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Post by veg on Jul 30, 2017 9:58:48 GMT 1
I have recently sold my monster 1200, I'm just going to have the LC. I found I was flat out everywhere on it and I mean nailing it. Now having made it to 48, with only 1 major crash amongst the usual little offs and having been riding constantly since I was 5 or 6 yrs old and always having a decent road bike it was a major step. However I had a huge scare and thought I'm not as young as I was, my reactions aren't as sharp and I'm married with a kid enough is enough. I bought the monster after having a Harley for less than 2 months as they are slow heavy and don't handle and thought I needed a faster bike.
Anyone else realising they don't need 140 bhp or is everyone else far more restrained?
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Post by ellasae on Jul 30, 2017 10:20:45 GMT 1
My R1 very rarely comes out of the garage nowadays, for exactly the same reasons that you mention veg.
I won't sell it though as I like to know that it's there if I want it.
David
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Post by jon on Jul 30, 2017 11:09:59 GMT 1
I have to say that the above reason is the very fact I have never owned a big bike.
I'm more than happy to bumble around the country roads round my way (Medway) on an RD.
Jon
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Post by LC_BOTT on Jul 30, 2017 13:37:24 GMT 1
Same reason I sold mine a few years ago, had a fairly new ZX9R and kept going faster and faster just for the thrill you get at those high speeds. Bought a single cylinder BM (now got the twin) and TBH, I don't really use that, as I have a 'superscoot' that I don't care about, jump on and go work-horse.
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Post by 4l04ever on Jul 30, 2017 15:06:59 GMT 1
I still take my Fireblade out for a thrashing....just not as often as previously, as the LC is running well lately :-)
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Post by ellasae on Jul 30, 2017 17:58:33 GMT 1
Oops , double post.....
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Post by dusty350 on Jul 30, 2017 20:11:56 GMT 1
Last time I opened the taps seriously, was on my Fz1n on a long straight road where I felt it was quite safe. As the speed got serious, I kept thinking what would happen if a car or anything else appeared in front of me from the numerous side turnings into the fields either side. Hence to say I slowed down and poodled home. 31 years in the Fire Service has left an indelible mark on my memory, of what can happen to the human body in an accident, and I've had my fair share of, literally, picking up the pieces after it's all gone wrong  I'm as happy building them nowadays as riding them, probably more so, although I do intend to ride my current bikes, when they are finished. Dusty  |
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Post by veg on Jul 30, 2017 20:56:10 GMT 1
Funnily enough my professional experience of dealing with Rtc's never bothered me, now however once in a while I remember some of them and it makes me slow down.
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Post by steve h on Jul 30, 2017 21:14:11 GMT 1
I just cant be arsed rushing around anymore......too much traffic on the roads now anyway. A pootle around suits me fine...
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Post by bazzer5115 on Jul 30, 2017 21:32:08 GMT 1
I enjoy riding/thrashing my hybrids-tuned ypvs and now a 421 cheetah cub.
I still go far to fast,but mainly when it safe to do so,the speed isn't the problem,inappropriate use of speed is.
Got my favourite roads,know when to slow a little on these.
Couldn't just have ypvs hybrids,as I want a bike I can jump on and ride around Europe,take in a few race meetings etc.So the speed triple is good for that.
Also just bought a off-road bike to do a little green laning with the son in law and his mates.
Didn't want a new one so bought a Suzuki PE175X 1981.
I bought it because I had/raced one back in the day,I can run it on castrol R and if they faster then me I have the excuse of riding a 36 yr old bike😃!
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Post by Deleted on Jul 31, 2017 15:10:47 GMT 1
My GSX1250FA is my big bike ride, it'll do the speed limit in first, but I can tootle around all day doing 60kmh in top if I want to or scratch around some of the local hills at a bit more than the speed limit
Or I can pop the panniers and top box on and go away for a few days touring
It's not too powerful to be scary but has enough grunt to keep the young person in me happy, and I'm 53
The LC2 gets out every two weeks or so and it is still a barrel of fun
I don't need anything more powerful than the Suzi, it suits me to a tee and in my opinion one of the best value bikes for the money out there
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Post by shaunthe2nd on Jul 31, 2017 15:27:49 GMT 1
Can't imagine going back to Fireblades and R1's etc, its so much more fun on a much slower and older LC.
