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Post by mickt1964 on Sept 3, 2018 14:15:45 GMT 1
My LC is the only one I have owned, so I have nothing to compare to.
So wondered if this can be improved on or its how it is.
When going back down the gearbox the gear change become really sloppy between 2nd and 1st as though there is nothing there (best way I can describe it) and then is really difficult to engage neutral if the bike is running, as soon as I turn the engine off, snicks into neutral straightaway. Its never jumped out of gear.
Opinions please appreciated.
Mike
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Post by stusco on Sept 3, 2018 14:56:02 GMT 1
The second to first problem is unusual but neutral problem is very common if you do a search you will find lots of info but the easiest cure is change the oil to gear oil for use with wet clutches
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Post by Deleted on Sept 3, 2018 15:13:19 GMT 1
I cannot engage neutral when the bike is running. As stusco says I think it is a common problem.
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Post by mickt1964 on Sept 3, 2018 15:16:20 GMT 1
Already using putoline gearbox oil
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Post by stusco on Sept 3, 2018 15:38:48 GMT 1
Looks like you will need to pull the casing off ,I would try adjusting the clutch first is there any drag?
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Post by mickt1964 on Sept 3, 2018 15:58:09 GMT 1
Adjusted the clutch, how do you know if you need to replace the clutch plates etc?
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Post by stusco on Sept 3, 2018 16:54:46 GMT 1
If it slips under load
When it’s on the centre stand in neutral does the wheel spin if so you have clutch drag
If you do a search there is quite a few things you can do / buy to solve this or just learn to slip it in neutral before you stop
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Post by earthman on Sept 4, 2018 10:49:12 GMT 1
My LC is the only one I have owned, so I have nothing to compare to. So wondered if this can be improved on or its how it is. When going back down the gearbox the gear change become really sloppy between 2nd and 1st as though there is nothing there (best way I can describe it) and then is really difficult to engage neutral if the bike is running, as soon as I turn the engine off, snicks into neutral straightaway. Its never jumped out of gear. Opinions please appreciated. Mike Have you had the clutch plates apart yet? Do you have all those rubber rings between them? My guess is that they swell up a bit once the engine is hot,....well that's the only time I find it difficult to find neutral, it's fine whilst cold. |
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Post by muttsnuts on Sept 4, 2018 14:59:56 GMT 1
most common issue is clutch drag, this is becasue alot of the after market clutch kits have a taller stack height, which causes drag, if you take the clutch apart check the thickness of the fibres and steels, fibres should be no more than 3mm and no less than 2.85mm, the steels should be no more than 1.2mm and no less than 1.15mm
Only recently have I managed to find an aftermarket clutch kit that has the right thicknesses for both steels and fibres, generally the fibres are 2.85mm thick (new) and the steels are either 1.5mm thick or 1.6mm thick, in most cases it is fine, but I've had a couple of situations where this has been an issue.
Now I tend to fit 3 original steels and 3 new steels if I can't get hold of the 3mm thick fibres
HTH
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Post by earthman on Sept 4, 2018 16:00:44 GMT 1
most common issue is clutch drag, this is becasue alot of the after market clutch kits have a taller stack height, which causes drag, if you take the clutch apart check the thickness of the fibres and steels, fibres should be no more than 3mm and no less than 2.85mm, the steels should be no more than 1.2mm and no less than 1.15mm Only recently have I managed to find an aftermarket clutch kit that has the right thicknesses for both steels and fibres, generally the fibres are 2.85mm thick (new) and the steels are either 1.5mm thick or 1.6mm thick, in most cases it is fine, but I've had a couple of situations where this has been an issue. Now I tend to fit 3 original steels and 3 new steels if I can't get hold of the 3mm thick fibres HTH That's interesting, where did you find the correct sized kit? |
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Post by muttsnuts on Sept 4, 2018 20:51:07 GMT 1
from one of my parts supplier
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Post by steeley on Sept 4, 2018 21:15:06 GMT 1
NICE . Oh on a couple of my bikes I ended up fitting a couple or three air cooled rd steel plates to beef the pack/springs up .
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Post by earthman on Sept 4, 2018 21:49:03 GMT 1
from one of my parts supplier Any more details on the make of the kit? If any other members are planning on fitting a new clutch, knowing which one to look out for would be great to know.  |
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Post by spondon440 on Sept 4, 2018 21:58:34 GMT 1
Why not just buy a kit off Mutts?
Andy
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Post by dusty350 on Sept 5, 2018 7:42:36 GMT 1
+1 for Mutts. He will get you the right parts Dusty |
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Post by 4l04ever on Sept 5, 2018 7:57:59 GMT 1
From memory, I thought the LC Steels plates were 1.2mm and the air cooled ones were 1.5mm?
Perhaps we need to measure the thickness of the whole pack to make sure it is not too thick?
You also need to make sure you have no warped plates, as they will cause drag. I usually stack all the steel plates together and check to make sure I cannot see any daylight between them.
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Post by 4l04ever on Sept 5, 2018 8:03:29 GMT 1
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Post by Deleted on Sept 5, 2018 8:07:05 GMT 1
from one of my parts supplier Any more details on the make of the kit? If any other members are planning on fitting a new clutch, knowing which one to look out for would be great to know. I would get your bike up to Dave's. Whilst he is very busy, I would highly recommend him to sort it out. |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 5, 2018 8:10:24 GMT 1
NICE . Oh on a couple of my bikes I ended up fitting a couple or three air cooled rd steel plates to beef the pack/springs up . I have a 400F and the gearbox is as smooth as when compared to the LC, so that makes sense |
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Post by earthman on Sept 5, 2018 9:06:16 GMT 1
Any more details on the make of the kit? If any other members are planning on fitting a new clutch, knowing which one to look out for would be great to know. I would get your bike up to Dave's. Whilst he is very busy, I would highly recommend him to sort it out. I can't afford to pay other folk to work on my vehicles period, apart from the financial aspect, I enjoy working on vehicles, it's a part of owning them in my eyes. |
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Post by muttsnuts on Sept 5, 2018 9:13:01 GMT 1
the plates are EBC and the steels are TRW
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Post by earthman on Sept 5, 2018 9:15:07 GMT 1
the plates are EBC and the steels are TRW Many thanks Dave. |
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Post by muttsnuts on Sept 5, 2018 9:23:09 GMT 1
I can do you the fibres and steels for £70 delivered, PM me if interested
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