whos got cctv & alarm advice please ?

[petehodges]

evening lads
theres been a fair sheds & vans turned over lately near me & i,m thinking of alarming up the house& shed & fitting cctv , anyone got any recomendations on what to go for ?
i want it linked to my phone aswell ? i,ve been told to makesure its a good quality as need it too read number plates see peoples faces also id like night vision
any ideas ?
cheers pete

[Norbo]

there is a very good CCTV at COSCO dome and normal They are HD and most importentley if any one comes in range they send a message to your phone to say you have movement and you can watch whats going on from your phone and call the neighbours or any one to go round or if you are asleep and its middle of the night the phone will wake you up and you know some one is on the prowl

[dusty350]

The other thing you can get is a door bell with a camera in it. It links to your phone so you can see who is at the door and talk to them too. Many opportunist burglars ring the bell first to see if anyone is in. If they don't ring the bell, there is a motion sensor in the unit that alerts you too. A worthwhile extra to a CCTV and alarm system. A baby monitor set up in your garage/shed is a good way to hear unwanted visitors in the night too. Motion activated lights, out of reach of interfering hands are always a good idea too. And don't forget to lock everything well. You would be amazed how many people don't lock doors or gates. You have to make it as difficult as possible for thieves to make off with your stuff - they don't want to hang around too long so making their "in and out" really difficult will hopefully deter them.

Dusty

[rigga]

I have several layers of tech, cctv I have a system called Cammy, sends alerts to phone and email, works on proximity of registered users phones, so self arms when not in the vicinity of the camera, or you can have it constantly armed or not, depending on your preference takes excellent quality pictures, although video is a rapid fire selection of pictures, rather than smooth video, content is saved to the cloud and is secure, so even if the scrotes nick the camera, the footage still available, unlike camera's that have SD cards fitted, cameras are wifi enabled and work fine connecting to the house router via home plugs , which use the earth wiring of your ring main. Night vision is also very good , think i pay £15 a month for the cloud storage. also baby alarm down the garage, so I can hear anyone down there if im at home. Also have another camera outside the garage from time2, but its not as good as the Cammy ones, lots of false alerts when weather is bad, rain and the like.

[tsa]

I have been looking at some 8 camera ultra HD 4K systems but it seems they are so new that not many reviews about yet with proof of camera clarity more expensive than most setups but if the quality is there them well worth it.

[markhoopy]

I have an alarm system in the building where my bikes are kept as well as a CCTV system.
The alarm was fitted by a security company local to me and was £140 - keypad/control box, two sensors and outdoor bell unit. This was about eight years ago though so prices will have gone up and you can have as many sensors as you want at extra cost - movement, door/window sensors etc - and you can also decide where they are fitted. It has an internal battery and will work if the power is cut. Seemed a bargain at the time and I have never had any problems with it going off without reason. You can also get an alarm that notifies your phone if it goes off.

HD CCTV systems obviously give a better picture but the four-camera systems that you can buy for £130 are pretty good too. The hardest part when fitting them is running the cables and you have to drill through walls with a bit big enough for the connectors to fit through too.

Downsides - bell boxes for alarm systems can be attacked with a hammer or crowbar and as there is a two-minute delay in the alarm being triggered if they know what they are doing and are quick enough they will get the box off before it sounds. Consider having a second bell box or siren inside the building as a back-up.
With any CCTV system you will have to find somewhere to locate the recorder unit. Cameras are easy to spot - especially so at night when they give off a red light - and if they know a CCTV system is fitted they will often rip out the recorder unit and take it with them if they do manage to break in. Try hide it away and make it as difficult as possible to get to or remove.

Remember too that an alarm and CCTV system are just deterrents and are seen these days as nothing worth worrying about. They all wear hoodies pulled tight round their faces so they can't be identified so CCTV cameras won't stop them.
These two came and looked round our garden one night then four of them returned a week later and tried breaking into our house. They knew we had CCTV but it didn't put them off.
Cobwebs on the cameras don't help

[veg]

As dusty says make it difficult the advice we used to give was make it more difficult to burgle your place than your neighbors, burglars want the path of least resistance. The doorbell camera is a great idea cameras are a deterrent but hoodies and scarves can obviously hide peoples faces, big chains ground anchors etc but the biggest deterrent is still a big noisy dog. I have a big dog and 3 noisy ones 👍

[Deleted]

