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Post by headcoats on Nov 19, 2017 15:15:39 GMT 1
Triumph Bonneville 865 LOL
69 BHP, just gotta lighten it !
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Post by threefifty84 on Nov 19, 2017 22:24:29 GMT 1
I've got a Kawasaki z300. Light, responsive and sharp handling, rev happy engine.Sitting position is close to F2. It's no LC or PV but then nothing is.
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Post by alistair64 on Nov 19, 2017 23:22:12 GMT 1
What's happened to that 'motorcycling culture'then? Is it down to purchase price and insurance costs?? Surely young men of today would still be interested in two wheels?? My personal opinion for the lack of youngsters on motorcycles is for a number of reasons: 1) There is more traffic on the roads so it's more dangerous, and there are fewer occasions to open it up a bit safely. Most households are multi car owners now. 2) The existence of speed cameras cannot be got around. 3) The general attitude of Joe public and Plod's to motorbikes. I suspect bike gangs have added to this. 4) Credit. (linked to point 1). We used to ride what we could afford. These days some youngsters sneer at cars over 3 y ars old for their first car. They'd rather have debt. There are probably many more, but these spring to mind. Jon Agreed on these points, but I'd like to add that most so-called young 'men' nowadays pluck their eyebrows  , groom their silly-looking beards and would rather spend their money on another tattoo, because apparently that's what's expected and what the young girls find attractive (but so what)! Men have become just as vain as women I'm afraid (and much more girly). I can't remember the last time I spoke to anyone under 30 who had the slightest interest in doing anything that might give them dirty finger nails. IMO one of the main attractions of owning a bike is that you can do your own work to it and feel you've achieved something (or not, as the case may be!) |
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Post by earthman on Nov 20, 2017 8:51:13 GMT 1
My personal opinion for the lack of youngsters on motorcycles is for a number of reasons: 1) There is more traffic on the roads so it's more dangerous, and there are fewer occasions to open it up a bit safely. Most households are multi car owners now. 2) The existence of speed cameras cannot be got around. 3) The general attitude of Joe public and Plod's to motorbikes. I suspect bike gangs have added to this. 4) Credit. (linked to point 1). We used to ride what we could afford. These days some youngsters sneer at cars over 3 y ars old for their first car. They'd rather have debt. There are probably many more, but these spring to mind. Jon Agreed on these points, but I'd like to add that most so-called young 'men' nowadays pluck their eyebrows , groom their silly-looking beards and would rather spend their money on another tattoo, because apparently that's what's expected and what the young girls find attractive (but so what)! Men have become just as vain as women I'm afraid (and much more girly). I can't remember the last time I spoke to anyone under 30 who had the slightest interest in doing anything that might give them dirty finger nails. IMO one of the main attractions of owning a bike is that you can do your own work to it and feel you've achieved something (or not, as the case may be!) Lol, well observed. Compared to my school years, there certainly seems to be less young men looking to be a mechanic, plumber or any manual type of trade really. Someone told me that the simple wiring of a 3 pin household plug isn't taught anymore because every appliance comes with a moulded one. I wonder if girls are still taught sewing etc or are those kind of skills going to be obsolete for future generations? |
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Post by icarus001 on Nov 20, 2017 17:29:42 GMT 1
I can't remember the last time I spoke to anyone under 30 who had the slightest interest in doing anything that might give them dirty finger nails. IMO one of the main attractions of owning a bike is that you can do your own work to it and feel you've achieved something (or not, as the case may be!) There are one or two about but yes I agree, they all want to go to University now and then walk into high paid jobs, no one thinks they should have to graft anymore. I watched this TV programme a while ago where they had this lad who had been unemployed since leaving Uni four years ago, he refused to take a manual job because he thought he deserved better since he had a degree. His degree was in Media Studies, my dog could get the same degree by turning up once a fortnight. It was ridiculous, he was clearly a dimwit but had been conned into thinking the road would be paved with gold once he got his mickey mouse degree. |
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Post by billybalthorpe on Nov 20, 2017 20:57:57 GMT 1
His degree was in Media Studies, my dog could get the same degree by turning up once a fortnight. It was ridiculous, he was clearly a dimwit but had been conned into thinking the road would be paved with gold once he got his mickey mouse degree.
Amen to that Brother!
I have to employ people to work within our service team, I am more interested in what people can do rather than what degree they have.
Even when I have applied for jobs where "Degree in relevant subject" was mandatory, it was amazing how people dropped the mandatory when they heard that I had been in the industry for 30 years and had experience from the ground up.
The amount of people I have spoken to and interviewed with a degree, who were total empty headed numpties who thought that the real world owed them a living because they had spent 3 years pi**ing about doing a crap degree, would be laughable if I thought it would get any better, but I don't think it will, its just gonna get worse. Maybe this £9K a year tuition fee thing will stop a few, or will it just make them hugely in debt until the unlikely event of them actually earning enough at Tescos to start repaying the loan.
