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Post by iwantalc on Jun 3, 2018 15:38:13 GMT 1
am I missing something here swing arm on ebay £720 plus £40 postage , looked on website only £650 delivered item number 173348236217
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Post by midlifecrisisrd on Jun 3, 2018 16:07:35 GMT 1
That will be the 20% + sale fee for business sellers
Steve
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Post by oldelsieboy on Jun 3, 2018 16:13:25 GMT 1
am I missing something here swing arm on ebay £720 plus £40 postage , looked on website only £650 delivered item number 173348236217 £720 less ebay fees + post = £680 (ish) less Paypal fees, on full sale price, £25 (ish) = £655 OEB
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Post by oldelsieboy on Jun 3, 2018 16:14:19 GMT 1
That will be the 20% + sale fee for business sellers Steve Look like it is listed on a personal account. OEB
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Post by midlifecrisisrd on Jun 3, 2018 16:23:57 GMT 1
That will be the 20% + sale fee for business sellers Steve Look like it is listed on a personal account. OEB Slightly less then but as you've already said still a large slice in fees Steve
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Post by russpuss on Jun 3, 2018 16:38:44 GMT 1
Built with the same jigs but built by others now as metmachex sold the arm business.
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Post by 1966baz on Jun 3, 2018 16:47:46 GMT 1
Crazy money, I only paid around £200 each for the last 2 JMC arms ( in need of a good clean ).
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Post by jackjabba on Jun 3, 2018 18:36:58 GMT 1
Crazy money indeed, I cant see it being a great money making business.
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Post by Norbo on Jun 3, 2018 21:57:47 GMT 1
Yep its the fees I do the straight cut gears at £295 on the shop page but i put them on e bay at £340 to cover the fees
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Post by metmachexswingarms on Jun 8, 2018 20:47:57 GMT 1
Hello we are the new owners of Metmachex Engineering’s Swingarm section. Just to make you all aware the Swingarms listed on eBay are genuine and are of course more costly due to eBay fees. I just want to point out, our contact details are clearly visible on a picture as I would prefer to sell these out of eBay to save the costs. (This advert is more for advertisement as is proving to be a very good method of advertisement along with Facebook). The price of these swingarms are £620 plus postage, but we will give big discounts for multiple orders! If anyone wishes to contact us directly you can do so via email sales@metmachexswingarms.co.uk These LC350’s over the last few months have proven to be a very good seller.
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Post by lb on Jun 9, 2018 0:50:05 GMT 1
Rightio then..... Group buy for lc swingers anyone?
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Post by jackjabba on Jun 9, 2018 9:29:12 GMT 1
Hello we are the new owners of Metmachex Engineering’s Swingarm section. Just to make you all aware the Swingarms listed on eBay are genuine and are of course more costly due to eBay fees. I just want to point out, our contact details are clearly visible on a picture as I would prefer to sell these out of eBay to save the costs. (This advert is more for advertisement as is proving to be a very good method of advertisement along with Facebook). The price of these swingarms are £620 plus postage, but we will give big discounts for multiple orders! If anyone wishes to contact us directly you can do so via email sales@metmachexswingarms.co.uk These LC350’s over the last few months have proven to be a very good seller. What do you call a big discount? Remember much of your potential future sales are present on this forum and other forums visited by members here. If you want to fill your order books then make an offer; i.e. Get an order for X and sell them for ££££ I am sure if the price is reasonable and it was a big discount then you would see a good uptake. Don't take this personal because I know you have costs and overheads and still need to make a profit, but for me £620 is £120 too much. Maybe other forum members can give you an idea of what they think. What about the JMC style arms for the YPVS, do you think you could be doing those in the future. Anyway no mater what, I wish you good luck with your venture.
