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Post by ypvs400 on Jan 31, 2018 23:44:22 GMT 1
I am well under way with what was going to be a YPVS 400 race bike but circumstances change and for a whole load of reasons racing wont be an option , the question is do I continue with the bike as a pure racer or have it road registered ? It will be a one off bike and I will have put much work into it and considerable expense with bespoke carbon bodywork and magnesium wheels etc. The harsh facts are I must consider its potential final value and cant help but think it would have a wider appeal as a road bike. Dont get me wrong I am not building it to sell but its inevitable that that day will come. Your thoughts please  |
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Post by Ozhammer on Jan 31, 2018 23:49:38 GMT 1
As with any special, you will be unlikely to recoup your full outlay but that’s not why folks build them is it?
If the race option is a no go, then building a road bike would seem to make more sense, as you would at least get some enjoyment from using it. I am unsure of the state of the race bike market but a well done special will usually find a willing buyer, especially within the group of people on here.
That’s view anyway, hope it helps.
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Post by donkeychomp on Feb 1, 2018 0:19:39 GMT 1
I agree. If you can't race anymore then the only option is a road bike, maybe just a daylight MOT so you can have a fairing etc. And some pics would be nice!
Alex
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Post by ypvs400 on Feb 1, 2018 8:38:49 GMT 1
Thanks for your thoughts, I will post images when the bike is finshed and hope that will be in June /July.
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Post by dusty350 on Feb 1, 2018 8:59:50 GMT 1
Hi There is a big market for road going specials - probably equal to or maybe greater than stock, original bikes nowadays. Sounds like it's gonna be a nice build. There is a really healthy market for a well built special, and when the time comes, a road based bike will be your best bet I reckon  Dusty |
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Post by 4l04ever on Feb 1, 2018 9:35:03 GMT 1
I was originally building a pure track bike, but by chance, the body work I found included lights, so I can have a full MOT and use as a road bike, which would make it more usable and therefore has a larger market and is maybe more valuable if I ever sell it.
Maybe you can make your bike as a pure race bike, but with facilities for conversion to a road bike, such as easily removable side stand, kick start, and maybe a separate loom that can be removed for lights/horn etc. Having it road legal also allows easier and legal testing on the road, which is handy. :-)
Good luck with your project :-)
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Post by midlifecrisisrd on Feb 1, 2018 9:43:16 GMT 1
As a minimum I'd make sure you build it from a frame with a v5
That way if you sell it the new owner can put on the road
No v5 would destroy it's value
Steve
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Post by Deleted on Feb 1, 2018 9:56:38 GMT 1
Agree with all the above. After all your considerable work continue with a road bike. Good luck
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Post by ypvs400 on Feb 1, 2018 16:02:04 GMT 1
No V5 as its a one off frame so no doubt I would need to go down through the SVA route.
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Post by bare on Feb 2, 2018 4:33:18 GMT 1
Many (most?) who buy a 30+ yr old Bike want it Factory original.
Some simply won't consider a non original bike.
Others.. willing to take a chance.. automatically reduce their offer price by the cost of returning it to factory original.
Real life Kids.
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Post by ypvs400 on Feb 2, 2018 8:03:09 GMT 1
The only Yamaha parts on this bike will be tha engine and that will be taken out to 400cc , I have owned quite a few original and mint YPVS 350s but have always wanted to build a modern equivalant using the YPVS motor. The only road bike parts will be the forks and they will be modified the rest is bespoke inc carbon seat/tank/airbox etc , the frame is verly light at 7kg.
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Post by 4l04ever on Feb 2, 2018 8:20:57 GMT 1
Sounds a great project! :-)
Perhaps get a scrap frame with V5 and build your frame on the headstock from that...... ;-) I believe a lot of custom choppers used to be built this way....
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Post by lrcarl on Feb 2, 2018 8:54:42 GMT 1
Sounds a great project! :-) Perhaps get a scrap frame with V5 and build your frame on the headstock from that...... ;-) I believe a lot of custom choppers used to be built this way.... Still do especially Harley’s Sportster v5 + headstock £1200+ So lots are Yamadavidson,Hondadavidson,etc Carl |
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Post by dusty350 on Feb 2, 2018 9:13:01 GMT 1
Sounds a great project One for the resto/rebuild section ?? Coz we all like project build pics  Dusty |
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Post by 4l04ever on Feb 2, 2018 9:32:29 GMT 1
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Post by 4l04ever on Feb 2, 2018 9:34:00 GMT 1
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Post by dusty350 on Feb 2, 2018 9:41:06 GMT 1
If the frame only weighs 7kg, I'm guessing it's ally ?
Dusty
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Post by 4l04ever on Feb 2, 2018 9:42:07 GMT 1
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Post by midlifecrisisrd on Feb 2, 2018 9:46:54 GMT 1
Yes I'd guess alloy too
I'd be buying the closest looking chassis with a v5 then cutting it out and get it welded into the one off frame
Ideally the bike you will be using the tank from so there is some similarity
Register as that model but declare chassis mods to insurance
Steve
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Post by ypvs400 on Feb 2, 2018 16:17:07 GMT 1
If the frame only weighs 7kg, I'm guessing it's ally ? Dusty Reynolds steel tube Dusty. |
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Post by dusty350 on Feb 2, 2018 16:21:07 GMT 1
Ah ok. Is the headstock from another bike an option for you ?
Dusty
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Post by lrcarl on Feb 2, 2018 17:53:03 GMT 1
Tigcraft?
Carl
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Post by ypvs400 on Feb 2, 2018 20:00:31 GMT 1
Yes Carl very light and compact, the YPVS engine is a snug fit. |
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Post by ypvs400 on Feb 2, 2018 20:01:07 GMT 1
Ah ok. Is the headstock from another bike an option for you ? Dusty Sadly not Dusty. |
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Post by Tobyjugs on Feb 2, 2018 20:02:29 GMT 1
I have a simular project using a modified Moto GP chassis but got no idea how much it weighs. I take it that you are weighing the chassis without swing arm and forks. Out of interest what size back rim have you gone for? I went with a 4.5" rim. I had a long conversation with NIco Bakker over this and he told me that 4.5" rim was plenty big enough.
I think you have made a good choice in the size of engine.
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Post by ypvs400 on Feb 3, 2018 9:22:58 GMT 1
I have a simular project using a modified Moto GP chassis but got no idea how much it weighs. I take it that you are weighing the chassis without swing arm and forks. Out of interest what size back rim have you gone for? I went with a 4.5" rim. I had a long conversation with NIco Bakker over this and he told me that 4.5" rim was plenty big enough. I think you have made a good choice in the size of engine. Pretty sure the rims are 3 and 3.5 , they are magnesium Marchesini from a 125 gp bike. |
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