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Post by will27 on Feb 7, 2018 18:54:30 GMT 1
Had the op Monday acl done and cartlidge removed from joint it was to badly damaged to repair ,at the minute knee not to painfull but where they have harvested the hamstrings bugger that's sore had dressings removed today , the exercises are bit easyier without them , they said today rehab will be about a year !! anyone else had it done
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Post by dusty350 on Feb 7, 2018 21:00:59 GMT 1
Good luck with your rehab, and hope it improves your movement. Hurt my knee last week. Tripped on an uneven pavement whilst out running !! I'm now in the system for an urgent MRI but no one seems to hurry doing anything I hate not being able to get on with things. Hopefully for you, things will improve and you get back to where you want to be Good luck Dusty
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Post by barney on Feb 7, 2018 21:15:38 GMT 1
I’ve not personally had it done but my brother in law who I run with did, he has a few issues here and there but generally it’s ok, we both do a lot of running including marathons so the repair is up to the job! i had 2 spinal ops in the past and having gone through rehab on the national health I would seriously consider looking for a private Physio which may speed up the recovery process a little good luck on your recovery
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Post by barney on Feb 7, 2018 21:22:47 GMT 1
Good luck with your rehab, and hope it improves your movement. Hurt my knee last week. Tripped on an uneven pavement whilst out running !! I'm now in the system for an urgent MRI but no one seems to hurry doing anything I hate not being able to get on with things. Hopefully for you, things will improve and you get back to where you want to be Good luck Dusty Dangerous this running lark I’ve had more injury’s from running than I did racing motorbikes for 20years😂😂 i fractured my ankle a couple of years ago running the London marathon and had to pay private for a mri as the docs said it was sprained and just to rest it😡did it through my sports physio and think it cost around £200, being self employed I had to get it sorted ASAP!! hope you manage to get yours done soon
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Post by will27 on Feb 7, 2018 23:22:47 GMT 1
I had op done private and physio will be as well , the nhs would only do a replacement knee I waited a year for Mri scan as nhs physio said there was nothing wrong 😡
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Post by bazzer5115 on Feb 8, 2018 1:03:56 GMT 1
The good news is the reconstructed acl will stabilise the knee and it shouldn’t feel like it all wobbly and about to “give out” all the time.The bad news is the total removal of the meniscus because that is your knees shock absorber and stops the bones rubbing together-without it the surface of the bones will wear out in about 10-15 years and all they can do then is a knee replacement. I have been through pretty much the same as you-be it many years ago. I ruptured my acl 21 yrs ago but my meniscus was intact. I was out of Moto cross for a whole season(went kart racing instead-well racing in my blood) Unfortunately for me my graft was done to loose(they used to use some of your patella tendon -knee cap tendon for the reconstruction in those days. ACL reconstruction was still relatively new 21 yrs ago and surgery is nearly always successfull these days. 4 yrs after my “loose” reconstruction (knee was still relatively unstable)I twisted it playing cricket with some kids and that resulted in a “bucket handle tear “to the meniscus- the worse type. This resulted in complete removal of meniscus. I was told that because of this I would need a new knee in 10 yrs! Well it been 17yrs and I am now on waiting list for this. I did return to moto cross for about 5 seasons with a £500 knee brace but the knee was slowly deteriorating. ,so I went road racing instead! To preserve your knee now you need to not be overweight,and keep the muscles in that leg as strong as possible(I do loads of mountain biking) I was offered an operation after they removed the meniscus from my medial compartment (inside of knee)called a”high tibial ostipy”(may be spelt wrong) They break your tibia (lower leg)and insert a wedge so as to make the outer compartment of your knee take more weight to give medial compartment with no meniscus an easier time.But I was told it not always successful and by then I had enough of operations on the knee and time of work(self employed so NO sick pay) Best of luck👍
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Post by bazzer5115 on Feb 8, 2018 1:24:33 GMT 1
It’s spelt “high tibial osteotomy”,google it and it tells you about it.You can even watch the operation being performed. You will see why I didn’t fancy it-looks a bit messy!!!!!
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Post by mouse on Feb 8, 2018 8:03:52 GMT 1
In June last year, i came off my 31k, broke my tib and fib, destroyed my meniscus and damaged tendons and also the ACL. I have been doing physio and do exercise every day (boring!) to strengthen the upper leg. Saw the surgeon in January, bones have healed well but he has advised the ACL surgery, hopefully in April. They have told me the meniscus is irreparable, but the ACL should be ok. The recovery time is 8 to 12 months!. A week on crutches, 6 weeks of no driving, biking!
I'm not really looking forward to it!
