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Post by muttsnuts on Mar 24, 2019 22:03:06 GMT 1
nope, somebody I know bought it, put the word out earlier today and its gone, not very often any of my bikes come up for sale, so doesn't surprise me, gotta be quick to buy one of mine normally as I don't advertise them very often, most are bought without ever being advertised, the X7 the other week was a one off
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Post by Deleted on Mar 24, 2019 22:05:49 GMT 1
nope, somebody I know bought it, That narrows it down to everybody on here then !!!!!
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Post by muttsnuts on Mar 24, 2019 22:08:04 GMT 1
nope, somebody I know bought it, That narrows it down to everybody on here then !!!!! LOL !! you ain't wrong on that score Phil ! - it didn't even make it to facebook, I only finished servicing and the dyno run around 6pm tonight, not cleaned it yet, better get me finger out and do that.....
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Post by shaunthe2nd on Mar 24, 2019 22:12:20 GMT 1
You do! ;-)
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Post by veg on Mar 24, 2019 22:31:51 GMT 1
A buyer 😁
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Post by donkeychomp on Mar 24, 2019 23:30:04 GMT 1
Did you mean a Mito with a 350 YPVS conversion? Big enough bike and I would think if one's been done properly it'll cost more than a hybrid LC. Well, certainly more than 6K lol
Alex
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Post by dusty350 on Mar 25, 2019 0:51:47 GMT 1
I would love the Rgv or any race rep in my garage, but the riding position would put me in traction fairly quickly. I love building more than riding now, thanks to arthritis in my back, plus the roads around here are so crap that riding anywhere is like navigating a minefield ! It's been said before, but Hybrids have a sub culture all of their own, and seem as popular as standard builds, and certainly make good money when sold. Mutts' was an absolute bargain at that price. I guess I could have fitted the original Fzr front wheel in mine - it's kept the yokes so should bolt in no problem, but I quite liked the fact it kept Lc wheels, and someone went out of their way to do the mods to retain them - that's why I called it the semi hybrid ! Likewise, a 2ma rear wheel in the Lc swingarm and you unlock the potential of modern rubber, and all relatively cheaply compared to Rgv parts. I did buy enough Rgv parts last year for a potential future project.. If it helps, this is what I paid; Forks - £270 Yokes - £125 Front wheel with good discs - £175 Speedo drive and wheel spindle - £40 Brand new rear wheel - £200 Brand new sprocket carrier - £113 I would need to add bars, brake calipers x 3,rear caliper carrier, front mudguard, a swingarm (Metmachex is £700, and Rgv arm is around £200 plus the conversion costs), new tyres/bearings/rear disc/paint or powdercoat, fork rebuild, caliper refurb etc -it's a 2k+ conversion if you go Rgv Yes, there are cheaper conversions but not by much if you apply the same approach. I think Lc's and Pv's really lend themselves to becoming hybrids - they are such good looking bikes to start with that hybrid parts only seem to enhance the aesthetics, plus add better brakes, stiffer forks , improved suspension and modern rubber. Dusty
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Post by Deleted on Mar 25, 2019 1:57:46 GMT 1
I reckon Mutts was a bargain. You ain't gonna get much for 6K these days... not without having to spend a heap more on it.
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Post by JonW on Mar 25, 2019 8:35:25 GMT 1
I agree with whats been said, 6k was a steal. Something the OP has noticed but may not have twigged yet, Hybrids are built to the owner's spec. That means my hybrid (see the link below if you want to see it) probably wont appeal to you either. They will (and should!) be a few things you (and everyone else) would change on these bikes, Hybrids are an expression of personality - the ultimate of what you wanted to do with an LC ever since you first saw one. We may have started with coloured grips and a tyre pen, but have had a few more ideas and budget since then...
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Post by veg on Mar 25, 2019 8:44:04 GMT 1
Baja grips 😀👍
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Post by dusty350 on Mar 25, 2019 8:55:25 GMT 1
I agree Jon, they are all different, which is part of the appeal. Very much "Marmite " bikes to some I know, but as you say, the Lc's were being modded as soon as they came out, and we've been doing it for nearly 40 years !! And a good hybrid can now make the same money that the original, nut and bolt correct standard Lc's make, which proves the popularity and strength of following for them. Dusty
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Post by headcoats on Mar 25, 2019 10:39:50 GMT 1
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Post by fozzy17 on Mar 25, 2019 12:16:53 GMT 1
i am in the middle of finishing my hybed bbased on a ypvs N1 with a rgv vj22 running gear, i need to wire the gps clocks paint and fit the pwk carbs running stock carbs atm but 5k wont buy it, i would lose money, and there are hundreds of hours going into building never sat down and counted the money yet, dont think i will.
