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Post by alistair64 on May 30, 2015 21:54:36 GMT 1
I've recently ground off the surface rust from underneath the tank on my RD350F1 with the intention of respraying with an aerosol.
It wasn't by any means bad, so I thought if I could find a decent match by putting in 'Silky White' or 'Clean White' into Google, I could probably use an equivalent colour code from a car.
Seeing as it was only the underside of the tank, it wasn't massively important to get an accurate colour match.
However, there's close and there's miles off!
I ended up ordering a 2 stage product for an Audi, which was supposed to be a clean white colour. It's more like yellow!
So...very disappointed. To the credit of the seller, the quality seems good, but I would like a much closer match to the original 'white' colour.
Does anyone know of any paint codes which are readily available which would be close and actually give a clean white colour?
Maybe I'm overlooking just buying the correct paint from Yamaha, but I wouldn't imagine for a minute that it's still available.
Thanks again.
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Post by LC_BOTT on May 30, 2015 22:08:42 GMT 1
Thought I'd read on here a Lexus colour was close, but as it's a 'pearlescent' white, it needs to be 3 stage, (bust you can use any white as the base/undercoat) Have you tried RS paints, approx £15 a can. I used my local sprayers to mix the stuff when I bought some a few years ago. www.rsbikepaint.com/en-gb/colours.phpJust use the drop down menu |
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Post by midlifecrisisrd on May 30, 2015 22:26:12 GMT 1
Used the rs stuff. Exact match but at £15 a tin build up with a base, a candy and a clear coat.
Do you want me to check if I have any left over
Steve
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Post by alistair64 on May 31, 2015 9:58:39 GMT 1
Thanks guys. I didn't know about RS Bike Paint until now.
Having already applied a base coat and top coat, I will only need the candy and clear coat to get the colour right.
Steve, if you have any left over that you don't think you'll need, I'd be interested in giving you a fair price for what you have.
I would imagine I would need roughly half an aerosol's worth of each, but maybe even less, just to give it a couple of coats.
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Post by midlifecrisisrd on May 31, 2015 11:24:23 GMT 1
Thanks guys. I didn't know about RS Bike Paint until now. Having already applied a base coat and top coat, I will only need the candy and clear coat to get the colour right. Steve, if you have any left over that you don't think you'll need, I'd be interested in giving you a fair price for what you have. I would imagine I would need roughly half an aerosol's worth of each, but maybe even less, just to give it a couple of coats. I will look and see what I have got. Couple of light coats is all it needs, any more and it goes too silvery. Be very careful masking the tank. I found the original lacquer so thin it lifted when I took off the masking tape. Steve |
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Post by midlifecrisisrd on May 31, 2015 14:26:12 GMT 1
Just had a look. Unfortunately I only have dregs of silky white and clear coat.
Typically I have base coat and stormy red COB.
The problem with rs paints is they charge 15 quid a tin plus vat plus delivery. I had to do the bottom of a tank and touch up a top fairing so got 2 base, 2 candy and a clear coat and ended up over 100 quid. Never realised the bases were all the same as LC Bott said.
Also some of the paint is water based so you can't sand between coats. Had their solvent and water based and preffered the solvent.
I have used another supplier for my fazer. It was bikepaintermal on ebay although he can be contacted through his "bike colours" website.
On ebay he does a colour and a clear coat for £20.99 so probably cheaper direct.
When I first used the bike colours stuff I thought it was slightly darker and the clear coat took a few weeks to properly harden but I must admit looking at it now it is over a year old you cannot tell where it has been touched up so a perfect match.
