice write up about the history and the fact prices have risen, but not really much of a buyers guide (which it states in the title) as there is nothing about what to look out for and how expensive it is to restore or run etc. Still what is there is nicely written and I enjoyed it. The bike in the article has 32k miles (50k kms) and is equivalent to $30k in Aus money... wow, Ive not seen one asking that much here yet, but it could happen I guess :/ I'm sure there was one here for sale recently Jon on Bike Sales for $25k, I just had a look but it's not there now, did you see that one? Steve
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Post by JonW on May 11, 2019 1:06:10 GMT 1
I did Steve, Im keeping a lazy eye on them now that Ive bought one to restore. One was asking 26 odd the other month, but nothing over 30k.... yet... :/
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Post by icarus001 on May 11, 2019 3:23:12 GMT 1
Every now and then a really nice one comes up and someone with the money will take a punt, but in general I think they peaked a while back, nice ones seem to drop into the £10-11.5k range and on average they've been selling for the same price in auctions for a good few years now, with the odd one getting more if it's a really nice one and the seller can wait for a buyer with the right money to come along.
I almost bought one from Fastbike a few years ago, I'd been looking at it for a while and then decided to take the plunge, but when I'd eventually set my mind to it I phoned up early in the week and it had been sold that weekend. The new owner put it on Facebook and I was talking to him, he was pleased enough but said overall the riding experience was a bit of a disappointment compared to expectations, so I thought it had probably worked out for the best and decided not to bother with one. That one was a minter with low miles and was £15k, so I don't think the price has moved much since then.
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Post by 4l04ever on May 11, 2019 10:44:35 GMT 1
I know of a mint very low miles RD500 which has had offers of £25k made, but not enough to buy it, so they do appear to have gone up.
People keep saying prices are going down, hoping everyone will lower their prices in light of this news, but it does not appear to actually be the case, as there are still no cheap 500's. I turned down a £1500 rough RD500 project over 10 years ago, which would be more like £5k+ now.
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May 11, 2019 13:21:51 GMT 1
Post by icarus001 on May 11, 2019 13:21:51 GMT 1
I know of a mint very low miles RD500 which has had offers of £25k made, but not enough to buy it, so they do appear to have gone up. People keep saying prices are going down, hoping everyone will lower their prices in light of this news, but it does not appear to actually be the case, as there are still no cheap 500's. I turned down a £1500 rough RD500 project over 10 years ago, which would be more like £5k+ now. Obviously the bloke doesn't want to sell it if he's been offered £25k and won't sell, because it wouldn't fetch more than £20k in an open auction. I don't see them selling for any more than they have for the last few years, look on ebay completed listings, the auctions don't lie. If I'm wrong then fair enough, I hope the sellers get as much as they can, I don't have an axe to grind, I'm just saying what I see.
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May 11, 2019 13:59:26 GMT 1
Post by JonW on May 11, 2019 13:59:26 GMT 1
I agree that I dont see prices shifting downwards here at all, if anything they move up year on year. Plus... here there are a lot of restored and nice survivor ones that get listed for sale, but rarely any projects.
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Post by icarus001 on May 12, 2019 2:41:16 GMT 1
I agree that I dont see prices shifting downwards here at all, if anything they move up year on year. Plus... here there are a lot of restored and nice survivor ones that get listed for sale, but rarely any projects. I don't think prices have gone down, I didn't say that at all, I just haven't seen them going up any more over the last few years. Most of the popular two strokes shot up in price at one point and a lot of people jumped on the bandwagon, you see a lot of bikes advertised as "solid investments" but I don't think so anymore. Prices have slowed now, I'm not sure any have actually gone down in value, but they're not increasing any either. I'd be very surprised if any of my bikes fetched more in an auction today than they would have done three years ago.
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Post by JonW on May 17, 2019 0:22:00 GMT 1
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Post by sbscnor on May 17, 2019 8:25:50 GMT 1
A few weeks ago I posted a pic of a NOS 500 at my local Yam dealer, I have it on good authority the owner has a standing offer of £25k for it and he has turned it down.
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May 17, 2019 12:26:21 GMT 1
Post by icarus001 on May 17, 2019 12:26:21 GMT 1
A few weeks ago I posted a pic of a NOS 500 at my local Yam dealer, I have it on good authority the owner has a standing offer of £25k for it and he has turned it down. I don't doubt your story mate, every now and then you'll get someone willing to part with big bucks if they really want something, perhaps it's an art dealer who wants an expensive ornament. The one linked to in the opening post is still for sale, and there are a few more on ebay, I'll keep an eye on them and see what they go for.
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500 LC.
May 17, 2019 13:34:14 GMT 1
Post by JonW on May 17, 2019 13:34:14 GMT 1
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500 LC.
May 17, 2019 17:42:59 GMT 1
Post by bare on May 17, 2019 17:42:59 GMT 1
Its a nice write up about the history and the fact prices have risen, but not really much of a buyers guide (which it states in the title) as there is nothing about what to look out for and how expensive it is to restore or run etc. Still what is there is nicely written and I enjoyed it. The bike in the article has 32k miles (50k kms) and is equivalent to $30k in Aus money... wow, Ive not seen one asking that much here yet, but it could happen I guess :/ Small but definitely Curious factoid: Over the years I've noticed that Many (most!) 'pristine' for sale Bikes Always! have Low 30k miles on the odo.. pretty well without exception. Coincidence? Unlikely IMO. Given that changing Odo readings takes inside of a minute when the Speedo unit is in hand.
