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Post by splodgey on Aug 26, 2018 22:54:05 GMT 1
Are the prices dropping for good LC’s as there seems to be quite a few on e bay that are less than £4k that seem to be good useable machines, I hope not seeing as I payed £6k for mine last year..
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Post by midlifecrisisrd on Aug 26, 2018 22:56:02 GMT 1
I've also noticed the 2 - 3k projects hanging around a while
Maybe just time of year with holidays and that
Probably pick up again with people looking for winter projects
Steve
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Post by sparx on Aug 26, 2018 23:00:58 GMT 1
So do I have to wait for winter to sell tzr250 rolling chassis ? Be ideal with a Powervalve motor in it
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Post by ypvs400 on Aug 27, 2018 0:44:10 GMT 1
So do I have to wait for winter to sell tzr250 rolling chassis ? Be ideal with a Powervalve motor in it No sell it to me now
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Post by JonW on Aug 27, 2018 1:01:27 GMT 1
I expect with the good summer that people spent their money elsewhere, it'll probably come back over next 6-9 months.
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Post by 17again on Aug 27, 2018 8:17:45 GMT 1
or there are to many bikes coming in.
seems like more imports coming in every other week.
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Post by earthman on Aug 27, 2018 9:49:26 GMT 1
Are the prices dropping for good LC’s as there seems to be quite a few on e bay that are less than £4k that seem to be good useable machines, I hope not seeing as I payed £6k for mine last year.. Did you buy the bike just as an investment then? Personally I've never looked at anything as an investment, it's more important to use and be happy with the item whilst you have it. If the monetary value goes down, big deal. Now I have an LC in my life again after a 30 year absence, I certainly don't plan on selling mine period, I'm using it every week despite having a modern bike too.
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Post by muttsnuts on Aug 27, 2018 11:19:20 GMT 1
always find this odd how people worry about how prices fluctuate and even dropping, and yet, people go and spend £15k on the latest and greatest flying machine and in the space of 3yrs has dropped to £7k, so a loss of £8k just like that and yet I have the self same customers who have paid good money for a stonking LC/YPVS or other good 2 strokes and then start worrying if the vaklue drops £500 or a grand ! - bizarre
But yes I agree, I think the really good summer has had people out riding them and the projects and bikes for sale have slowed, but come October the prices for projects will grow again and good bikes coming up for sale in March/April next year will see strong prices I suspect
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Post by splodgey on Aug 28, 2018 22:34:00 GMT 1
Never purchased as an investment , just wanted one because I could not afford one when I was 17. Just miffs me to think that I could have saved myself a couple of grand.
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Post by steve h on Aug 28, 2018 23:44:30 GMT 1
I hope the prices fall through the floor...I'll buy a 350 to keep the 250 company..
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Post by bare on Aug 29, 2018 0:03:10 GMT 1
Agreed.. Hate buyers who operate under "the bigger fool" theory... Where one will sell it on for more than was paid for it regardless. The house of cards collapses the moment the market refuses to pay.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 29, 2018 1:25:01 GMT 1
LC's were cheap thrills back in the day, shame that ain't the case now. I bought mine to 'do up and ride, what it's worth and cost me is irrelevant... it'll get sold when I'm dead or incapable of riding it! Not anytime soon hopefully. 😁
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Post by wassy06 on Aug 29, 2018 9:54:28 GMT 1
Only two prices matter really. The price you buy at and the price you sell for everything in between is irrelevant.
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Post by jon on Aug 29, 2018 12:25:18 GMT 1
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Post by mikee on Aug 29, 2018 12:39:27 GMT 1
lcs are still cheap 5/6k gets a nice one , price of an sv650 or summat similar
all bike prices will change over the next few years , electric vehicles and the subsequent fuel price rises , natural wastage of owners and legislation will see to that , just enjoy them while we can
mike
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Post by donkeychomp on Aug 29, 2018 22:13:21 GMT 1
I agree Mike and Jon. A restored LC, so a new bike (kinda) for £6K is damn cheap compared to anything else out there that even compares to it. And what other bike delivers that thrill we remember from youth? Bonkers acceleration and the handling...I prefer the flex and feel you get on an LC, modern bikes are way too rigid for me. I know how much mine has cost so far and no, it will never be sold. My godson gets it when I pop me clogs and I can see him in the corner of my eye with what appears to be a large carving knife...
Alex
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Post by tab on Aug 29, 2018 22:28:00 GMT 1
I would say prices will go up on LCs and the like for the next 20/25 years, and the BSA, Triumph etc will fall due to demand by us, middle aged men who never had old brit bikes. What will happen when we are too old to ride or buy them is any ones guess, the younger ones want an X box.
Tab.