i would buy dustys bike, he builds some lovely stuff, maybe tempted myself
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Post by JonW on Mar 25, 2019 12:38:29 GMT 1
I agree Fozzy, the hours Ive just stood and looked, held up parts and thought about the fitment, googled to find suppliers and parts or services to buy/make/build parts or actually worked on those parts and their fitting etc... Ok, yes, those hours I knew I would never get back, but that's what makes my bike 'mine'. Some bits of my bike I did and theyve still not been copied, that either means I did it so badly that people dont want to be associated or I did something no one has yet worked out how to do, only the beholder can decide which of those it is! But, that means I may finally have a bike that will be actually different from the others at the chippy on a Friday night lol (I so wish we all still did that) As for value... I agree a Hybrid should be worth at least what a standard bike is, but it does depend on spec as well as the quality / builder (ie how well its done). And of course once you start going with big engines and all the parts that go with those, the value in parts to build them cannot help but drag up the sale price, but always 'so long as the buyer wants what's on offer'. And, didnt Dean do a run of mega expensive LC Hybrids with his billet parts on them a while back (still does maybe)?. That gives you an idea of what a commercial venture cites the value of a Hybrid with a big spec. Anyone buying cheaper from a well known hobbyist would be getting a bargain as theyre not paying for labour and profit. What sometimes is a bit of a shame is when you can see where a builder has scrimped on a set of parts, but perhaps that means you can use that to your advantage and do that work and put some skin in the game. This forum has some great guys on it, they continue to build really great bikes. I do agree that both Dusty and Muttsy's offerings in here are/were great buys. However, even thought I miaght one day have to sell my own Hybrid bikes I am a little conflicted around the concept of those buying a Hybrid and I touched on it before; you need to be on the same page as the builder or at least know what you want to change to make it yours. Most Hybrids I know of are almost always refereed to by the name of their original builder, not the subsequent owner. Thats fine I guess, I mean, If i buy a Picasso I want it to stay his, right? But, with our bikes, well, they just cry out to be 'yours', hence I always think a bloke should build his own etc. Dave had a sticker on his bike, 'Built not bought'...While I understand that not everyone has the skills, time or inclination I feel that is food for thought.
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Post by looey on Mar 25, 2019 13:13:39 GMT 1
I agree totally that Dusty is a top man to buy a bike from that he's built, the attention to detail and getting all things right on the build is clearly evident in his build threads. You're only dilemma would be, like others have said, personalising to your tastes (plenty of builders to do that if you can't). I've bought a couple of Hybrids in the past that were so badly bodged in places, I almost lost the will to live putting them right, one I gave up and moved it on (being totally honest with the buyer what I knew). Just don't buy with rose tinted glasses, just b'cos it's closer to the look you want. Buy wrong and you'll soon regret it. What's the saying ? "buy in haste, repent at leisure" ? lol. Buy wrong and expect to find things like bodged front calipers that have been sprayed to look good but have knackered/binding seals, butchered pistons and 3 different makes of brake pads across the 2 front calipers, engine mount bolts too short and catching on 2 threads, exhaust hanger bolts so long they're almost touching the rear wheel, lots of stuff like that (I could go on). Better off with a brilliantly built bike that needs some mods to your taste, rather than buying a bodged money pit That was nearly a rant wasn't it ? lmao
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Post by headcoats on Mar 25, 2019 14:52:18 GMT 1
Personally I wouldn't buy one that has had the frame fecked about with
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Post by looey on Mar 25, 2019 15:17:13 GMT 1
Personally I wouldn't buy one that has had the frame fecked about with Who's done that ?
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Post by andrewm on Mar 25, 2019 20:37:52 GMT 1
Thanks for all your advice ect guys, looks like I have something sorted now.
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Post by donkeychomp on Mar 25, 2019 23:37:00 GMT 1
Bloody photof**ket. Name scrawled all over the pics now. What is wrong with them?? Alex
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Post by yamman1066 on Mar 27, 2019 10:45:03 GMT 1
so, did you buy daves muttsnuts bike ??
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Post by shaunthe2nd on Mar 27, 2019 11:58:23 GMT 1
It was me who bought mutts hybrid. Awesome bike.
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Post by tipfinchy on Mar 27, 2019 12:08:59 GMT 1
It was me who bought mutts hybrid. Awesome bike. nice one, cracking looking bike and a very fair price Mart
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Post by 0h5h1t on Mar 27, 2019 12:26:18 GMT 1
The bike Mutts sold was built by Yogi. He put that great decal on it too. "built not bought"
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Post by andrewm on Mar 27, 2019 13:16:11 GMT 1
No I ended up getting a different hybrid
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Post by horace on Mar 27, 2019 14:13:34 GMT 1
Mutts was a nice built bike but think most people prefure an lc based hybrid.
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Post by muttsnuts on Mar 27, 2019 15:11:32 GMT 1
The bike Mutts sold was built by Yogi. He put that great decal on it too. "built not bought" yep, your not wrong Karl, changed a good amount since Mstt did it, but the paintwork etc and decal was all Matt's doing
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Post by 0h5h1t on Mar 27, 2019 15:49:23 GMT 1
The bike Mutts sold was built by Yogi. He put that great decal on it too. "built not bought" yep, your not wrong Karl, changed a good amount since Mstt did it, but the paintwork etc and decal was all Matt's doing LOL, I think Matt did a whole lot more than paint and a decal.
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Post by andrewm on Mar 31, 2019 0:33:34 GMT 1
Picked this up for £5100 rgv running gear fresh build ect
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Post by JonW on Mar 31, 2019 0:49:54 GMT 1
Looks like a good buy with a bit of work still to do like airfilter(s) etc. Im not a fan of the seat tho, its about 20% bigger than the designer wanted lol. Anyway, welcome to the club, Im keen to see what you do with it to make it your own.
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Post by fozzy17 on Mar 31, 2019 6:54:41 GMT 1
agree on seat horribly in my eyes, but its a great basis for a bike to get it as you want it
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