Heres an idea. Make a degree course in Physics, Engineering, Mathematics, Chemistry, Biology, etc, free from fees, but if you fail any year, you only get one re take. Then make all the crap degrees like Media Studies, Art History, Parapsychology, and Wild Writing, cost £50K a year to take. This means the rich kids who just want to toss it off for 4 more years can get on and spend daddies money doing Food Nutrition and Music whilst supporting people doing proper degrees who will actually make a contribution to the world.
Ohh look! My first rant!
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Post by billybalthorpe on Nov 20, 2017 21:06:36 GMT 1
I always thought that the first FZR600 from about 1990 was very reminiscent of the LC/PV. Very little bottom end and then a banzai rush to the red line.
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Post by stevep on Nov 21, 2017 0:07:29 GMT 1
Got to agree with Jons points , I made do with an nsu quickly while some mates had fizzys or garellis .
Looking back I also remember where I lived it was all fields !!!!
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Post by stevep on Nov 21, 2017 0:14:22 GMT 1
Billybalthorpe ,your also on the nail
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Post by JonW on Nov 21, 2017 8:35:30 GMT 1
I had to look up 'Wild Writing'... LOL. fanciful bullsht for sure.
Kids these days think they should be CEO within 2 weeks, with no experience or actual aptitude for the task in hand. Really, I blame their mum n dads for telling they can be anything they want and never telling them off ever to ensure 24/7 positive reenforcement and those man of the match certs that were awarded in a rota, not to the person who put in the most effort etc.*
* - I should add that my Fathers generation thought we were loudmouthed, funny dressed workshy fops who put everything on tick and generally had it too easy... One of the joys of being older is youre allowed to be unimpressed with the youth of today LOL
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Post by paulincayman on Nov 21, 2017 14:40:27 GMT 1
This seems appropriate at this juncture, skip to 3.00 for John Cleese finale....
HTH
Paul
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Post by bngt on Nov 21, 2017 19:46:20 GMT 1
I have a Husaberg FS570. It's fantastic but not the same.
Then I have a GSXR 1000. Too easy to drive fast and I am seldom able to trash it even if we do not have that much traffic in Sweden.
I have put a 421 into a TZR 2MA and it is fantastic, but more racer than hooligan.
The Yamasaki is great but too civil.
My F2 with TSA pipes always make me happy when I am at the powerband. It just begs to trashed and if I do, the speed is still not silly. I don't know what it is, it is just a special feeling with two strokes. The lousy handling adds to the excitement too!
I used to have a Husqvarna CR 390 when I was young. That one also had addictive performance plus grunt.
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Post by bezzer on Dec 4, 2017 8:31:38 GMT 1
What's happened to that 'motorcycling culture'then? Is it down to purchase price and insurance costs?? Surely young men of today would still be interested in two wheels?? My personal opinion for the lack of youngsters on motorcycles is for a number of reasons: 1) There is more traffic on the roads so it's more dangerous, and there are fewer occasions to open it up a bit safely. Most households are multi car owners now. 2) The existence of speed cameras cannot be got around. 3) The general attitude of Joe public and Plod's to motorbikes. I suspect bike gangs have added to this. 4) Credit. (linked to point 1). We used to ride what we could afford. These days some youngsters sneer at cars over 3 y ars old for their first car. They'd rather have debt. There are probably many more, but these spring to mind. Jon Jon, Point 4 you make is also spot on. Most youngsters see it 'A right of passage' to be furnished with a new car on their 18th Birthday, females with a mini cooper (including obligatory private Reg plate), and males with some sort of 'warm' hatch -seat/vw/citroen etc. I had a kh250 (bought with Saturday job money) that I was totally reliant on to get me to work/college/girlfriends/nightschool on, you get quite resourceful when it's your only means of transport!. Finally, and this is my last rant - modernist kids are rubbish for the following reason. On my regular route to work, which involves an earlyish start, I regularly see a woman driving a mid sized, 66 plate Mercedes, in her dressing gown, while she chauffeurs her son round delivering his newspapers!. Now I'm all for teaching them the value of money etc, but it's not a rural location, or anything like one, surely she'd be better just giving him the money, and having an extra hour in bed every morning and saving herself £20+ in diesel every week!!. I blame the parents!!.
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Post by guiri on Dec 5, 2017 0:03:34 GMT 1
well i consider myself well done by as my mum bought me a used mbx50 at 16. the rich kids had the new ts50x.. well out of my league.but i was over the moon.
ive never had a car newer than 10 years old,always spent my money on bikes. i only bought the wife a 4 year old car to keep her out my hair..
kids now expect too much and parents dont teach them to appreciate things.. we were skint when i was a kid.. never expected nowt...
when we did get things they were very well received.
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Post by donkeychomp on Dec 5, 2017 1:05:15 GMT 1
My car is 37 years old...don't want a new one as they all look like jelly moulds to me. Only ever bought one brand new vehicle, an Aprilia RS250 in Chesterfield colours, stolen after 5 days.
Don't have kids myself but some of my friends do, and they are great parents. One in particular springs to mind, young girl, just passed her test and wanted a brand new Fiat 500. Parents point blank refused but loaned her some money to get a very used Citroen Saxo. Now that's good parenting!