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Post by earthman on Aug 30, 2018 7:31:05 GMT 1
I would say prices will go up on LCs and the like for the next 20/25 years, and the BSA, Triumph etc will fall due to demand by us, middle aged men who never had old brit bikes. What will happen when we are too old to ride or buy them is any ones guess, the younger ones want an X box. Tab. Personally I'd say that that time frame is way too optimistic, combustion engines will probably be banned by then for a start. I'm almost 50, I bought my first LC when I were 19, just like most of my mates did at the time, they were the bike to have in that era. By the mid nineties things had moved on in general, friends who had turned 19 then, most jumped straight to a four stroke machine. In 10 or 20 years time I doubt very much that those rides would be looking for an LC, more likely a GPZ or similar.
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Post by 17again on Aug 30, 2018 8:07:33 GMT 1
the lads of today growing up dont really ride bike as much as you guys did back when you were 17, 18
you see a few riding cbr or yzr and scooters.
nothing like what it used to be.
i am sure if a 17 year old were to ride a lc 125 with all the mods would be amazed compared with this 4 stroker 12bhp crap.
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Post by copper99 on Aug 30, 2018 10:40:50 GMT 1
It does surprise me that some people purely base the value of any item solely by eBay, eBay does not have the monopoly on classic bike sales(which is the more accurate question, not "is my RD is worth xxx this year/week/month" I couldn't agree more with this piece from this months Dealer News Magazine(I can post this monthly if anyone is interested), keep clam , enjoy your bike,carry on riding and take a step or two away from the eBay now and again...
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Post by midlifecrisisrd on Aug 30, 2018 13:24:32 GMT 1
I only do it as a hobby so make no money out of it so all the better if they drop to a more realistic level
At the moment I can't do projects I want because of the cost
I'd like to do a 250 lc but with 3hm1 running gear and the 250ypvs engine
Unfortunately I don't have the £5k to buy the 2 donor bikes 🙁
Yet.....😏
Steve
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Post by JonW on Aug 30, 2018 15:09:51 GMT 1
I'd like to do a 250 lc but with 3hm1 running gear and the 250ypvs engine I agree, an 51L ypvs makes the same power as a 350LC but more lineer, perfect city bike imho hence why im building one.
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Post by sparx on Aug 30, 2018 16:48:13 GMT 1
If you only have bikes as an investment Then it’s time to sell If you have then for the love of them then hang on to them
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Post by 17again on Aug 30, 2018 17:43:44 GMT 1
i cant really see them being an investment with the amount of money you spend on them you can make more with a isa
of course there is no fun with a isa
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Post by dereckerick on Aug 30, 2018 21:05:08 GMT 1
High prices are often driven by emotion, people want what they couldn’t have then but can afford now. When those buyers either won’t pay or move on the market will drop. I’ve contributed to higher prices. The arse will drop, obviously but my question is what’s the next trend, what was iconic as RD. what has made a significant change in motorcycles that warranted what we see today with such enthusiasm with RDs
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Post by sparx on Aug 30, 2018 22:01:10 GMT 1
High prices are often driven by emotion, people want what they couldn’t have then but can afford now. When those buyers either won’t pay or move on the market will drop. I’ve contributed to higher prices. The arse will drop, obviously but my question is what’s the next trend, what was iconic as RD. what has made a significant change in motorcycles that warranted what we see today with such enthusiasm with RDs Nothing
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Post by donkeychomp on Aug 30, 2018 22:08:51 GMT 1
+1
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Post by steve h on Aug 30, 2018 23:18:13 GMT 1
i cant really see them being an investment with the amount of money you spend on them you can make more with a isa of course there is no fun with a isa You can make more money begging for a day than a fecking ISA makes in a year...
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Post by JonW on Aug 31, 2018 1:10:12 GMT 1
Your best investment would be to do something else with the money, hours of time and silly nos parts costs surely dont mean these are making anyone real money to do up and sell. And as for long term, they might well go up more, but they will always drop when our generation is no longer capable to enjoy or be interested in them. Do this for the enjoyment, the fact they are not worth less than you put in is a bonus and means guys like us are willing to at least put in the hours and money on the builds, although most of us never sell. As for whats coming next, R1, blade etc... and yes those are already well on the up... after that who knows, I gave up looking at and owning new bikes after 2005 so am not able to offer input, but the world was already different by then, maybe nothing will be perved over by the generation after us as they were more interested in Max Power Corsa and fiestas by then...
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Post by donkeychomp on Aug 31, 2018 1:17:18 GMT 1
I dunno. Vincent Black Shadows are a very rare beast and command top dollar. In another 25 years LC's will be rarer than a rare thing and then some. By that time most of us here will be way past our sell by date (myself excluded, I intend to die aged 100 being chased by a jealous husband) but what bikes survive will be even more iconic than they are now.
Seriously folks there is nothing out there that compares to an LC in the power band.
Alex
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