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Post by bazm60 on Dec 18, 2016 21:47:48 GMT 1
Can you get a two into one pipe? If so can anyone tell me where thanks
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Post by dusty350 on Dec 18, 2016 22:08:58 GMT 1
Hi Yes you can. An Lc owner on a Facebook page fitted one. Don't know how good it is. Think he got it from Japan. I'm sure someone will post a pic.... Dusty  |
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Post by bazm60 on Dec 18, 2016 22:12:22 GMT 1
Thanks dusty
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2-1 pipe
Dec 18, 2016 22:17:27 GMT 1
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Post by veg on Dec 18, 2016 22:17:27 GMT 1
Big no no from performance I believe lack of back pressure etc hence why no factory racer ever had them
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Post by bazm60 on Dec 18, 2016 22:23:10 GMT 1
Just had Gibson come back to me and said Japan
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Post by paulincayman on Dec 18, 2016 22:23:17 GMT 1
I've seen one some where , had two expansion chambers , only connecting at the end can, how do waverunners get away with it, 3cyls .. maybe just missing full potential ..
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Post by Yogi on Dec 18, 2016 22:30:07 GMT 1
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Post by oldelsieboy on Dec 18, 2016 22:31:29 GMT 1
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bazm60
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Post by bazm60 on Dec 18, 2016 22:38:01 GMT 1
Yogi I like that. I know a guy that lives in Japan just message him he just moved to Miami
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Post by dusty350 on Dec 18, 2016 22:44:20 GMT 1
That's the badger !! Been trawling through Facebook and couldn't find it. Well done fellas  Still think a pipe each side suits an Lc best, imo Dusty |
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Post by bazm60 on Dec 18, 2016 22:51:59 GMT 1
May do dusty but it's for my Lambretta with rd engine. Single pipe would look awesome. Found it on eBay now thanks lads
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Post by mattybeckett on Dec 18, 2016 22:53:26 GMT 1
I had one years ago on my gt185 sounded great' but worse performance than the standard pipes.
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Post by dusty350 on Dec 18, 2016 23:22:58 GMT 1
There are some very talented pipe makers around - Kenny (TSA) is a member here as well as Mick Abbey now. Maybe worth speaking to them regards pipes for a unique build like yours. Dusty |
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Post by bare on Dec 19, 2016 1:18:49 GMT 1
A couple of Years Back Slinger designed/built a Single chamber Exp chamber setup.
On Dyno testing I observed, it made low 60's and a Helluvalot of noise.
A dead end when all was said and done.
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Post by markhoopy on Dec 19, 2016 11:54:52 GMT 1
There are some very talented pipe makers around - Kenny (TSA) is a member here as well as Mick Abbey now. Mick has been a member since April 2013 but hasn't made enough posts to see the Classifieds yet |
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Post by tsa on Dec 19, 2016 12:46:00 GMT 1
A couple of Years Back Slinger designed/built a Single chamber Exp chamber setup. On Dyno testing I observed, it made low 60's and a Helluvalot of noise. A dead end when all was said and done. I will correct you here I designed the pipe and slinger built it over there as he had a test mule. We didnt go further with it because he could only test the 1 at the time. I would like to revisit this some time but the 2-1 wont ever perform as a 2-2 will. |
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Post by muttsnuts on Dec 19, 2016 17:46:44 GMT 1
A couple of Years Back Slinger designed/built a Single chamber Exp chamber setup. On Dyno testing I observed, it made low 60's and a Helluvalot of noise. A dead end when all was said and done. I will correct you here I designed the pipe and slinger built it over there as he had a test mule. We didnt go further with it because he could only test the 1 at the time. I would like to revisit this some time but the 2-1 wont ever perform as a 2-2 will. Kenny, my new toy is all operational now, so just shout when you want to test any designs going forward |
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Post by LC_BOTT on Dec 19, 2016 20:36:06 GMT 1
Seen this a few times, sounds lovely to me.
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Post by davey on Dec 19, 2016 21:42:12 GMT 1
Have to agree with lc bott, sounds brill , it as close as i ve heard for ages to my mates piper 3 into 1,on his 400 triple kawa in the 80,s.