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Post by oldelsieboy on Jun 9, 2018 10:14:02 GMT 1
Hello we are the new owners of Metmachex Engineering’s Swingarm section. Just to make you all aware the Swingarms listed on eBay are genuine and are of course more costly due to eBay fees. I just want to point out, our contact details are clearly visible on a picture as I would prefer to sell these out of eBay to save the costs. (This advert is more for advertisement as is proving to be a very good method of advertisement along with Facebook). The price of these swingarms are £620 plus postage, but we will give big discounts for multiple orders! If anyone wishes to contact us directly you can do so via email sales@metmachexswingarms.co.uk These LC350’s over the last few months have proven to be a very good seller. What do you call a big discount? Remember much of your potential future sales are present on this forum and other forums visited by members here. If you want to fill your order books then make an offer; i.e. Get an order for X and sell them for ££££ I am sure if the price is reasonable and it was a big discount then you would see a good uptake. Don't take this personal because I know you have costs and overheads and still need to make a profit, but for me £620 is £120 too much. Maybe other forum members can give you an idea of what they think. What about the JMC style arms for the YPVS, do you think you could be doing those in the future. Anyway no mater what, I wish you good luck with your venture. And if you were to offer a straight pull chain adjuster instead of those damn awful eccentric things you'd have at least one more customer. OEB
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Post by dusty350 on Jun 9, 2018 19:42:39 GMT 1
I agree Nigel, those eccentric adjusters are sh*te. And alters your ride height every time you adjust the chain !!. When I ordered mine, they did the drag adjusters but it was an extra £60 Dusty
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Post by skydemon on Jun 9, 2018 20:00:56 GMT 1
Maybe a decent chain guard too. Chopping boards are getting expensive 🤣🤣🤣
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Post by doohanno1 on Jun 9, 2018 20:03:50 GMT 1
I agree Nigel, those eccentric adjusters are sh*te. And alters your ride height every time you adjust the chain !!. When I ordered mine, they did the drag adjusters but it was an extra £60 Dusty Sure every time you adjust the chain you alter the wheel base.!😉
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Post by dusty350 on Jun 9, 2018 20:05:13 GMT 1
Yea, crap chain protector is an extra £25, chain guard is an extra £25, stand bobbins are extra - cant remember how much, but the really shitty attitude from Dean when my wheel wouldn't fit was free ! Surprised he didn't charge me £25 for that too ! I do want another swingarm - maybe 2, so I hope the new guys are good to deal with. Dusty
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Post by metmachexswingarms on Jun 9, 2018 21:23:18 GMT 1
Thanks for your replies folks. To clear one thing up, and I hope the news is good for you all...Dean no longer has ANYTHING to do with Metmachex this is now run by myself Tamsyn and my partner Garry. Garry was trained by Bill (the original owner) of Metmachex Engineering. You guys can find us on Facebook (I’m aware some of you already have). We have a page called Metmachex Swingarms LTD. Here you will find many pictures of recent Swingarms. We pride ourselves on our business and hope to gain back some of the respect clearly lost previously. I will keep checking the forum and try my very best to answer any questions you may have. The reason we don’t make LC350’s with the slot adjustments is due to the Swingarm section on these being 50mm our slot adjustments are to suit the bigger section we do which is 75mm. This would mean clearance issues if we used the larger section. But if I had enough orders for spotted adjustment then I could make a batch that is very similar to the tz350 Swingarms we do. This would mean us making smaller slots. We haven’t yet done this apart from TZ’s as we were not aware there was a market for this. By discount I mean for example an order of 10 RD LC 350 Swingarms the price would be £500 each (£120 discount per arm) plus postage. Let us know your thoughts of course.
