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Post by tommo on Aug 16, 2018 6:37:17 GMT 1
does the majority of people in this forum think the blue rdlc on e bay worth £12000
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Post by dusty350 on Aug 16, 2018 6:52:53 GMT 1
www.ebay.co.uk/itm/yamaha-rd350lc/173473796647?hash=item2863d81227:g:iZcAAOSwIOtbaeFtWorth and value are 2 different things. I can understand the price probably reflects the cost involved with building a really nice bike. Is it worth £12k ?? I would say not, but it only takes one minted enthusiast to like it enough to buy it ! I do think the meteoric price rises have slowed this year, both for standard and hybrid bikes. The high priced bikes don't seem to sell easily like they did before, and I think a threshold has been crossed meaning the big ticket bikes hang around longer, imo Dusty
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Post by jackjabba on Aug 16, 2018 7:32:18 GMT 1
Well the seller did say "FULL RESTORATION costing £1000s of £1000s." So according to him it cost at least £1,000,000. So I would say that at £12,000 its a steal.
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Post by earthman on Aug 16, 2018 7:44:12 GMT 1
www.ebay.co.uk/itm/yamaha-rd350lc/173473796647?hash=item2863d81227:g:iZcAAOSwIOtbaeFtWorth and value are 2 different things. I can understand the price probably reflects the cost involved with building a really nice bike. Is it worth £12k ?? I would say not, but it only takes one minted enthusiast to like it enough to buy it ! I do think the meteoric price rises have slowed this year, both for standard and hybrid bikes. The high priced bikes don't seem to sell easily like they did before, and I think a threshold has been crossed meaning the big ticket bikes hang around longer, imo Dusty That's my opinion too. It's the same with the parts, I've seen the same part being listed throughout the year,....these people are just hoping that someone will pay £250 for a small piece of plastic for example. Seriously, the chances of that actually happening are very low.
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Post by rigga on Aug 16, 2018 8:30:16 GMT 1
No.
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Post by wassy06 on Aug 16, 2018 8:43:28 GMT 1
27 watching...... all off this forum !
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Post by muttsnuts on Aug 16, 2018 9:28:02 GMT 1
no, I'd say £7k maybe £8k, and it would ahve to be done really, really well, which most aren't TBH
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Post by Deleted on Aug 16, 2018 9:50:41 GMT 1
TBH there isn't much point in debating what something is or isn't worth, however we all have an opinion on what we would pay. I recently bought an RGV. The seller asked what he wanted and I paid what I thought it was worth. We were both happy as the figure was the same.
As an individual you buy a bike for "x" spend "y" doing "z" many hours and you might get your money back if your time is minimum wage. However a restoration shop is going to be working on £30+ per hour. A dealership probably £50+ per hour
Working backwards, you buy a bike for £12k to put the key in and ride. Assuming the following rough figures, Labour of 100 hours at £50/hour, less than 3 weeks work, that's £5,000. Add in a full paint job say £1000, full engine rebuild £1,000 refinish wheels £500, tyres, £250 brake refurbish £150, nuts and bolts etc. and that's another £3,000. Add a set of pipes frame powder coating and what ever else needs refinishing and add another £1,000 to the costs. So a wreck of a bike costing £1,000 (where are you going to find one of those) when fully restored will make a £2,000 profit if sold for £12,000 and £10,000 to break even
But in answer to the OP a big NO
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Post by fozzy17 on Aug 16, 2018 10:49:46 GMT 1
A friend of mine restores and then sells them on, they are mint and period correct, rebuilt motor new paint everywhere, he normally gets between 7 to 8 k most are German imports but with uk clocks ect, even at that price they are a hard sell
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Post by firmstools on Aug 16, 2018 13:56:55 GMT 1
If Yamaha were to re make the LC today exactly as it was in 1981 how much would you be prepared to pay for it? I very much doubt it would be in showrooms for anywhere near £12,000.
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Post by Dangerous on Aug 16, 2018 14:03:03 GMT 1
Way too much😳😳
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Post by jackjabba on Aug 16, 2018 14:05:04 GMT 1
If Yamaha were to re make the LC today exactly as it was in 1981 how much would you be prepared to pay for it? I very much doubt it would be in showrooms for anywhere near £12,000. I wouldn't pay more than the cost of a KTM 390 which is around £5k if they started making them again.