Mouse
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Post by bazzer5115 on Feb 8, 2018 9:01:21 GMT 1
Recovery time that the surgeon tells you is the total recovery time,meaning how long it takes for full recovery to enable you to race moto cross,play football,go skiing etc I was up and about and doing most things after 3 months,but the extra time is to allow graft to fully take and strengthen.So it was only the things that put hard shearing forces through the knee which has to be avoided for the longer period. Just modify your activity for a bit. I went kart racing which I enjoyed,but went back to moto cross after one season missed. So it not all bad👍
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Post by will27 on Feb 8, 2018 11:16:16 GMT 1
The good news is the reconstructed acl will stabilise the knee and it shouldn’t feel like it all wobbly and about to “give out” all the time.The bad news is the total removal of the meniscus because that is your knees shock absorber and stops the bones rubbing together-without it the surface of the bones will wear out in about 10-15 years and all they can do then is a knee replacement. I have been through pretty much the same as you-be it many years ago. I ruptured my acl 21 yrs ago but my meniscus was intact. I was out of Moto cross for a whole season(went kart racing instead-well racing in my blood) Unfortunately for me my graft was done to loose(they used to use some of your patella tendon -knee cap tendon for the reconstruction in those days. ACL reconstruction was still relatively new 21 yrs ago and surgery is nearly always successfull these days. 4 yrs after my “loose” reconstruction (knee was still relatively unstable)I twisted it playing cricket with some kids and that resulted in a “bucket handle tear “to the meniscus- the worse type. This resulted in complete removal of meniscus. I was told that because of this I would need a new knee in 10 yrs! Well it been 17yrs and I am now on waiting list for this. I did return to moto cross for about 5 seasons with a £500 knee brace but the knee was slowly deteriorating. ,so I went road racing instead! To preserve your knee now you need to not be overweight,and keep the muscles in that leg as strong as possible(I do loads of mountain biking) I was offered an operation after they removed the meniscus from my medial compartment (inside of knee)called a”high tibial ostipy”(may be spelt wrong) They break your tibia (lower leg)and insert a wedge so as to make the outer compartment of your knee take more weight to give medial compartment with no meniscus an easier time.But I was told it not always successful and by then I had enough of operations on the knee and time of work(self employed so NO sick pay) Best of luck👍 Sounds similar I originally did mine 30 years ago and had a carbon graft which didn't work , playing rugby at the time and doing enduro's also being Hgv engineer is all hard on knees , I had a bucket and handle tear on one side and straight tear on other they have said about a year for rehab and should be able to run in 3 months , Did they say to you that around 2/3 months is the critical stage as you feel better but the graft is at weakest point 👍
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Post by Deleted on Feb 8, 2018 13:53:09 GMT 1
Our AFL footballers have the same injury too, about 3 a year suffer it
They have the best rehab people and they aren't allowed to reenter the game for 12 months
A few do the LARS type surgery which uses a synthetic tendon instead of your hamstring, it seems to be successful too with faster rehab too
I wouldn't be rushing it if it were me though
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Post by bazzer5115 on Feb 8, 2018 16:01:52 GMT 1
The carbon graft was the forerunner to my patella tendon graft which has been superseded by the hamstring graft,but looks like that about to be improved upon now. A guy I used race motocross’ with had the carbon graft a few years before my patella graft. Within half a season he resnapped it,then gave up!! Will27 hows your knee holding up at the moment?
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Post by will27 on Feb 8, 2018 17:40:16 GMT 1
Hi Bazzer its good at minute very swollen but I'm managing to do exercises couple of them are difficult particularly the stretching hamstring ones ,but I'm only 3 days after op being honest they told me they wouldn't be able to manage pain for first 1/2 weeks but it's not that bad , think I must have got used to pain over the years 👍
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Post by ajv on Feb 8, 2018 22:24:40 GMT 1
Had my ACL reconstructed 11 years ago, aged 41.. No regrets whatsoever, opp was done October, back riding March. Better than new June.
Consultant told me to be very careful for first 6 weeks (use leg brace as much as possible for extra support). Get yourself a good physio, do the exercises and you’ll be fine. Age is a factor mind, the older you are, longer the rehab & risk of complications.