Hope that helps
Steve
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Post by billyboy on May 31, 2015 20:27:05 GMT 1
Thought I'd read on here a Lexus colour was close, but as it's a 'pearlescent' white, it needs to be 3 stage, (bust you can use any white as the base/undercoat) Have you tried RS paints, approx £15 a can. I used my local sprayers to mix the stuff when I bought some a few years ago. www.rsbikepaint.com/en-gb/colours.phpJust use the drop down menu would be very suprised if you could use any white as the first base coat , in my experience the pearl coat is translucent and won't correct the wrong colour base , is this not the case ? |
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Post by alistair64 on May 31, 2015 20:43:21 GMT 1
Just had a look. Unfortunately I only have dregs of silky white and clear coat. Typically I have base coat and stormy red COB. The problem with rs paints is they charge 15 quid a tin plus vat plus delivery. I had to do the bottom of a tank and touch up a top fairing so got 2 base, 2 candy and a clear coat and ended up over 100 quid. Never realised the bases were all the same as LC Bott said. Also some of the paint is water based so you can't sand between coats. Had their solvent and water based and preffered the solvent. I have used another supplier for my fazer. It was bikepaintermal on ebay although he can be contacted through his "bike colours" website. On ebay he does a colour and a clear coat for £20.99 so probably cheaper direct. When I first used the bike colours stuff I thought it was slightly darker and the clear coat took a few weeks to properly harden but I must admit looking at it now it is over a year old you cannot tell where it has been touched up so a perfect match. Hope that helps Steve Thanks for looking anyway, I appreciate it. I agree that the price RS Paints charge is steep...since my last post I put the 2 colours into their web-site (silky white and lacquer aerosols) and it came to £42.60 inc. VAT and delivery!! A tad too much for 2 aerosols, however close it might look. Therefore I'll have a look at Bike Colours and cheers for your recommendation. |
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Post by edwin on May 31, 2015 20:53:18 GMT 1
I bought paint of RS to repaint my old CBR1000FJ - it was a lot of money as I recall but it was top notch stuff and the finish was fantastic.
That was pearlescent white and it came out spot on.
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Post by alistair64 on May 31, 2015 20:53:56 GMT 1
Thought I'd read on here a Lexus colour was close, but as it's a 'pearlescent' white, it needs to be 3 stage, (bust you can use any white as the base/undercoat) Have you tried RS paints, approx £15 a can. I used my local sprayers to mix the stuff when I bought some a few years ago. www.rsbikepaint.com/en-gb/colours.phpJust use the drop down menu would be very suprised if you could use any white as the first base coat , in my experience the pearl coat is translucent and won't correct the wrong colour base , is this not the case ? Interesting...not sure tbh, but most paint suppliers do say to use the correct basecoat. If I was attempting to spray anything which was visible, I'd definitely want to use the correct basecoat, but as it's the underside of the tank I'll accept a slight variation in the colour match. So yes I agree... generally I don't think using any white as the basecoat would necessarily work. |
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Post by midlifecrisisrd on May 31, 2015 22:50:29 GMT 1
I agree with edwin that the rs stuff is top notch and the finish it gave was fantastic but us top dollar
When it comes to the base coats I bought a tin for the white and a tin for the red as they had different numbers but in using them they are exactly the same and just looked like white primer.
Steve
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Post by LC_BOTT on Jun 1, 2015 7:52:15 GMT 1
Maybe I was incorrect, what I meant was the primer could be any cheap stuff, the 'base' is the pearlescent white, and the lacquer is clear, so in reality it could also be a cheaper version. (u-pol or pro-xl etc )
please correct me if wrong, as I've only done one complete respray, to see if it was as 'easy' as I thought.
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Post by midlifecrisisrd on Jun 1, 2015 8:19:19 GMT 1
Maybe I was incorrect, what I meant was the primer could be any cheap stuff, the 'base' is the pearlescent white, and the lacquer is clear, so in reality it could also be a cheaper version. (u-pol or pro-xl etc ) please correct me if wrong, as I've only done one complete respray, to see if it was as 'easy' as I thought. I used a zinc primer from Halfords as I was not paying another £18 for rs primer. The cans I had (as rs advised) were as followa 1 - zinc primer 2 - white base 3 - silky white COB (candy over base) 4 - clear coat The candy is the translucent/pearlescent. Doing the silky white was quite easy as very transparent so a sightly heavier coat on a part made little difference to the colour but as you say if the base was lighter/darker it would affect the outcome drastically. The stormy red is a bit more tricky as it is gets more opaque with more coats and you can't really see the end result till the clear coat is applied so bit of guessing. Suppose it would not be so critical if doing the complete bike but if trying to match a panel it is tricky. Don't get me wrong, I ain't no painter, just what I experienced Steve |
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Post by billyboy on Jun 1, 2015 20:51:09 GMT 1
u-pol primers are quality products and have used the etch primer many times with good results
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