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Post by iwantalc on Aug 16, 2018 17:47:11 GMT 1
matching keyring as well got to be worth the money ..lol
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Post by donkeychomp on Aug 17, 2018 0:36:51 GMT 1
If only they would make another LC, but as we know 2 strokes are not being made as they are too polluting. Hang on a mo...what about diesels? The most polluting engines ever made and yet they are still on sale everywhere. Does a tiny 350cc 2 stroke put out THAT much nauseous gases than a 2 litre diesel? I think not and how many of our bikes are on the road right now compared with the amount of sodding dervs. Lorries, buses, taxis etc and then there are the twerps who think having a diesel is a cheap alternative to petrol...no it isn't. Plus how many of us have lost it on a roundabout thanks to a lorry slopping diesel all over the road?
Don't get me started on the Toyota Prius lol.
Rant over.
Alex
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Post by midlifecrisisrd on Aug 17, 2018 8:48:20 GMT 1
If only they would make another LC, but as we know 2 strokes are not being made as they are too polluting. Hang on a mo...what about diesels? The most polluting engines ever made and yet they are still on sale everywhere. Does a tiny 350cc 2 stroke put out THAT much nauseous gases than a 2 litre diesel? I think not and how many of our bikes are on the road right now compared with the amount of sodding dervs. Lorries, buses, taxis etc and then there are the twerps who think having a diesel is a cheap alternative to petrol...no it isn't. Plus how many of us have lost it on a roundabout thanks to a lorry slopping diesel all over the road? Don't get me started on the Toyota Prius lol. Rant over. Alex And breath 🤣 There would be a real problem if everybody had a two stroke lol As for that prius lot, got stuck behind one in my lovely polluting diesel Mondeo. He was in the outside lane sitting at 85-90 At what point during that was he thinking about the planet and his emissions. A real eco warrier Oh I know, he was just trying to reduce my emissions by keeping me behind him Didn't help the emmisions from my gob 🤬 (had been a long day, 5 service calls in Fraserburgh and back) Steve
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Post by Tobyjugs on Aug 17, 2018 13:57:21 GMT 1
I was once on the M25 and on two separate occasions those Prius tree hugging do gooders we're making hand signs about my series2 Landy being stinky.
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Post by liffy16 on Aug 17, 2018 14:50:59 GMT 1
With you diesel's donkeychomp they stink weather stunk behind them on motorcycle or getting past by them on pushbike you really notice it then!God they stink and whats that doing to my lungs!! If that lc is worth 12k then mines worth 8k which it isnt so yes not worth the money and if he's spent'x' amount on restoring it thats not my fault,no one's felt sorry for me when i lose money on every project i do !! LOL!
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Post by Tobyjugs on Aug 17, 2018 15:42:01 GMT 1
Diesel engines are not so bad as everyone thinks. I work on diesel and new green type engines. The new green type engines can be 25 times more damaging to the environment when they are not operating correctly.
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Post by rigga on Aug 17, 2018 16:32:05 GMT 1
Nox levels are on the increase again now this government are starting to persecute diesel cars, really haven't got a clue.
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Post by copper99 on Aug 17, 2018 16:59:08 GMT 1
Nox levels are on the increase again now this government are starting to persecute diesel cars, really haven't got a clue. Agreed, they lurch from one thing of focus(Co2 ) and then (the now current focus of attention) particulates but a modern diesel is still a clean vehicle compared to those of just a few years ago and comparible to petrol in most areas and way above it in MGG....My thoughts are that many areas of town/cities will become pedestrianised as really, the govts and councils would ideally eliminate the combustion engine full stop where they can so lets not got too anti fossil fuel, electric aint an option for most of us just yet anyway. On the subject of electric, the newer battery technology isnt exactly green to manufacture and is ful of rare metals,if it catches alight, which some have , you cant put them out just like that, they'll burn for a day no problem. My 2016 car has some hybrid tech in it inc a seperate battery which is there to power all the electrics interally , 2 weeks ago it went faulty and it cost £580 to replace, most of the charge was labour as there is a special process for powering down these batteries and their ancillary pieces before they can even be worked on... BTT , Yeh, 12k is a piss take and the seller must know that!
