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Post by garywint on Aug 4, 2013 14:33:14 GMT 1
Hello to everybody, first time here. Whats happened I'm a forty odd guy and I've just bought a 350LC? I passed test 25 years ago but not been riding last 10 years I've always fancied this model or rather RD350LC 4L0 as I know now the prefix VIN codes info so to cut a long story short it's a 4L1 with matching 4L1 on documents but is now a 347cc on the V5 from 247cc around '92. I collect it next week is in for MOT and I haven't checked physical chassis / engine numbers (stupid I know). I assume if OK then original engine has been increased. If not OK......anything of course. I have some V5 history in photocopies and some MOTs;
An oddity is on V5
VIN / chassis no. 4L103xxxx. (is9digits)
Engine no. 4L13xxxx. (is 8digits)
From photocopy this is on very first V5 right up to the one I have.
On MOT to 2001 VIN is 4L1-3xxxx handwritten.
Then on green MOT is 4L103xxxx
Overall excellent condition. Cost me £2500-£3000 at the time I didn't realise significance? Is it just LCs that get this more?
I'm sorry to post this first. I was looking forward to this bike so much but not now.
I would SO appreciate anyone's comments before I collect it. Perhaps but back to 250cc? I know there are slight differences in 250 and 350 as well as engine.
I hope my next post is of lighter subject and thanks to anyone in advance if they have a short moment to make an observation.
Regards, Gary
RD350LC or maybe not!
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Post by midlifecrisisrd on Aug 4, 2013 14:41:40 GMT 1
Hi,
4L1 started as a 250 LC which is the same bottom end as 350 so if you change the oil pump, top end, carbs and exhausts the engine is the same other than the number prefix.
4L0 bikes are worth more but if it is in really good nick then up to 3k ish is fine. Other things different are twin horns, and twin discs along with the rear wheel being different ( 250 has no cush drive)
Still worth more as a 350 even if converted especially if 350 on doc. If I remember right the numbers difference is normal.
Steve
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Post by garywint on Aug 4, 2013 15:03:39 GMT 1
Thanks Steve I'm feeling better already! Apparently this is what was done recently 1150 miles ago.
Full engine rebuild including crank/ pistons. Powder coated casings
Beautiful deep black respray with new decals.
Chrome swinging arm/ polished forklegs.Chrome radiator guard.Chrome chain guard.Chrome side stand.
Goodrich brake hoses.
New battleaxe tyres and tubes. New pads/ shoes.
New electric loom ( no niggles whatsoever)
Micron fork brace
New seat cover
Allspeed pipes and airbox.
What do you reckon? Gary
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Post by dex46 on Aug 4, 2013 15:25:29 GMT 1
Hi Gary
Is this the one what is on ebay for £2600 if so I was very tempted in buying it but came across a bargain 31k ypvs the seller did say in the advert about sticking throttle slide so if this is the bike give it a good check mate before you ride it but on the plus side I think its worth the money also about the number's best check them yourself when you pick up as sometime's DVLA do make mistake's and miss a number off both number's should start 4L1 and im 99% sure the first digit on the number is alway's a 0
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Post by wallcraft on Aug 4, 2013 15:30:17 GMT 1
I would say you've got your self a lovely looking bike there worth every ££. So what if it started as a 250 its a 350 now and that's what you wanted.
Enjoy. To many people get hung up about matching numbers etc...
Mark
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Post by dex46 on Aug 4, 2013 15:35:05 GMT 1
+1 Mark don't understand all the fuss about matching No's build it ride it and enjoy it end of the day it's still a Lc
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Post by garywint on Aug 4, 2013 15:35:07 GMT 1
I don't know if it was on EBay but the bike was local he was selling it in with his main business goods.
The garage whos got it for MOT service is a friend and will check the whole thing over LCs are his thing.
Thanks for asking,
Gary
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Post by kevsypvs on Aug 4, 2013 15:36:04 GMT 1
yeh I couldn't give a monkeys about matchin numbers ,not as if they make the bike any better or faster
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Post by wallcraft on Aug 4, 2013 15:37:41 GMT 1
Forgot to say I have a 175mx I'm restoring with a 0 missing on the chassis number on the v5, common DVLA mishap.
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Post by dex46 on Aug 4, 2013 15:38:08 GMT 1
If it is mate ride and enjoy as a buying a dog and building it to this standard will cost you way more than what you have payed
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Post by garywint on Aug 4, 2013 15:41:49 GMT 1
Yeah, your all correct I think. Panic over!