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Post by dusty350 on Jun 9, 2018 21:40:38 GMT 1
Hi Tamsyn, Thanks for replying on the forum. My experience of dealing with Dean wasn't a pleasant one, and I got my local engineering place to sort my issue in the end, at an extra cost of £40 ! I had an Lc arm to take an Rgv wheel, and the spacers were wrong. It was Deans attitude that really pi**ed me off, especially considering I had just spent £800 with him. Anyway, I got it sorted in the end, and I'm pleased with the arm. The eccentric adjusters don't seem to do what they are supposed to though, and I would never buy another arm with them fitted, so the drag style of adjuster is the only option for me. Also, the chain protector that I paid extra for was obviously designed for a different arm - it looked horrible and had 3 bolt holes but only 2 rivnuts were used on the arm, so I ended up modifying that too. The hybrid builds are a big part of Lc culture now, and I'm sure you will get a lot of interest in your swingarms. I want another Lc/Rgv arm and hope you can do it with the drag style adjusters Is it just the swingarms you are doing or do you intend to supply other parts ? Regards Dusty
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Post by oldelsieboy on Jun 9, 2018 21:41:56 GMT 1
The reason we don’t make LC350’s with the slot adjustments is due to the Swingarm section on these being 50mm our slot adjustments are to suit the bigger section we do which is 75mm. This would mean clearance issues if we used the larger section. But if I had enough orders for spotted adjustment then I could make a batch that is very similar to the tz350 Swingarms we do. This would mean us making smaller slots. We haven’t yet done this apart from TZ’s as we were not aware there was a market for this. By discount I mean for example an order of 10 RD LC 350 Swingarms the price would be £500 each (£120 discount per arm) plus postage. Let us know your thoughts of course. Please concider this the first of, hopefully, at least 10 orders for a Metmachex LC swingarm manufactured with slotted chain adjusters. OEB
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Post by dusty350 on Jun 9, 2018 21:48:47 GMT 1
May I add that I was annoyed to think I had to pay extra for a chain protector. I understand extra for bobbins or different chain adjusters, but knowing a steel chain is going to come into contact with a soft alloy arm would make you think that a slipper would come as standard. When I bought mine, everything was an extra and that can ramp the price up. I understand you have profit margins to maintain, but I did feel it was a bit tight to make a chain protector an "extra", knowing the damage that the chain will do. Dusty
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Post by metmachexswingarms on Jun 9, 2018 21:50:07 GMT 1
I’m sorry to hear that Your dealings with Dean were so dreadful, it does seem many people say the same thing. Thank goodness he’s gone then!! Just to give you a heads up be AWARE of a company called BILLET WORLD in Derby if you never want to deal with him again! Anyway, I’m pleased to hear we would have an order for one with slot adjustments, all we need is some more interest!! 😊 As far as making other products at present we are just making Swingarms but once we have more time/machines (as this is our first year of business) we will be looking at making other things too.
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Post by metmachexswingarms on Jun 9, 2018 21:51:30 GMT 1
May I add that I was annoyed to think I had to pay extra for a chain protector. I understand extra for bobbins or different chain adjusters, but knowing a steel chain is going to come into contact with a soft alloy arm would make you think that a slipper would come as standard. When I bought mine, everything was an extra and that can ramp the price up. I understand you have profit margins to maintain, but I did feel it was a bit tight to make a chain protector an "extra", knowing the damage that the chain will do. Dusty We supply these chain slippers with these arms for free.
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Post by dusty350 on Jun 9, 2018 21:52:27 GMT 1
Great, that's good news Dusty
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Post by russpuss on Jun 9, 2018 22:00:13 GMT 1
Guys, Dean is a good lad. The business is sold and it’s moved on. The overheads before will now be less.
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Post by dusty350 on Jun 9, 2018 22:10:11 GMT 1
Not in my experience I'm afraid. It's water under the bridge now, but at the time I was very far from happy with him. Shame, coz I love the swingarm itself and want one for my next build.
Dusty
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Post by stusco on Jun 9, 2018 22:12:31 GMT 1
Guys, Dean is a good lad. The business is sold and it’s moved on. The overheads before will now be less. He was a bellend when I had to deal with him and it was £50 for paddock stand bobbins,and no chain slider and it didn’t fit I had to cut a piece out of my mudguard on a lc I thought they were made on a jig
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Post by metmachexswingarms on Jun 9, 2018 22:19:47 GMT 1
Guys, Dean is a good lad. The business is sold and it’s moved on. The overheads before will now be less. He was a bellend when I had to deal with him and it was £50 for paddock stand bobbins,and no chain slider and it didn’t fit I had to cut a piece out of my mudguard on a lc I thought they were made on a jig Paddock stand bosses also come free from us 😊
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Post by midlifecrisisrd on Jun 9, 2018 22:50:43 GMT 1
Sounds like you are making a good start at turning the metmachex reputation around
Will you be offering the option of non standard swing arms
For example as Dusty said lc with rgv arm
I take it you are still making ypvs arms
Steve
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