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Post by midlifecrisisrd on Mar 21, 2019 19:31:15 GMT 1
Had the LC paint 6 months now Looked perfect at first so all stored away safely in the conservatory Its been on the bike a few weeks now and tonight was the first time I had it in the garage with the fluorescent lights on fitting the mirrors and noticed this strange patch You can feel tiny rough bits in the paint like tiny bubbles. Didn't notice them the other day in the daylight Steve  |
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Post by Norbo on Mar 21, 2019 19:46:02 GMT 1
has it got filler under neath
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Post by iwantalc on Mar 21, 2019 19:50:09 GMT 1
when 1st painted was it left in the sun ?? had this years ago with a dt tank friend sprayed it for me in his garage lovelly day so put it outside to dry quicker and pant blistered the same as yours had little indents in the paint
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Post by 3tj6 on Mar 21, 2019 20:13:16 GMT 1
Could be filler underneath having small pinholes in it , trapping air under primer after time air makes its way to surface hence small bubbles, could also have had condensation in the air line when painted causing little bubbles, does it have filler in that area? Was it bare metal before painting or over the top of old paint , sometimes old paint can react with new paint being put over the top of it?
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Post by headcoats on Mar 21, 2019 20:16:48 GMT 1
The plastic Buell tanks bubbled but was the petrol fumes leaching through the plastic itself
Like Norbo said is there a repair under that area ?
Has it only just had fuel in the new tank ?
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Post by midlifecrisisrd on Mar 21, 2019 20:18:02 GMT 1
has it got filler under neath It's one of the new tanks so never expected this Steve |
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Post by midlifecrisisrd on Mar 21, 2019 20:20:18 GMT 1
The plastic Buell tanks bubbled but was the petrol fumes leaching through the plastic itself Like Norbo said is there a repair under that area ? Has it only just had fuel in the new tank ? Fuel been in it just over a week but as said it's a new tank Steve |
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Post by midlifecrisisrd on Mar 21, 2019 20:21:45 GMT 1
I'm sure I'd have noticed it before I fitted it
Only seems since its been in the cold garage with fuel in 🤔
Steve
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Post by veg on Mar 21, 2019 20:25:26 GMT 1
Gutted for you, what’s the painter said?
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Post by 3tj6 on Mar 21, 2019 20:25:55 GMT 1
If its a new tank I would think a bit of condensation in the airline when being painted, if its water based base coat sometimes if its not fully dry you get little blisters like that cos the water has to escape upwards, if its celly base coat the same if its not fully dry before lacquering?
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Post by midlifecrisisrd on Mar 21, 2019 20:31:15 GMT 1
Gutted for you, what’s the painter said? Not spoke to them yet Its supposed to be getting collected 😡 I'll speak to them in the morning Steve |
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Post by petenofear on Mar 21, 2019 20:50:35 GMT 1
Likes like micro blister to me
You get that when there is damp in the air when painted or water in the compressor will corse this ,,
Micro blisters always come out over time from damp or water in compressors
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Post by petenofear on Mar 21, 2019 20:52:47 GMT 1
Or could be a reaction when they but the base coat
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Post by midlifecrisisrd on Mar 21, 2019 21:09:43 GMT 1
Thanks Pete
I didn't notice them 2 weeks ago when I fitted the bodywork and not last week when I put some fuel in it and ran it round the block
Only tonight but as said it was in daylight before and I wasn't looking that closely
I've emailed the company so I've at least raised the issue
Steve
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Post by 3tj6 on Mar 21, 2019 21:15:50 GMT 1
As i said , water in the airline? Base coat reaction ? Only been painting over 25 yrs?
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Post by midlifecrisisrd on Mar 21, 2019 21:22:57 GMT 1
As i said , water in the airline? Base coat reaction ? Only been painting over 25 yrs? Cheers Have you seen it take this long to come out before? Steve |
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Post by 3tj6 on Mar 21, 2019 21:35:24 GMT 1
It can take a week or 6 months, just one of those things with paint work, thats why most proper car restoration bodyshops take a long time doing paint work, filler sinks over time , primer sinks over time , moisture comes out over time, the longer you leave something the better the end result, to me it looks like a bit of water in the airline, it happens in even the best bodyshops,
It shouldn’t take too much to remedy
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Post by kostas on Mar 21, 2019 22:48:12 GMT 1
Steve, I had the same happen on my bike months after being painted.
Problem is exactly what fellow 3tj6 describes. He is right on the money on this one.
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Post by midlifecrisisrd on Mar 22, 2019 12:31:52 GMT 1
They have said to bring it back and they will sort it
Steve
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Post by steeley on Mar 22, 2019 13:01:27 GMT 1
Bugger . Yes either water or solvent blister .Should be an easy fix for a professional .
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Post by petenofear on Mar 22, 2019 17:42:11 GMT 1
They have said to bring it back and they will sort it Steve That’s good news but a bit of a pain |
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Post by petenofear on Mar 22, 2019 17:44:23 GMT 1
Bugger . Yes either water or solvent blister .Should be an easy fix for a professional . No that easy as it’s base and lacquer probably flat completely back and start again |
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Post by midlifecrisisrd on Mar 22, 2019 17:59:39 GMT 1
Bugger . Yes either water or solvent blister .Should be an easy fix for a professional . No that easy as it’s base and lacquer probably flat completely back and start again That's my worry, weeks of delay as decals will need ordered The bike owner has agreed to come to mine, see and ride the bike then I'll remove the tank for repair and he'll take the bike away I'll return the tank to him when sorted Need a loan of a tank really Steve |
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Post by midlifecrisisrd on Mar 25, 2019 15:23:02 GMT 1
Dropped the tank back at the painter today
Strangely with it being in the warm car the blisters reduced to barely being there
Painter reckons they are between the 2 coats of lacquer so he'll flatten it back tomorrow and relacquer to see if it sorts it
Being decent enough about it so I'll wait and see how it goes
Steve
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Post by petenofear on Mar 25, 2019 15:34:46 GMT 1
It’s thata the case mate it must of been micro blisters as the heat will settle them down ,
I have a couple on my rs turbo they go down in the summer heat lol
I really need to redo it but always about finding time
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Post by midlifecrisisrd on Mar 28, 2019 13:02:17 GMT 1
Just spoke to the painter
The micro blistering is all sorted now but there was another blemish right on the centre line just above the seat edge
It was a little line like a tiny hair about 1mm wide by 2mm long
He is sorting it but warned it is right on the centre weld of the tank so no guarantee it's not actually fuel vapour under the paint from a porous weld
Well I shat myself at that point and told him to stick a liner in it
This thing is never fecking ending
Steve
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Post by Yogi on Mar 28, 2019 22:13:17 GMT 1
Don’t mess with lcs,come back to the valves  It’s kicking and screaming all the way until the end  |
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Post by midlifecrisisrd on Mar 28, 2019 23:04:00 GMT 1
Don’t mess with lcs,come back to the valves It’s kicking and screaming all the way until the end Don't worry, it's ypvs's from now on Been out in the garage tonight sorting stuff for powder and stuff for blasting Dropped a set of cases off yesterday for welding so nearly ready to start 2 builds running alongside the 3HM1 tart up for the road Steve |
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Post by fozzy17 on Mar 29, 2019 8:21:58 GMT 1
funny enough a friend of mine had his lc done in candy blue and had the same issues small bubbles in paint, and he only noticed them a few weeks after picking the tank up, maybe water based paint?
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Post by stusco on Mar 29, 2019 8:35:58 GMT 1
It happened to my mars bar done by mark cordwell
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