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Post by lcyoungboy on Jan 1, 2018 16:52:19 GMT 1
Got best of both worlds..but the triumph street triple R is a really fun bike and really puts a smile on my face similar to the lc 😃 Would love to try the new 765 RS   |
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Post by moist on Jan 1, 2018 21:49:42 GMT 1
Buell 1125cr
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Post by yamrider on Jan 2, 2018 14:38:10 GMT 1
My personal opinion for the lack of youngsters on motorcycles is for a number of reasons: 1) There is more traffic on the roads so it's more dangerous, and there are fewer occasions to open it up a bit safely. Most households are multi car owners now. 2) The existence of speed cameras cannot be got around. 3) The general attitude of Joe public and Plod's to motorbikes. I suspect bike gangs have added to this. 4) Credit. (linked to point 1). We used to ride what we could afford. These days some youngsters sneer at cars over 3 y ars old for their first car. They'd rather have debt. There are probably many more, but these spring to mind. Jon A few very valid points there Jon. a few years ago there was a lot of young lads riding bikes nowadays you watch the guys turning up at bike meets they take their lid off and most of them have grey hair and in their fifties, a sign of the times |
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Post by abar121 on Jan 2, 2018 22:04:45 GMT 1
any big single 4 will put a smile on your face,have had an xt660x, and recently built an nx650 scrambler,which is just as much fun as any lc ive ever owned,and thats a lot    That's cool. Can I ask what tank and seat you used? I've got some old Dommie bits lying around. |
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Post by icarus001 on Jan 3, 2018 15:05:55 GMT 1
a few years ago there was a lot of young lads riding bikes nowadays you watch the guys turning up at bike meets they take their lid off and most of them have grey hair and in their fifties, a sign of the times Back when I was on an LC the first time around (late 80's & early 90's) the average age of the people I met on bikes was under 25yrs old. Nowadays I rarely meet anyone under 40. |
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Post by Tobyjugs on Jan 3, 2018 15:30:13 GMT 1
I know a few young guys and they all want super motards. There are a few out there that want speed with the limited licence and they want old powervalves but these are also creeping up in price here as well.
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Post by seanclarky on Jan 3, 2018 21:41:47 GMT 1
What about the yam xsr700? I've heard good reports and they look good, does anyone have one?
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Post by 0h5h1t on Jan 6, 2018 20:28:51 GMT 1
a few years ago there was a lot of young lads riding bikes nowadays you watch the guys turning up at bike meets they take their lid off and most of them have grey hair and in their fifties, a sign of the times Back when I was on an LC the first time around (late 80's & early 90's) the average age of the people I met on bikes was under 25yrs old. Nowadays I rarely meet anyone under 40. that may be because younger than 40 on a bike usually means they are on a tmax and ride around looking for handbags and mobiles to steal lol on the subject of mopeds, why do yougsters feel the need to pull away as hard as they can and open/close the throttle - is it so it sounds like they are on a bigger bike with a real gearbox perhaps? just a thought lol |
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Post by earthman on Jan 12, 2018 20:26:33 GMT 1
 I've just seen this, in a copy of Classic Motorcycle Mechanics from May 2014,.....so that image of a 'reborn LC' has been around for a good few years now, I've only seen the recent clips on YouTube etc. Anyone got the following months copy of that mag? I wonder what else they said about it?? ![]() |
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Post by copper99 on Jan 12, 2018 20:46:06 GMT 1
Fook all! It wasnt mentioned again, rumour has it, some minor progress has been made but Daryl from IDP Moto(the company that was doing the bike) got sidelined spannering for the young McKenzie in BSS and track day activities, let alone the Pro Am races.. Maybe this year..
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Post by Haggler on Jan 12, 2018 21:01:22 GMT 1
Was out Weds and caught a copy of the free motorcycle paper. Inside on page 3 it metioned a new stroker running a 90 horse engine. No more details and forgot to pick up paper before I left but would be interested to know if it is real. Did anything ever come of that TZ replica for the road? They showed it at Mallory a few years back
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Post by earthman on Jan 13, 2018 10:29:22 GMT 1
Any idea on the 'minor progress'exactly?
Personally I doubt that it would involve using a 2 stroke engine, surely it would have to be a 4 stroke??
I hear that KTM still make a 2 stroke bike, fuel injected but is it road legal or just for off road use??
If Yamaha had to use a 4 stroke engine, do you think that would stop folk buying one?
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Post by copper99 on Jan 13, 2018 19:41:37 GMT 1
Any idea on the 'minor progress'exactly? Personally I doubt that it would involve using a 2 stroke engine, surely it would have to be a 4 stroke?? I hear that KTM still make a 2 stroke bike, fuel injected but is it road legal or just for off road use?? If Yamaha had to use a 4 stroke engine, do you think that would stop folk buying one? This dates back to 2015 mind....Im kinda curious myself now, I may ring Daryll next week. |
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Post by splodgey on Jan 13, 2018 20:29:34 GMT 1
KTM RC 390 .. ample power , Light and nimble with fantastic handling , I would think that this bike would be a fair match for a 350 LC .
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, groom their silly-looking beards and would rather spend their money on another tattoo, because apparently that's what's expected and what the young girls find attractive (but so what)! Men have become just as vain as women I'm afraid (and much more girly).
