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Post by Nicky on Jan 9, 2019 19:36:56 GMT 1
Anyone fitted one of these little smart boxes? Thought I'd give it a whirl, but am scratching my bonce a bit over one or two matters.
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Post by LC_BOTT on Jan 9, 2019 20:18:39 GMT 1
Just watched a vid on youtube, looks very impressive for a hybrid build, what made you buy it and what problems are you having. Mutts fits them, and mentioned the install a little while ago, although I don't think it was the 'blue' version.
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Post by earthman on Jan 9, 2019 21:01:46 GMT 1
Just watched a vid on youtube, looks very impressive for a hybrid build, what made you buy it and what problems are you having. Mutts fits them, and mentioned the install a little while ago, although I don't think it was the 'blue' version. Looks like an amazing bit of kit but what if something happens to your mobile phone whilst you out, even if it's just the battery going flat, is there another way to turn the alarm system off for example?? |
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Post by Tobyjugs on Jan 9, 2019 21:11:28 GMT 1
I'm not so positive about it. It seems to be a bit of a got to have piece of luxury to keep up with the neighbours so to speak. Our bikes work perfectly fine without it???
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Post by dusty350 on Jan 9, 2019 21:16:40 GMT 1
I would imagine it's a good idea for a hybrid build. My next build will see all the electrical components moved to the seat hump - a bespoke loom would probably be the best idea for the build and I reckon the non Bluetooth version could be ideal. Dusty  |
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Post by JonW on Jan 9, 2019 21:47:53 GMT 1
Why on earth is it desirable to be texted when my turn signal burns out? i'll be riding it and cant look at my phone and will have probably noticed anyway!
Dont get me wrong I love the motogadget stuff, its great tech and cool, but while I get that these things are useful in the main, but 99% of the time its just a (moto)gadget.
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Post by earthman on Jan 9, 2019 22:30:24 GMT 1
I'm not so positive about it. It seems to be a bit of a got to have piece of luxury to keep up with the neighbours so to speak. Our bikes work perfectly fine without it??? I kind of agree, personally I like the LC or any older bike for it's simplicity,....yes my other 'modern' bike has CANbus, fly by wire throttle and god knows how many fancy electrical sensors etc, all fine and dandy while they are new/working but I can imagine the amount of pain involved in trying to trace and fix a fault on such a system. Modern vehicles are so reliant on a battery being in tip top condition,....I've just watched this, prime example of how bad things can get but surely that system cutting the headlight even whilst the engine/alternator is running is a pretty bad design fault? Skip to 30.29 for the start of the faults. |
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Post by fozzy17 on Jan 10, 2019 7:57:10 GMT 1
pointless, imo
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Post by marrcel on Jan 10, 2019 9:35:53 GMT 1
Well i can see it as a gadget. If you dont want an old faulty key switch, this is an option.
I think most of the buyers will be showing of at a terras with their mates. My bike has blue tooth control😎
Yes i have an app to control my girlfriend i will reply🤪
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Post by fozzy17 on Jan 10, 2019 10:53:01 GMT 1
Well i can see it as a gadget. If you dont want an old faulty key switch, this is an option. I think most of the buyers will be showing of at a terras with their mates. My bike has blue tooth control😎 Yes i have an app to control my girlfriend i will reply🤪 isn't a key a safer bet than a electronic device |
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Post by madmick on Jan 10, 2019 13:44:49 GMT 1
They are excellent bits of kit on the right application.
My friend who builds custom bikes uses these on all he does... but sends them away to be wired in. Custom wiring is necessary in most cases.
M.M.
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Post by Dieseldog on Jan 10, 2019 14:12:32 GMT 1
Loose or break your phone whilst whilst out and about and bike parked up - no blue tooth = pushing bike home with horn and lights flashing  |
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Post by fozzy17 on Jan 10, 2019 14:31:39 GMT 1
What happens if your phone goes flat
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Post by Tobyjugs on Jan 10, 2019 17:36:57 GMT 1
If they don't get it wired in correctly and your telephone goes flat or you lose it, it's not a problem.
You just start it the old fashion way! Pull the ignition connector plug
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Post by sharpey on Jan 11, 2019 3:44:14 GMT 1
I fitted one to my 350lc... The wiring, controls, clocks etc were all in pretty poor shape when I bought the bike... I have saved the original controls and clocks etc for the next owner... but decided it would make more sense to re-wire the bike and give it a touch of modernity... I went with the motogadget blue (tbh, I don't use the bluetooth bit)... I just wired the key in... (as Tobyjugs has said, all the key is doing is cutting the killwire connection to ground). You'll need a relay like this one www.singtech.com.sg/shop/5-pin-12v-relay-30a-8787a/ to get the M:unit to kill the ignition (I have a powerdynamo ingition)... Also got the motoscope... which is a nice bit of kit! I think it's probably worth it if you fancy re-wiring the bike.. which I found to be relatively straightforward (get the right tools like crimpers, heatshrink etc)... Probably ended up more cheaper than a NOS loom and controls to be honest... |
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Post by Nicky on Jan 11, 2019 14:50:14 GMT 1
Thanks everyone, but as usual on forums, my question wasn't answered and instead a load of (rather obvious) negatives etc. I fully understand that if my phone goes flat I just use the key and that I don't have to read a sms telling me my blinker has gone whilst riding - but I didn't ask about that. I didn't buy it for those features. I have no interest in "showing it off" or not liking the "good old fashioned way using the key". Anyway, as I said, thank you.