My dodgy back and 9 DVLA points are 2 other good reasons for keeping off the high powered sports bikes too!
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Post by lolly on Jul 31, 2017 16:28:20 GMT 1
I remember back in 1992 I went from a gt250x7 up to a GSXR1100K ; I had never been on a large diesel before ; and at the time I weighed about 9 stone
only here by luck ; the thing handled terribly (not helped by the centre of the tyre worn flat) ; it went where it wanted to go and if you lost confidence half way round a corner it would sit you upright .
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Post by guiri on Jul 31, 2017 17:45:16 GMT 1
same here.. 44 now and just ride round daily on my dt125r. bigger bikes dont get used much..
and as i race an air cooled rd250/350 i get my kicks on track.
wife hates me riding the 350ypvs cause she knows i rag it proper...lol.
john.
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Post by Ozhammer on Aug 1, 2017 2:36:44 GMT 1
For me, having classics allows me to ride slowly enough to enjoy the roads and the scenery and after all, isn't the journey as important as the destination?
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Post by copper99 on Aug 1, 2017 7:47:06 GMT 1
You know, I always think if you have little restraint, it doesnt mattee what the engine size, they can all equally as much get you into bother.
Barrelling down a A road at 120+ on a big , stable good handling modern bike isnt, to me, nowhere near as scary or dangerous as taking an LC at 80-90MPH down a bumpy B road,
The lill 250 KR1 I have without doubt is the most thrilling bike I own but I end up riding it like a nob on smaller roads, so that for me is the most dangerous thing I ride but has the smalllest cc...
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Post by wassy on Aug 1, 2017 8:57:33 GMT 1
I have recently sold my monster 1200, I'm just going to have the LC. I found I was flat out everywhere on it and I mean nailing it. Now having made it to 48, with only 1 major crash amongst the usual little offs and having been riding constantly since I was 5 or 6 yrs old and always having a decent road bike it was a major step. However I had a huge scare and thought I'm not as young as I was, my reactions aren't as sharp and I'm married with a kid enough is enough. I bought the monster after having a Harley for less than 2 months as they are slow heavy and don't handle and thought I needed a faster bike. Anyone else realising they don't need 140 bhp or is everyone else far more restrained? Who bought your Monster ? I've been looking for a good one for a while. |
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Post by lolly on Aug 1, 2017 9:18:59 GMT 1
For me, having classics allows me to ride slowly enough to enjoy the roads and the scenery and after all, isn't the journey as important as the destination? +1 |
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Post by 4l04ever on Aug 1, 2017 9:24:50 GMT 1
For me, having classics allows me to ride slowly enough to enjoy the roads and the scenery and after all, isn't the journey as important as the destination? -1 :-) It is more about how you get there.... |
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Post by wassy on Aug 1, 2017 9:31:29 GMT 1
Scenery........ have you been on a ride out with the North East lads !
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Post by headcoats on Aug 1, 2017 10:00:29 GMT 1
With the state of the roads, having a scrambler for the road makes more sense !
