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Post by fras1966lc on Feb 19, 2015 16:59:03 GMT 1
Hi All,
New comer just been reunited with a 81 350lc thirty years since my last true love, looking forward to getting her back to mint condition and taking pride and place in my garage already to use in the summer. Can anyone recommend what's the best 2 stroke oil to use now as it has been a long time since I have needed any.
Many Thanks
Fras
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Post by mark350lc on Feb 19, 2015 17:11:09 GMT 1
You'll probably get a few different answers here. Everyone has their own preference. Mine is Putoline TTX
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Post by skydemon on Feb 19, 2015 17:29:12 GMT 1
Mine is Motul. good enough for MotoGP good enough for me LOL
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Post by looey on Feb 19, 2015 18:00:46 GMT 1
I'm on my 2nd 5L of this Exol oil, using it in lots of different bikes. Only thing I will say is, it's very runny !, so if you've got any dodgy oil pump seals, it will seek them out.....lol Shortly after I filled my YPVS up with it, the oil pump seal failed and it dumped a load into the gearbox. Could have been coincidence, as I changed the oil seal and it's been fine ever since with that oil in it. It's suitable for premix and pump, so always a bonus  |
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Post by 2R9 on Feb 19, 2015 20:04:54 GMT 1
Used this exol oil in my rd400e all last summer with no problems at all. |
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Post by davey on Feb 19, 2015 20:06:22 GMT 1
Motul 710 is what i use bit pricey but a good spec
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Post by t0m4 on Feb 19, 2015 20:25:18 GMT 1
I used to use Castrol R in my 350 YPVS back in 1993 loved the smell, dont know if you can still get it.
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Post by arrow on Feb 19, 2015 20:27:56 GMT 1
Look on the back of the bottle. Anything JASO FC or JASO FD is what you are looking for.
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Post by dave1963 on Feb 19, 2015 20:40:37 GMT 1
Hi iam on my third 5 litre bottle of exol oil had no problems at all with this
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Post by pistanbroke on Feb 19, 2015 20:43:12 GMT 1
If its of correct spec (see Arrows post) my only other thing is it must be red lol, cos I like the colour in my clear lines |
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Post by liffy16 on Feb 19, 2015 20:48:38 GMT 1
If its of correct spec (see Arrows post) my only other thing is it must be red lol, cos I like the colour in my clear lines silkolene pro2 is red |
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Post by eddyale on Feb 19, 2015 22:25:49 GMT 1
I'm a big fan of putoline always used it in all my two strokes
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Post by 4l04ever on Feb 19, 2015 23:05:09 GMT 1
I use the Exol Fully Synthetic stuff. Got a 25 litre drum to get through :-)
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Post by sp885 on Feb 19, 2015 23:25:33 GMT 1
The guy I bought my LC off, gave me a couple of 1L bottles of Yamalube R, I also bought a 4L bottle of Castrol TTS for it, if I ever get to ride this bike I'm sure either will be fine, although the Yamalube R is only semi synthetic, where the TTS is fully synthetic
Steve
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Post by Delbert on Feb 20, 2015 8:17:40 GMT 1
Hi & welcome to the board !
As mentioned lots of people's choices , personally I use shell advanced tried & tested by a teenager who failed to blow up his dtr 125 , good enough for him , good enough for me ,, plus I can get it for £6 a ltr
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Post by jon on Feb 20, 2015 8:58:10 GMT 1
As Arrow said it's more about the grade than the make. You'll always get brand loyalty though, if a certain make has caused you no trouble over the years. That said I'd rather stick to one brand if topping up a system with some oil remaining in it.
2 stroke oil is not the holy grail of stopping an engine blowing up. Even with the best/most expensive oil will not stop a badly setup or worn/broken engine/cooling system seizing.
I seem to remember a bike magazine running an article on the different petrol stations oil, and Shell came out top. Worth bearing in mind if you are somewhere out of bike shop opening hours.
Also I assume you are running a pump? If so I was under the impression that semi synthetic or natural oils (such as Castrol R) could cause problems with the natural elements 'growing' and blocking up oil-ways. Arrow may be able to confirm this? I remember Castrol R used for racing back in the day, but I bet it was premix.
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Post by fozzy17 on Feb 20, 2015 9:25:15 GMT 1
I used to use Castrol R in my 350 YPVS back in 1993 loved the smell, dont know if you can still get it. Same here, its the smell of a man that is, you can still get it, but its called something else now, its what I use. |
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Post by oldelsieboy on Feb 20, 2015 9:37:54 GMT 1
Rock Oil PP2
OEB
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Post by mannanan on Feb 20, 2015 10:20:44 GMT 1
Exol Optima Racing 2 Stroke Oil.