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Post by LC_BOTT on Jan 11, 2019 15:16:23 GMT 1
No, but you also never said what problems you were having with it either??
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Post by Tobyjugs on Jan 11, 2019 18:46:22 GMT 1
Thanks everyone, but as usual on forums, my question wasn't answered and instead a load of (rather obvious) negatives etc. I fully understand that if my phone goes flat I just use the key and that I don't have to read a sms telling me my blinker has gone whilst riding - but I didn't ask about that. I didn't buy it for those features. I have no interest in "showing it off" or not liking the "good old fashioned way using the key". Anyway, as I said, thank you. Sorry for being a negative grumpy old fart niikkio |
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Post by JonW on Jan 11, 2019 22:11:23 GMT 1
When youre not specific in what you want to know you cant expect the answer you want. It sounded like you were contemplating buying one, not struggling with wiring or using it.
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Post by fozzy17 on Jan 11, 2019 22:18:06 GMT 1
Thanks everyone, but as usual on forums, my question wasn't answered and instead a load of (rather obvious) negatives etc. I fully understand that if my phone goes flat I just use the key and that I don't have to read a sms telling me my blinker has gone whilst riding - but I didn't ask about that. I didn't buy it for those features. I have no interest in "showing it off" or not liking the "good old fashioned way using the key". Anyway, as I said, thank you. Anyone fitted one of these little smart boxes? Thought I'd give it a whirl, but am scratching my bonce a bit over one or two matters. somebody did answer and said they had one but didn't use some features, but you will find most of the people on here are old grumpy farts getting near 50 or over |
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Post by Nicky on Jan 12, 2019 14:22:17 GMT 1
No, but you also never said what problems you were having with it either?? I didn't specify precisely my query because it's complicated and technical, not the best to launch the first question on and it being an item I suspected issn't commonly in use / popular - hence my question "scratching my bonce..." which was supposed to invite a response like "Yes I've got one, what's the problem?" or "Yes I've got one - nightmare to wire but what''s your question?" |
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Post by Nicky on Jan 12, 2019 14:31:36 GMT 1
Thanks everyone, but as usual on forums, my question wasn't answered and instead a load of (rather obvious) negatives etc. I fully understand that if my phone goes flat I just use the key and that I don't have to read a sms telling me my blinker has gone whilst riding - but I didn't ask about that. I didn't buy it for those features. I have no interest in "showing it off" or not liking the "good old fashioned way using the key". Anyway, as I said, thank you. Anyone fitted one of these little smart boxes? Thought I'd give it a whirl, but am scratching my bonce a bit over one or two matters. somebody did answer and said they had one but didn't use some features, but you will find most of the people on here are old grumpy farts getting near 50 or over Yes, and I am 55. Had my first 250LC in 1983 and two more in the 90s including a SS-stage 3 tuned 375 LC.
I think it's better not to ask any more questions, just read the fourm and see if I can pick up any crumbs from that. I don't want to upset the apple cart by daring to venture into anything modern or thing that disabuses Elsie's-lore.
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Post by Tobyjugs on Jan 12, 2019 15:36:58 GMT 1
No niikkio you have to ask questions, that's what a forum is about.
I love it when bare jiggles the Apple Cart.
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Post by doohanno1 on Jan 12, 2019 15:56:59 GMT 1
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Post by JonW on Jan 12, 2019 23:34:42 GMT 1
Happy to have questions asked, especially the modern stuff. Please do ask and report back as it drives us forwards. Thats how I got my GPS speedo and other tech which is cool. I think the problem was the phrasing and expectation. Anyway, dont write us off, keep asking and hopefully we can help you.
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Post by fozzy17 on Jan 13, 2019 8:53:01 GMT 1
i actually agree with him, maybe best not if hes going to throw his dummies out the pram, jeez lighten up fella, not you tobymy mistake i qouted you not the above  computers ehh |
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Post by Dave B on Jan 13, 2019 10:49:07 GMT 1
I used one (not the bluetooth sort) to wire my Hybrid. It is infinitely simpler to use an m Unit to create a complete harness from scratch than to waste hours modifying a standard harness to work with different controls, ignition switch, lights, Zeeltronic ECU, speedo......
The programming is one of those things that get a lot easier if you read the manual carefully, rather than pressing buttons and hoping things will work. The othe upside is the reduction in extra modules like flasher units, immobiliser, distribution fuse board etc. that you have to find a place for.
I really recommend the M Unit, even if the name does sound like Prince's band, or Zappa's Daughter!
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Post by Nicky on Jan 17, 2019 19:04:34 GMT 1
I used one (not the bluetooth sort) to wire my Hybrid. It is infinitely simpler to use an m Unit to create a complete harness from scratch than to waste hours modifying a standard harness to work with different controls, ignition switch, lights, Zeeltronic ECU, speedo...... The programming is one of those things that get a lot easier if you read the manual carefully, rather than pressing buttons and hoping things will work. The othe upside is the reduction in extra modules like flasher units, immobiliser, distribution fuse board etc. that you have to find a place for. I really recommend the M Unit, even if the name does sound like Prince's band, or Zappa's Daughter! Thanks a lot Dave. |
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