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2-1 pipe
Dec 19, 2016 21:46:09 GMT 1
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Post by midlifecrisisrd on Dec 19, 2016 21:46:09 GMT 1
I will correct you here I designed the pipe and slinger built it over there as he had a test mule. We didnt go further with it because he could only test the 1 at the time. I would like to revisit this some time but the 2-1 wont ever perform as a 2-2 will. Kenny, my new toy is all operational now, so just shout when you want to test any designs going forward Did rod message you about the guy from the Tyga factory in Thailand looking for someone with a dyno to help develop a set of pipes for the lc Sounds like a few sets would need to be sent over to test wink,wink Steve |
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2-1 pipe
Dec 19, 2016 21:48:05 GMT 1
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Post by midlifecrisisrd on Dec 19, 2016 21:48:05 GMT 1
I've seen the one slinger did
Looked good with a y piece in the header and a body with cones as normal and a large stinger
Steve
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Post by muttsnuts on Dec 19, 2016 22:27:57 GMT 1
Kenny, my new toy is all operational now, so just shout when you want to test any designs going forward Did rod message you about the guy from the Tyga factory in Thailand looking for someone with a dyno to help develop a set of pipes for the lc Sounds like a few sets would need to be sent over to test wink,wink Steve Hi Steve, yes he has, sent him the exhuast test report I wrote as well so they can have a little read and a think ! Been playing tonight with it, still developing the power dynamo's - making some ground now that I am not having to guess at settings for the ignition points, would be easier if I started with a known ignition curve and bog standard bike rather than a one off special mind ! |
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Post by bare on Dec 19, 2016 22:36:18 GMT 1
Agreed.. a well done/clean bit of workmanship.
Unworthy of the effort expended imo.
Nor... the hours of Dyno time.
Fair assumption that neither Limbach nor Kaaden would not be trying to make One chamber produce coherent Acoustical energy to two cyls.. simultaneously :-).
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2-1 pipe
Dec 20, 2016 18:30:50 GMT 1
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Post by Bertie Wooster on Dec 20, 2016 18:30:50 GMT 1
Mate has 3'1 piper on his kh400 don't no about Pe Performance but sounds nice but looks shite two pipes two exhausts 3pipes 3 exhausts better
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Post by JonW on Dec 21, 2016 0:54:39 GMT 1
Did rod message you about the guy from the Tyga factory in Thailand looking for someone with a dyno to help develop a set of pipes for the lc Sounds like a few sets would need to be sent over to test wink,wink Steve Hi Steve, yes he has, sent him the exhuast test report I wrote as well so they can have a little read and a think !! On the tyga and their own personal Fb pages they had some pics of the first set they did, looked nice... as a lot of their stuff is. The 2-1 i the video sounds good, would defo be interested to try a set (is it a set when its only one pipe?)... |
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Post by Dave B on Dec 21, 2016 10:15:50 GMT 1
The problem is that the high pressure pulse from the opening of the exhaust port of one cylinder arrives back at the other cylinder at a time when the pressure in its exhaust port needs to be low.
The only way that a paralell twin can work well with a 2-1 is by fitting a 360 degree crank, with both cylinders at TDC together.
Three into one pipes on a triple can work if the front pipes are the correct length, since the cylinders fire at 120 degrees, and the return wave can arrive at the next cylinder at an advantageous time.
They can work, and there will be an engine speed at which they work very well- BUT, there will be other revs where they are utterly awful. That's why they can be good in a Snowmobile fitted with CVT transmission- it's basically a constant speed engine.
If you just want the look, fine. If power and rideability interest you, use two pipes.
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Post by bazm60 on Dec 21, 2016 21:14:26 GMT 1
The problem is that the high pressure pulse from the opening of the exhaust port of one cylinder arrives back at the other cylinder at a time when the pressure in its exhaust port needs to be low. The only way that a paralell twin can work well with a 2-1 is by fitting a 360 degree crank, with both cylinders at TDC together. Three into one pipes on a triple can work if the front pipes are the correct length, since the cylinders fire at 120 degrees, and the return wave can arrive at the next cylinder at an advantageous time. They can work, and there will be an engine speed at which they work very well- BUT, there will be other revs where they are utterly awful. That's why they can be good in a Snowmobile fitted with CVT transmission- it's basically a constant speed engine. If you just want the look, fine. If power and rideability interest you, use two pipes. Basically it's for looks as its a Lambretta. Won't be doing 120 on 10" wheels |
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Post by bazm60 on Dec 21, 2016 21:20:14 GMT 1
Hi Steve, yes he has, sent him the exhuast test report I wrote as well so they can have a little read and a think !! On the tyga and their own personal Fb pages they had some pics of the first set they did, looked nice... as a lot of their stuff is. The 2-1 i the video sounds good, would defo be interested to try a set (is it a set when its only one pipe?)... What is tyga was wanting to have a look |
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Post by bazm60 on Dec 21, 2016 21:29:28 GMT 1
A couple of Years Back Slinger designed/built a Single chamber Exp chamber setup. On Dyno testing I observed, it made low 60's and a Helluvalot of noise. A dead end when all was said and done. I will correct you here I designed the pipe and slinger built it over there as he had a test mule. We didnt go further with it because he could only test the 1 at the time. I would like to revisit this some time but the 2-1 wont ever perform as a 2-2 will. I have filled in the contact form on your site |
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Post by ozzysbikes on Dec 21, 2016 21:41:35 GMT 1
Bazm60 google Tyga performance, Japanese tuning firm, lots of quality gear mostly two stroke stuff
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