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Post by cbm on Aug 1, 2017 10:41:13 GMT 1
I'd reached nearly 60yrs old before waking up to the fact that I had f*ck all self control when it came to high performance motorcycles, or cars for that matter, and had been a very very lucky boy. No matter how much i convinced myself that i'd go for "a nice steady ride" I'd always end up giving the bike an absolute tonkin so last summer I finally made the heart wrenching decision to part with the Hypermotard i'd had for 6yrs before it parted with me. It's weird but it's the complete opposite when it comes to riding any of my old 2T's, unlike when owning them the 1st time around in the 70's I rarely abuse any of them now |
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Post by earthman on Sept 15, 2017 13:54:20 GMT 1
My GSX1250FA is my big bike ride, it'll do the speed limit in first, but I can tootle around all day doing 60kmh in top if I want to or scratch around some of the local hills at a bit more than the speed limit Or I can pop the panniers and top box on and go away for a few days touring It's not too powerful to be scary but has enough grunt to keep the young person in me happy, and I'm 53 The LC2 gets out every two weeks or so and it is still a barrel of fun I don't need anything more powerful than the Suzi, it suits me to a tee and in my opinion one of the best value bikes for the money out there This is very similar to my way of thinking/riding too, just because my 1200 has X amount of power, don't mean that I have to use it all. I'm surprised by the guys who have sold their 4 strokes (diesel? Why they called that??) and just own a RD350 or similar now. I have fond memories of the ones I owned back in the eighties but once I got a GPZ750, I never looked back,......even if (hopefully) I end up getting one now, it will always be a second bike, I can't imagine that it could fulfill my needs for a large bore sports/touring bike. |
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Post by pistanbroke on Sept 15, 2017 20:21:51 GMT 1
Ive just had my 2015 R1 derestricted , hehe, then again our roads are far quieter than doon south, love my 2ts but bikes are always for giving it large in my opinion, even when I'm out on my bog standard RD250D its gonnae get its assed caned, I see plenty scenery in my car on a wet day
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Post by Deleted on Sept 15, 2017 21:26:29 GMT 1
Big diesels are very very very fast. To ride one to it's full potential you need to be at the TT. Traffic, too many poor car drivers, boy racers, none insured drivers, mobile phones. It all adds up to the public highway being a more dangerous place than it was back in 1977 when I passed my test.
I had several R1's and I rode them pretty quickly. I had a eureka moment 3rd gear on the back wheel that this was a disaster waiting to happen. Pulled in twice on the M-way and managing to talk my way out of it, and no doubt due to "careful" speeding, enough was enough.
I tried a couple of GSXR's recently. It just wasn't fun.
IMO no you don't need 140bhp to have fun. In fact you don't need 100bhp to have fun. What you need is a bike that you are in control of. If that's 5bhp then so be it.
Show me someone that can properly master 140+bhp and I'll show you a TT winner. The rest are just making up the numbers or fooling themselves
And before you say high mileage/comfort/touring an RGV250 will cruise all day at 100mph. NSR's will do 30,000 miles on a crank. Many LC's have high mileage on them.
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Post by andy748 on Sept 15, 2017 21:39:26 GMT 1
I'm 48 and only had one big off in 93, had all the usual race reps, but now have a multi ds 1000s for going out with the wife and the odd blast with the lads, i never do over 90ish any more, there's no point. Now when i'm on the RZ250 i ride like i'm 17 again? I need to calm down on it, but my RGV250 Tyga is again a different story, kind of take my time on it, but maybe it's the money i've got in it and i'm scared of binning it! 80 Horse is enough for anyone nowadays with the state of the roads. Just my two penneth.
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Post by veg on Sept 16, 2017 7:14:21 GMT 1
Sold my ds 1000s last year and regretted it straight away. One of the most underrated bikes out there I would have another loved it. Modern bikes like my 1200 I just don't need 140 bhp anymore riding them like you stole them leads to one of two things licence gone or serious accident.
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Post by dereckerick on Sept 16, 2017 7:15:50 GMT 1
I've got a BMW 1200GSA, bought with intention of camping and doing trips on it. Its a good reset for the mind, just getting off for a few days, tent, sleeping bag etc. I have a stressful job so it's good to cleanse the soul.
Its the only 4T I've ever owned, even when racing, only ever had 2T. As far as speed goes, my opinion is to be a decent fast rider you have to be doing it very often, and as such your are either on a track, or you are on the road and eventually going to kill yourself or someone else. I know from experience, wrote off 3 LC's before quitting road riding and moved to racing, still crashed....(but didn't get hit by cars).
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Post by earthman on Sept 16, 2017 22:50:17 GMT 1
And before you say high mileage/comfort/touring an RGV250 will cruise all day at 100mph. I had one of those back in the nineties for a short while, great little bike performance wise and for thrills but it nearly crippled me, I certainly couldn't tour on it even back then, I'd have zero chance now. Lol |
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Post by mikee on Sept 19, 2017 22:02:49 GMT 1
Mid 50's here , still going fast everywhere on big bikes , still enjoying it , but wifeys started coming out with me , and that slows me down , dunno if I like it yet but makes me think
Lc's are still great fun though and the future I reckon
Mike
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