Just got to get a jacket to suit the bike. Any ideas on style?? I,ve got my old traditional sort of plain highish leather boots and new Kevlar Jeans.
I'll shut up after this until I bring the bike back!
Thanks all.
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Post by dex46 on Aug 4, 2013 15:48:42 GMT 1
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Post by arrow on Aug 4, 2013 15:55:29 GMT 1
Welcome in matey, enjoy your bike.
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Post by lcyoungboy on Aug 4, 2013 17:03:45 GMT 1
Like most the lads say matching numbers don't really matter..ride it like you stole it  |
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Post by molegripper on Aug 4, 2013 17:06:09 GMT 1
If it is mate ride and enjoy as a buying a dog and building it to this standard will cost you way more than what you have payed Exactly...as I have discovered twice.... |
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Post by mick858 on Aug 4, 2013 17:52:29 GMT 1
Hi Gary,
If it's the one in the link that dex46 put on then I'd say you got yourself a very nice looking LC there. Hope you enjoy it.
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Post by fatfastroger on Aug 4, 2013 19:49:47 GMT 1
Cracking bike, welcome to the forum. Matching numbers for the anoraks! ;-)
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Post by midlifecrisisrd on Aug 4, 2013 20:33:31 GMT 1
Forgot to say I have a 175mx I'm restoring with a 0 missing on the chassis number on the v5, common DVLA mishap. That's what I meant with being normal, have heard the first zero missed out. Best thing is that the numbers on the bike are right and the vin on the V5 is right. Will be fine as is but if it niggles you there is no problem changing the engine number, I have changed mine twice as I put different engines in. Just sent the V5 off with the new ( correct ) engine number and it will come back correct. It's the capacity that can cause problems and the vin cannot be changed. Think you have a good buy there and as others say the matching numbers ( which lets face it you actually have ) ain't important to people. It's a decent LC and that's what matters. Steve |
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Post by stfocus on Aug 4, 2013 21:13:31 GMT 1
Hi and welcome to the forum the bike looks good and the colour is good to
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Post by davey on Aug 4, 2013 23:06:08 GMT 1
Hi gary and welcome,
You must check not just the pump but the pump drive they are different for the 250 to the 350.
I think the 350 has a courser worm drive than the 250 but if im wrong somone will be along to confirm this
Dave
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Post by arrow on Aug 4, 2013 23:44:05 GMT 1
Hi gary and welcome, You must check not just the pump but the pump drive they are different for the 250 to the 350. I think the 350 has a courser worm drive than the 250 but if im wrong somone will be along to confirm this Dave Correct Sir. |
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Post by yamaha341 on Aug 5, 2013 0:32:48 GMT 1
hello new here too just read about the oil pump being different are there different pump outputs on the 250 and 350 how do you tell
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Post by yamaha341 on Aug 5, 2013 0:33:52 GMT 1
hello re pump output are there numbers on the pumps
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Post by yamaha341 on Aug 5, 2013 0:36:07 GMT 1
good your now sorted and at ease with your 250/350 Lc ,,,,as these guys say whats it matter there only numbers and the only numbers that really matter are the power numbers
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Post by yamaha341 on Aug 5, 2013 0:37:55 GMT 1
man this is gettin bizarre now am reading the drive is different how do I tell the drive is it the teeth cheers
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Post by yamaha341 on Aug 5, 2013 0:40:52 GMT 1
sorry, half of that post went awol I was still on about the oil pump<<< I am led to believe the pump and the drive now differ is it the pump worm thats got more or less teeth or the pump drive thats got more or less teeth thanks again
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Post by midlifecrisisrd on Aug 5, 2013 9:26:38 GMT 1
sorry, half of that post went awol I was still on about the oil pump<<< I am led to believe the pump and the drive now differ is it the pump worm thats got more or less teeth or the pump drive thats got more or less teeth thanks again 250 worm = 7 turns 350 worm = 5 turns read the warning topic in the technical section as it will tell you how to tell without stripping. Steve |
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Post by hooligan on Aug 5, 2013 19:15:32 GMT 1
My current LC was built from the parts of three different bikes. The end result was gorgeous and I am just happy to have a minty LC to ride. Don't give a damn about what numbers are on it.
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