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Post by shane250 on Oct 2, 2013 20:51:45 GMT 1
Whats the best way of sorting main stand pin play? The holes in the frame are worn.
Is there any sleeve available so that you can drill out the holes back to round? |
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Post by arrow on Oct 2, 2013 21:00:58 GMT 1
I welded the pin to the frame lugs. Figured that if I kept it lubed the bigger 'bearing' area of the stand itself would last a very long time. No regrets 2 years later. Its a well known weak point on Lc's.
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Post by shane250 on Oct 2, 2013 21:07:18 GMT 1
Not the answer i expected but i suppose that would do it  Id prefer that i could sort something a little less perminant but if not then so be it. Thanks!! |
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Post by arrow on Oct 2, 2013 22:23:49 GMT 1
I like to look at it as a permanent repair  . If it ever needs sorting again I will chop the frame tube out and start again. Its a replacement tube anyway, the original one had only one lug left on it. Here is a decent pic of how the bike should sit when on the centre stand. The gap between the back tyre and the ground is about 1.5"~2". If the set up is in bad condition then the tyre is on the ground, and the bit where you put your foot is often seen to touch the ground as the stand 'leans' back more.  |
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Post by shane250 on Oct 2, 2013 22:50:33 GMT 1
I wasnt sure what you meant with the frame tube i thought i was missing something but i can see what you mean looking at a picture.you meant cutting the whole thing out of the frame and welding in another? Seems a little drastic but def another option  |
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Post by ulsta on Oct 2, 2013 23:03:53 GMT 1
I was thinking of welding on a couple of washers to the top flat part of my centre stand, so lifting the bike up slightly. It only needs to be 1 or 2mm thick(on my bike anyway)
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Post by arrow on Oct 2, 2013 23:13:41 GMT 1
I was thinking of welding on a couple of washers to the top flat part of my centre stand, so lifting the bike up slightly. It only needs to be 1 or 2mm thick(on my bike anyway) Many people do that but it doesn't cure the underlying problem. |
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Post by shane250 on Oct 2, 2013 23:14:18 GMT 1
They tend to sit low then?
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Post by arrow on Oct 2, 2013 23:19:06 GMT 1
They tend to sit low then? The holes in the lugs wear at the bottom. In my photo the top of the stand would be more to the right and the bottom of the stand would be more to the left. This reduces the height and the bike sits lower. |
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Post by shane250 on Oct 2, 2013 23:21:48 GMT 1
Thanks!
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Post by carioca656 on Oct 3, 2013 10:13:17 GMT 1
drill the holes out and fit a tube in wouldn't that work?
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Post by shane250 on Oct 3, 2013 11:15:19 GMT 1
i thought there might be a tube avaiable as this is obviously a common issue but it seems not.
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Post by ulsta on Oct 3, 2013 18:32:53 GMT 1
Well there's a business opportunity for you, you could make millions selling them ;-)
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Post by jon on Oct 3, 2013 20:14:42 GMT 1
If it were mine, I would do it one of two ways.
1) Weld up the elongated holes and drill back to standard. This is obviously leaves the frame needing recoating. But is the best long term solution, and should be the only choice during a complete refurb.
2) Get some parts machined. A couple of top hat washers, and a longer pivot bolt. Easy for me to say as I have a lathe. However consider asking someone how much this would cost.
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Post by shane250 on Oct 3, 2013 20:19:19 GMT 1
How much would it cost? |
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Post by arrow on Oct 3, 2013 21:05:08 GMT 1
If it were mine, I would do it one of two ways. 1) Weld up the elongated holes and drill back to standard. This is obviously leaves the frame needing recoating. But is the best long term solution, and should be the only choice during a complete refurb. 2) Get some parts machined. A couple of top hat washers, and a longer pivot bolt. Easy for me to say as I have a lathe. However consider asking someone how much this would cost. Both sound engineering idea's there, but when the exhausts are on the bike there is VERY little clearance even when using the standard pivot pin. |
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Post by jon on Oct 3, 2013 21:40:57 GMT 1
My stand pivot is close, but not close enough to not use a 2mm or so spacer.
I'm using Allspeeds though, so could be more clearance?
I can't believe they are that tight as standard not to allow another 2mm.
If I get time I'll look at my mates standard LC.
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Post by arrow on Oct 4, 2013 0:04:34 GMT 1
My stand pivot is close, but not close enough to not use a 2mm or so spacer. I'm using Allspeeds though, so could be more clearance? I can't believe they are that tight as standard not to allow another 2mm. If I get time I'll look at my mates standard LC. Hi Jon, this is why I welded the pin to the lugs. The bearing area of the stand is much greater than the original set up using the bearing area of the lugs, so therefore much longer lasting. On my bike a hacksaw cut on the stand tube was enough difference for me to have to grind some material off the end of the pivot pin to avoid catching the standard pipes. |
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. If it ever needs sorting again I will chop the frame tube out and start again. Its a replacement tube anyway, the original one had only one lug left on it. Here is a decent pic of how the bike should sit when on the centre stand. The gap between the back tyre and the ground is about 1.5"~2". If the set up is in bad condition then the tyre is on the ground, and the bit where you put your foot is often seen to touch the ground as the stand 'leans' back more.
