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Post by earthman on Oct 30, 2017 12:33:07 GMT 1
Do you all ride/treat your bikes like this? I'm cringing at how often he get's the needle into the red zone and how long he keeps it there,...is it just me?
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Post by arrow on Oct 30, 2017 12:38:42 GMT 1
I used to when I was younger! The best point to change gear is to cog up and then be in the maximum torque range. This is around 1000 revs less than the max horsepower range.
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Post by reedpete on Oct 30, 2017 12:57:59 GMT 1
That’s not a standard engine in that bike! It pulled the wheel up at 11K...so no soft rev limiter and lots of power there.
Race bikes will spend most of their time in the ‘red’ on OEM factory rev counter.
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Post by Tobyjugs on Oct 30, 2017 14:13:29 GMT 1
The man in the video is not so bad as Kees the lad i know. I wont let him ride one of my bike unless it has a rev limiter on it.
When we went on a track day i could only hear the rev limiter cutting in and i set it at 10500 rpm. I have a box full of destroyed pistons and cranks from his 50 cc engines
On the motorway i like to keep the engine between the 6-7000 rpm but i do like to ride like the man in the video to the beginning of the redline on small roads.
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Post by bare on Oct 30, 2017 18:00:36 GMT 1
Nothing odd or abnormal in the ride style.
Hey! I do that every ride (conditions allowing)... it's WHY I own /maintain the damned thing
However IMO :-) there is inaccuracy in that Tach.
For a start..it simply does Not sound like 10k ! let alone 11K.
Tach inaccuracy is typical.. in my experiences.
Needs put a Zeel controller unit on.. then ride. The readout displays actual ignition events.
I found the tachs I compared it to, as from 1000 to 1500 Rpms optimistic !
None were even close.
Solved the problem by setting the Zeel's Rev limiter to 10K Have only actually hit the limiter once!
Where the tach was showing Stupid revs.
Beyond that engine loadings/wear is a rev dependent Geometric progression.
High revs Will eat up one's engine surprisingly faster.
Fun is where one finds it.. just have your fun with eyes open :-)
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Post by lrcarl on Oct 30, 2017 18:27:45 GMT 1
Agree with bare tacho way off
As for riding style on the right road at the right time
Isn’t that what it’s all about?
Carl
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Post by steve h on Oct 30, 2017 22:16:11 GMT 1
Bolloxed tacho..........
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Post by Ozhammer on Oct 31, 2017 0:41:01 GMT 1
That's one of the biggest issues with posting vids of your rides online, pretty much everyone will critique your riding style good or bad.
I have lots of footage from my GoPro but prefer to keep it for my own viewing pleasure.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 31, 2017 6:53:19 GMT 1
Nice one Bare
Concise and to the point as ever
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Post by jon on Oct 31, 2017 8:13:28 GMT 1
That's one of the biggest issues with posting vids of your rides online, pretty much everyone will critique your riding style good or bad. I have lots of footage from my GoPro but prefer to keep it for my own viewing pleasure. That's not the only reason to keep it to yourself in the UK now. Jon |
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Post by earthman on Oct 31, 2017 8:43:08 GMT 1
That's one of the biggest issues with posting vids of your rides online, pretty much everyone will critique your riding style good or bad. I have lots of footage from my GoPro but prefer to keep it for my own viewing pleasure. I'm only questioning his treatment of the engine and wondering if that's normal. I owned two LC's back in the eighties and didn't experience any engine problems with either of them, certainly no engine rebuilds like my mates did. They appeared to not have much/any mechanical sympathy though, I suspect that they rode like that or even worse to be honest. |
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Post by bare on Oct 31, 2017 17:10:16 GMT 1
Still not understanding. (Beyond that bikes' tach reading ridiculously)
The ride style seems 'fine' to me. It's what I do (Conditions allowing).
If that raises eyebrows/concern then perhaps these aren't for You?
Exhilarating performance made the things Attractive Rides in 1980... still does.
Only downside being; Work 'em hard and they do get used up.. So what?
Reasonable price for the enjoyment IMO.
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Post by markhoopy on Oct 31, 2017 17:36:59 GMT 1
However IMO :-) there is inaccuracy in that Tach. For a start..it simply does Not sound like 10k ! let alone 11K. Maybe it's a KMH tacho not a MPH one  |
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Post by earthman on Oct 31, 2017 20:23:52 GMT 1
Still not understanding. (Beyond that bikes' tach reading ridiculously) The ride style seems 'fine' to me. It's what I do (Conditions allowing). If that raises eyebrows/concern then perhaps these aren't for You? Exhilarating performance made the things Attractive Rides in 1980... still does. Only downside being; Work 'em hard and they do get used up.. So what? Reasonable price for the enjoyment IMO. Let me put it this way, would you rev a four stroke engine like that too? Assuming that it's one without a rev limiter, would you keep the needle in the red for any length of time? I do remember the exhilarating when riding these machines but I very rarely felt the need to go into the red zone let alone hold it there, is this the main reason why I never experienced any engine problems? If you personally don't mind blowing up/rebuilding an engine, that's fair enough.  |
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Post by 1966baz on Oct 31, 2017 20:49:37 GMT 1
I reckon he is only hitting 110 mph max , so not a mega quick F2. Sounds nice though and yes definitely Tacho way out.
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Post by jon on Oct 31, 2017 21:05:30 GMT 1
Why does it matter what actual RPM he's hitting? For that matter why does t matter how other people drive on the road?
To be honest the only reason I'd look at the tacho is if I felt I was holding on to a gear too long. You get to know your machine and how much your abusing it. There is no reason to rev it to as far as it will, as the power will have dropped of maybe 1,000 RPM beforehand.
To me if I know the road (no-ones going to pull out on me) and no plod are about; then I might be a little spirited. However I wouldn't risk my or my engine's life to rag it that far.
Fun can be had without blatant mechanical abuse for the sake of kudos on YouTube.
Jon
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Post by earthman on Oct 31, 2017 21:52:58 GMT 1
Why does it matter what actual RPM he's hitting? For that matter why does t matter how other people drive on the road? To be honest the only reason I'd look at the tacho is if I felt I was holding on to a gear too long. You get to know your machine and how much your abusing it. There is no reason to rev it to as far as it will, as the power will have dropped of maybe 1,000 RPM beforehand. To me if I know the road (no-ones going to pull out on me) and no plod are about; then I might be a little spirited. However I wouldn't risk my or my engine's life to rag it that far. Fun can be had without blatant mechanical abuse for the sake of kudos on YouTube. Jon Ah, your last sentence probably sums it up for me. |
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Post by davecroucher57v on Oct 31, 2017 21:54:30 GMT 1
that bike made 62.5 hp b/wheel. 10300rpm electronic taco. 11 years ago.
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Post by shaunthe2nd on Oct 31, 2017 22:06:41 GMT 1
I'm not one for posting vids either, but i think the tacho is well out too and not revving as high as it looks.
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