I read the spec, read the reviews and concluded it had to be done. Ordered 5 litres last August from Lube Tech, the official distributors, and with 10% discount code it worked out at £29.03 (£5.80 litre). Mug not to .... and it's red in colour.
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Post by arrow on Feb 20, 2015 13:14:12 GMT 1
As Arrow said it's more about the grade than the make. You'll always get brand loyalty though, if a certain make has caused you no trouble over the years. That said I'd rather stick to one brand if topping up a system with some oil remaining in it. 2 stroke oil is not the holy grail of stopping an engine blowing up. Even with the best/most expensive oil will not stop a badly setup or worn/broken engine/cooling system seizing. I seem to remember a bike magazine running an article on the different petrol stations oil, and Shell came out top. Worth bearing in mind if you are somewhere out of bike shop opening hours. Also I assume you are running a pump? If so I was under the impression that semi synthetic or natural oils (such as Castrol R) could cause problems with the natural elements 'growing' and blocking up oil-ways. Arrow may be able to confirm this? I remember Castrol R used for racing back in the day, but I bet it was premix. Castor based 'R' type oils are fantastic lubricants, but they lack all the important additives of a dedicated 2T oil. I have seen one pump destroyed by castor oil due to corrosion damage. There is also no corrosion protection for the motor when its standing idle and particularly in damp conditions. |
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Post by steven on Feb 20, 2015 14:23:55 GMT 1
Hi, Found this in the garage from way back when.  |
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Post by arrow on Feb 20, 2015 14:33:36 GMT 1
Arrow does 100% synthetic have less protection over semi synth. when the bike is idle ? When I changed from semi to full synth I noticed the carbs and especially the brass fittings went a bit more scaly  ALL oils that have a dedicated 2T spec have excellent anti corrosive properties. The base ingredient of the oil should have no affect at all. |
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Post by arrow on Feb 20, 2015 14:35:44 GMT 1
Hi, Found this in the garage from way back when. Nice one! Any spec on those old bottles? Don't think there was, may be API summat'. |
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Post by steven on Feb 20, 2015 16:42:30 GMT 1
Hi Arrow,
It is in the garage, I will have a look over the weekend and let you know.
Im not going to the garage just now as it was SNOWING 30 minutes ago !
....while your on the line so to speak arrow, what are your thoughts on this matter ?
How many sizes should you go up on your main jets when running on premix ?... some say one some say two.
My 4L0 is on pemix, and I ran it in, and toodled about on it last year with 240 main jets in it, which was me deliberately intending to make it too rich as a starting point for my main jets.
The plugs are showing that it is too rich, as expected, so I have just bought 230 main jets from Granbys, and will try them and see how it goes.
I was just intriuged to hear what your views on the subject were ?
Sorry for jumping in on your thread, I used the semi synthetic halfords stuff to run it in on, but will be putting something better in this year.
cheers,
steven.
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Post by arrow on Feb 20, 2015 17:45:18 GMT 1
Hi Steven, I am no expert on rejetting for premix, but have also heard of one or two sizes up. Its one of those trial and error things that can be made correct with a bit of tinkering.
Snowing! Where are you based?
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Post by looey on Feb 20, 2015 17:54:33 GMT 1
Arrow does 100% synthetic have less protection over semi synth. when the bike is idle ? When I changed from semi to full synth I noticed the carbs and especially the brass fittings went a bit more scaly You could try riding it occasionally.....   |
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Post by simoniz on Feb 22, 2015 4:14:31 GMT 1
I ran my tuned 375LC on that Esso 2T oil for ages, and never had a problem with it when I lived in the UK.
I run my 2 strokes here in the USA on plain old Honda 2T oil.
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Post by yazza54 on Feb 22, 2015 8:39:49 GMT 1
Question for those in the know... Oil wise am I best running in on semi synth then changing to fully synth when run in?? I've heard this is the case but don't know for sure... I've got some of this to run in on as my mate stocks it  |
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Post by Delbert on Feb 22, 2015 10:01:19 GMT 1
Yes I would run it in on semi syn as it gives the rings better chance to bed in to the bores ,, personnaly I run mine on semi all the time
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Post by alexx on Feb 22, 2015 17:18:29 GMT 1
This Exol is very cheap in Germany I see on the ebay.de ..
Im usig Motul semi synth (old name was 600, now 710) for many many years, ..
SO I had once had a sprint from France to The Netherlands, in one day 1100km on my F2, the engine was turning appx 8000rpm for hours .. no problems at all. Hail Motul !
Alex
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