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May 17, 2019 19:03:51 GMT 1
Post by 17again on May 17, 2019 19:03:51 GMT 1
if you bought one now for £10 to £15 would they go up much more?
feels like not so much.
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Post by JonW on May 18, 2019 1:52:55 GMT 1
Buying for investment is never a good thing imho, buy cos you want to own one etc.
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Post by icarus001 on Jun 24, 2019 3:54:45 GMT 1
A few weeks ago I posted a pic of a NOS 500 at my local Yam dealer, I have it on good authority the owner has a standing offer of £25k for it and he has turned it down. I don't doubt your story mate, every now and then you'll get someone willing to part with big bucks if they really want something, perhaps it's an art dealer who wants an expensive ornament. The one linked to in the opening post is still for sale, and there are a few more on ebay, I'll keep an eye on them and see what they go for. As predicted, the ones advertised for big money are still sitting there. In addition, there has been an absolute beauty sitting here on these pages for sale at £10,500 since May, not selling, if I was after one then I've have snapped it up, but it's still sitting there. Even really nice ones are fetching £10-11k in auctions, so you can make your own decisions about whether they're going up or down. Same with Landrover Defenders, I have one that I have spent a lot of money on and there is a lot of talk about prices shooting right up, but then when people try to sell them they're not getting anywhere near what they thought they would, most of this stuff about big money is just talk.
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Post by liffy16 on Jun 24, 2019 18:11:59 GMT 1
Tend to agree with icarus on this one in general i think prices have peeked (for now anyway) 350lc's seem to have flatened out a little or perhaps the market is a bit flooded at the moment? As for paying 10k plus for a rd500 ? think i will leave that for some other mug not that i have that sort of money, anyway unless i sell my two powervalves to fund one which is not going to happen
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Post by JonW on Jun 25, 2019 2:05:51 GMT 1
Its funny how often people suggest that those who pay an amount for something are a mug just because it seems like a lot of money. Everything has its price point, some things cost more than others, 500s cost more than LCs. Just the way it is.
The was I see it, restoring a 500 doesnt cost that much more than doing a full fairing ypvs. Same bodywork repair and paint cost, same number of tyres and brake calipers etc etc. Engine wise its like doing 2 350 engines cos of the 4 cyls and 2 cranks and 4 carbs. And yet a 500 is worth pretty much double what the 350 is when its done, more in Aus. Sure the project bike will have cost more to start with, its a rarer bike and the supply n demand sets the initial price point.
The downside with things that cost 'more' is that fewer people have the spare cash to buy one. Youre more likely to find a buyer quickly for a 350 as its a lot of bike for less money than the 500 etc
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Post by earthman on Jun 25, 2019 7:28:27 GMT 1
Like with my 350, if there's a personal/emotional reason to buy a particular bike, then 10k is what you gotta pay I guess.
Let's face it, the 350 isn't really worth 5k to many either.
If you are buying a bike to use/ride then both sums would get you something newer with better handling etc etc.
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Jun 25, 2019 15:06:42 GMT 1
Post by Deleted on Jun 25, 2019 15:06:42 GMT 1
The first one you posted Jon, has sold
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Post by JonW on Jun 26, 2019 0:45:03 GMT 1
The first one you posted Jon, has sold Wow, there ya go... once a price point has been breached it doesnt take long for others to follow...
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Post by icarus001 on Jun 26, 2019 3:59:44 GMT 1
Its funny how often people suggest that those who pay an amount for something are a mug just because it seems like a lot of money. Everything has its price point, some things cost more than others, 500s cost more than LCs. Just the way it is. I'm not suggesting anyone is a mug, it's their money and their choice - I paid what some people consider to be way over the odds for a classic bike that was exactly what I wanted and the only one on the market that I'd seen that year, the bloke wanted a certain amount and I either paid it or didn't buy it, so I paid up. The only thing that niggles me is the marketing hype where everyone talks up prices so it changes the nature of things and the bikes become nothing more than expensive ornaments.
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Post by JonW on Jun 26, 2019 5:28:03 GMT 1
I hear you but I dunno really that I hear too much chatter talking up the 500, sure some sellers talk about how much theyve spent and how nice they are, but thats the same with any vehicle sale really. I think we all know that a well ridden 350 is as fast across country as a 500 and that they are not the GP-bike-for-the-road that Yamaha told us they were. But they were posters on our walls and talked about in quiet tones and then the subject of our dreams when young, so like so many things of limited supply they cost quite a bit to buy. What I have noticed is that you will struggle to buy a project cheap enough to do up and then sell and make any money. most projects plus the work plus parts sourcing will not only eat a year of your life but also mean you may as well just buy one thats nice to start with and be riding it this weekend.
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Post by earthman on Jun 26, 2019 6:48:16 GMT 1
Going by the lack of seeing one on the road around my way back in the day, the 500 were never that popular/sold well? I saw loads more RG500's in comparison, that were the fastest/best handling 2 stroke at the time it seemed.
So I guess that rarity plays a big part in pushing the price high on this bike too.
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Post by JonW on Jun 26, 2019 9:59:49 GMT 1
Yamaha limited the production in the beginning and then i think lost interest. The RG was arguably better and cheaper I think.
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