IMO you need independent layers of security

Discourage
Record/vision
Noise
Locks

Stop them even thinking about it by having obvious security, gates fences difficult access and even more difficult escape routes.
CCTV in clearly visible places recording road and path access as well as doors and gates. I have MAXXone 7 x HD IR cameras (domes). Night vision is brilliant. MaxxOne recorder has movement areas, email notification and an app. so you view real time on your phone. I had Swan before. It's free to anyone wanting to pay the postage.
Drive way alerts. If anyone comes near my sheds they get a loud repeated bleed from the sensors. 1 by One are cheap and you can attached multiple sensors to one alarm box. I have 4 sensors and 2 boxes
PIR I have these in the sheds connected to the house alarm. I have 3 sirens on the house alarm. You can also use driveway alerts set to alarm mode for continual warning siren.
Shed door hinge security screws. These only allow you to screw them in. You can't get them out with a screwdriver.
Chains and locks. Abus and Oxford. Chain them to anything, the ground, each other, anything but lock them up. Introduce some obstacles as well. The only blind spot I have is littered with broken bricks and bits of wood with nails in them. If anyone jumps over that (8ft) fence them will have to hobble to A&E

[iwantalc]

if you have any fences burglars might climb over tack carpet gripper to it this will make a nice mess of their fingers ..

[dusty350]

A shotgun mine alarm mounted inside a garage or shed will make the scummers sh*t themselves and alert you to their presence;

www.airsoftworld.net/alarm-trip-mine-12g.html.

Be aware though that if the poor little scrotes damage their hearing when setting it off, the PC brigade will come galloping to their defence and probably try and sue you !!

Dusty

[muttsnuts]

May 2, 2018 20:05:53 GMT 1 dusty350 said:

A shotgun mine alarm mounted inside a garage or shed will make the scummers sh*t themselves and alert you to their presence;

www.airsoftworld.net/alarm-trip-mine-12g.html.

Be aware though that if the poor little scrotes damage their hearing when setting it off, the PC brigade will come galloping to their defence and probably try and sue you !!

Dusty

eh, what did you say !!!

[Norbo]

Ive seen these tryed to get some from the us were they are cheep as chips but t hey cant post to the uk .

[ianboom]

I have CCTV and they tried to steal my Fiesta ST ( I actually sold it and bought an old Focus because of the stress).
Cameras never bothered them-the footage has to be cinema grade before the police get interested, so It's a deterrent.
It is quite interesting what goes on when you're not at home-I had a central heating radiator lent up the side of the house and it was a comedy seeing the guy steal it!
I also have a house alarm connected to the garage, again it's a deterrent, but we use it at night and it's comforting to know there's a good chance I'll know somebody is trying to break in giving me chance to get my baseball bat and air pistol before I phone the police!
A good security device is quality locks. Double glazing type locks are laughably easy to break into. Fit 3star anti snap, anti bump locks to all doors-approx £50 each.
If you have something valuable enough, they get it any way they can, so sadly the best deterrent is to have nothing worth stealing!

[scootjockey]

I’ve worked in the fire & security industry for 30 years now installing intruder alarms cctv etc, I will always tell anyone who will listen. 1st of all invest in good physical security locks window bars good doors etc. Once you’ve spent money on those then spend money on the deterents such as alarms cctv etc. Pyronix provide IMO the best wireless intruder alarm systems you can buy. Hik vision just about rule the world when it comes to cctv and as luck would have it have bought into Pyronix. They now have a very good integrated App for both the intruder and cctv. If set up correctly you can get push notifications from both systems and have remote monitoring via a LAN/WAN connections. You don’t have to spend the earth for it either. But before you spend any money think what you need and where you can spend it. Then go away and think how you would now break in and steal your stuff and how easy it would be to remove it. Only then will you know what you want. But and this is a sorry fact if someone really wants your stuff they will have it. You just need to make life hard for them to get it to the point where they will think again and turn your next door neighbours place over. Budget £400 plus depending on what you want to cover for an intruder system and the same for CCTV, you can get it cheaper but as I’ve said that’s a budget cost. Good luck and don’t scrimp on the physical after all no self respecting burglar likes to work hard for a living...... 😂

[petehodges]

big thanks for replys lads getting alarm fitted this week , then next up will be cctv , i,m looking into the hikvision ones as been told there good for the money

[dazzle]

May 3, 2018 8:43:54 GMT 1 Norbo said:

Ive seen these tryed to get some from the us were they are cheep as chips but t hey cant post to the uk .

You can get these from, eBay and Amazon also gun shops stock them,
The cartridges are quite expensive though as they are water proofed.