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Post by jon on Aug 17, 2018 18:25:45 GMT 1
I’ve had comments recently about commenting on what I think something is worth.
Now if it’s 10% or so overpriced I don’t even clock it as that’s normal.
However when things seem extremely overpriced I’ll comment.
Why? People rightly say why bother if you don’t want it?
As the OP says, what do others think?
If people want re-assurance that what is advertised is a fair price as they aren’t 100% sure themselves, then why not ask? As far as I see it it is only the sellers of these overpriced items would object to saying it’s worth less?
A lot of people on here are more than willing to offer their opinion.
Mine in this case is that it isn’t worth that much. However why not ask a high price if you have no worry if it sells or not. Mercenary to wait for a rich desperate buyer, but again why not?
It limits the market massively. You have to find the right person, with the money who wants 100% In that colour and spec.
Jon
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Post by rigga on Aug 17, 2018 19:29:58 GMT 1
Sellers wife popped up on Facebook stating it was her husbands bike, how much of a rebuild had been carried out, and that he had spent 3k doing so, someone piped up that at the price advertised, he didn't really want to sell it, inferring that he'd over priced in order that it wouldn't sell (admiral tactic imho), she responded that she wasn't bothered if he sold it or not ...... seems he actually thinks spending £x on a rebuild adds £x to the price its worth.
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Post by donkeychomp on Aug 17, 2018 22:20:03 GMT 1
Off the top of my head Clarkson from TG... The Prius is more polluting than a new Land Rover Defender. The nickel used in the batteries is mined in Canada (causes acid rain) and is then shipped to China to be turned into a gel then to Japan to get put in the batteries, then shipped to the UK. Huge carbon footprint. You cannot dispose of the batteries and if driven like a 'normal' car life expectancy can be as little as 5 years. If you own the car outright buying new batteries is very expensive (lots lease them). They then did 10 laps around the TG track a Prius and a BMW M5 (V8). The BMW was more economical. And Prius sell each one at a LOSS. So buying one of those toss wagons is doing more harm to the environment than good. Me done Alex
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Post by rigga on Aug 17, 2018 22:35:15 GMT 1
That's the trouble with these eco warriors driving their "green "vehicle's, they are oblivious to the carbon footprint from producing them in the first place, its the same from all these electric cars that will be all over the place if the government get their way, where is all the electricity coming from to charge them?
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Post by jon on Aug 18, 2018 8:29:57 GMT 1
That's the trouble with these eco warriors driving their "green "vehicle's, they are oblivious to the carbon footprint from producing them in the first place, its the same from all these electric cars that will be all over the place if the government get their way, where is all the electricity coming from to charge them? The existence of aliens is covered up because they have brought new technologies to Earth which would ruin the fossil fuel industries. Corrupt world leaders are sitting on alien technology which could provide cost free renewable energy to the world. Jon
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Post by Tobyjugs on Aug 18, 2018 9:30:02 GMT 1
Do you think aliens like blue RD's?
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Post by jon on Aug 18, 2018 9:35:35 GMT 1
Do you think aliens like blue RD's? Possibly? I wonder if they have their equivalent with retro flying saucers? The younger aliens making fun of their dad’s old saucer. Jon
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Post by jackjabba on Aug 18, 2018 9:47:56 GMT 1
That's the trouble with these eco warriors driving their "green "vehicle's, they are oblivious to the carbon footprint from producing them in the first place, its the same from all these electric cars that will be all over the place if the government get their way, where is all the electricity coming from to charge them? The existence of aliens is covered up because they have brought new technologies to Earth which would ruin the fossil fuel industries. Corrupt world leaders are sitting on alien technology which could provide cost free renewable energy to the world. Jon At last your posts are starting to make sense.
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Post by rigga on Aug 18, 2018 10:11:47 GMT 1
If they did have similar retro tastes to us .....
The red ones would be faster!
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Post by midlifecrisisrd on Aug 18, 2018 11:09:08 GMT 1
Oh dear
Better drop the spec of my build then as got a 12k parts bill 🙄
Steve
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