First slip post opp was scary but but needn’t have worried.. 11 years on the repaired knee is stronger than the old one
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Post by will27 on Feb 11, 2018 10:48:12 GMT 1
That’s good news ajv hope mine is as successful, last couple of days it has got more painfull got physio tomorrow so will see what they say
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Post by bigkenx on Feb 11, 2018 21:49:02 GMT 1
My knee is f**ked had acl 20 years ago but they removed cartilage and shit so like you all say it gives you arthritis and surface bone is not get nothing can be done only replacement but at 42 they won’t do it and I don’t want it done so lots of exercise to keep it strong and stretches I saw a top specialist private who does footballers and he can’t even break the the tibia as both sides are f**ked he said I was a credit to my own willpower as technically I shouldn’t be doing the graft i do the problem is he says footballers and high paying professionals soon as injury happens they are straight in and repair is fresh we have to wait and knee gets more and more knackered cause we have to grin and bear it going to work to earn money
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Post by will27 on Feb 12, 2018 11:55:49 GMT 1
Your not wrong there mine has been going on best part of 30 years , the consultant had to give me injection to relax knee to check over he couldn’t believe how I had been coping , but years of building up muscles around knee and protecting it so you can get on with life
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Post by bigkenx on Feb 12, 2018 12:20:59 GMT 1
What was the injection to relax the joint I could do with that mine is stiff
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Post by will27 on Feb 12, 2018 14:51:31 GMT 1
What was the injection to relax the joint I could do with that mine is stiff Can’t remember now it was so he could check play , I have been having it drained every week and quaterzone injections they help a bit
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Post by bigkenx on Feb 12, 2018 16:00:14 GMT 1
I’ve got a room for exercise now leg extension cycle runner etc just for keeping strength as it degenerates through no range what is good is a wobble board not Rolf Harris type you stand on it and strengthen tendons and ligaments makes knee more stable only bout a tenner
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Post by Deleted on Feb 12, 2018 16:20:50 GMT 1
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Post by bigkenx on Feb 12, 2018 19:46:52 GMT 1
Cheers for that I will have a look
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Post by will27 on Feb 19, 2018 22:48:03 GMT 1
Back to hospital today had dressings off and stitches out also physio , went on exercise bike pretty pleased that’s 2 weeks today since op walking without crutches 👍
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Post by nat666 on Feb 20, 2018 0:26:12 GMT 1
I have got a knackered knee as well, now in the referral queue to see a surgeon to see what they are going to do to it. it seems to be a fairly common issue with us lads in our age group !
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Post by dusty350 on Feb 20, 2018 9:50:05 GMT 1
Hi Glad you are recovering well, Will - really great news for you. I injured my right knee on February 1st. Out running, I stumbled on a depression in the tarmac and felt my knee "pop". Lots of swelling and pain followed. Saw my GP next day, who says "ligament damage probably", surgical repair likely, and does the paperwork for an urgent MRI. In the mean time I ice it and buy a really good knee support. Not sure if this process is the same for all NHS areas but this is what has happened to me. Doc sends off Urgent MRI referral on Friday afternoon. Monday morning I ring MRI dept at hospital to chase it up - they say ring referral service I ring referral service - no sign of paperwork, ring tomorrow. Tuesday - ring again, still no referral. So ring the GP surgery - still on their desk !! A very polite "rocket up the arse" gets the referral sent to the referral people. So I wait, and wait. I get a letter to see a Consultant on March 19th !! - Still no MRI. I ring up the Orthopaedic dept. "Oh, we always book a month in advance - would you like to come sooner ? How about next week " !! A whole month sooner ! So yesterday, a whole month sooner, I visit the specialist, who requests an urgent MRI !!! Possible Bucket Handle tear of the Meniscus, or possible ligament tear - Mri will confirm, and surgery is likely. I have to go back in a month - exactly the day I would have seen the Consultant for the initial appointment. Hopefully the Mri would have been done then so they actually have the scans to look at. Then they will decide what to do. I'm now self employed in a physical job, and haven't worked since the injury. Shaving off a month here, or a week there will make a huge difference to my income if I can get sorted and back to work sooner. Moral is, be polite and friendly but push for everything otherwise you end up waiting forever. I'm not someone to lose my temper or get angry, and the people you deal with are operating a system they didn't design, but if you don't ask you don't get. So keep asking the questions, politely - it may help. I haven't jumped in front of anyone else - just challenged the system that is in place and got a better result. Good luck Dusty
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Post by will27 on Feb 20, 2018 17:49:34 GMT 1
Hi Dusty I had bucket and handle tear and tear on other side , that’s pretty easy repair I was told , it’s the acl ligament and harvesting the hamstrings that takes the time saying that mine is coming on really well initially they said 4/6 weeks for walking but I’m walking now 2weeks and a day since op 👍
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Post by dusty350 on Feb 20, 2018 19:03:27 GMT 1
Glad you are up and about mate. You'll be back dancing in no time !! I didn't think I'd done my Acl as it has actually improved a lot since I did it. Will be nice to get back to full fitness though. Good luck with your recovery Dusty
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Post by bigkenx on Feb 23, 2018 15:36:23 GMT 1
Good news mate keep on with the Physio and make sure you get the quads strong , I’ve been working hard on the stretches for past year and now can get feet on a slabby I have if I can get on that I can ride bout anything , everything takes a longer time frame when get older
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Post by will27 on Feb 26, 2018 20:07:59 GMT 1
Back to physio it’s moving along well got to use exercise bike and cross trainer now , getting bit of pain now but I think it’s using muscles tendons etc haven’t been able to walk properly for 2 years now
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Post by will27 on Mar 11, 2018 16:00:26 GMT 1
Well 4 weeks on now snow has gone so out on Rd got some funny looks when I stopped for feul and started it by hand 😎 really pleased they had said about year before back on bike , Hopefully will be able to drive as well after hospital on Tuesday the Rd beats any therapy first time I’ve felt alive for weeks 👍
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