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Post by icarus001 on Jul 19, 2013 22:54:56 GMT 1
Thinking about having a set made, I know the man himself will be dead busy so I don't want to mither him with a phone call when at the moment its just a consideration, so just wondered who here has them and what you reckon? I want something modern looking with a high sweep, my Microns are really low and run along the line of the swingarm, which makes it look dated in my opionion.
And what sort of price does he charge, my bike never sees rain, so no need for stainles and I want carbon cans.
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Post by marsbar350 on Jul 19, 2013 23:41:17 GMT 1
ive got them on mine mild steel and then nickel plated had carbon cans on.but too noisy for prolonged use 110db upped the power by 10bhp.look good,sound good cost @£480 with carbon cans.waiting list,i dont know better than the piddly allspeeds and microns
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Post by botty on Jul 19, 2013 23:52:32 GMT 1
Kenny has just fitted a pair of his stainless pipes to my bike.
Contacted him via email 2 weeks later pipes were done.
Maybe I was lucky. Give him a call you never know. Much faster than Gibson.
Very friendly geezer. Good to deal with
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Post by Deleted on Jul 20, 2013 0:38:54 GMT 1
Andy so your pipes were £480 plus £280 for the nickel plating doing and then £60 for new end cans £820. Bleeding expensive them fockers
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Post by steeley on Jul 20, 2013 5:55:43 GMT 1
kennys pipes any day .they look good, but best of all its a bolt on power gain .I had a pair of modified tzr 250 pipes on my tzr 350 they were ok ,heavy and I thought they didn't perform to bad.took the bike to Kenny and he sorted some pipes for me.when I got the bike back and had a ride round I found out right away my lash up was crap.
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Post by seahorse83 on Jul 20, 2013 7:33:21 GMT 1
I have had a set of TSA's Kenny's stainless pipes/carbon cans on my ypvs in Australia for about a year now, another mate here has a pair on a 421, I have had ARROWS, in the past, and still have a perfect pair of 31k originals hanging up in the shed. Have ridden bikes with TRUSA pipes and JL's.
Kenny's are pricey but the old saying rings true, you get what you pay for. I have read a lot of Dyno comparisons, and my interpretation from what i've read and what i've experienced is that they not only perform as well or if not better than any, but they are a work of art to look at.
You only live once, if you want them, buy them, you will not be disappointed. If I was strapped for cash and could not afford a set of Kenny's, then my next choice would be Jim Lomas stainless.
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Post by marsbar350 on Jul 20, 2013 8:08:03 GMT 1
£480 with carbon cans is a good price for any pipes.gibson allspeeds arent far off that.these are custom made.proven power increase pipes.it was my choice to have them nickel plated as they go well with the marsbar colour scheme. to buy decent carbon cans on there own your looking at well over £100
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Post by Deleted on Jul 20, 2013 8:50:00 GMT 1
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Post by icarus001 on Jul 20, 2013 9:19:23 GMT 1
£480 with carbon cans is a good price for any pipes.gibson allspeeds arent far off that.these are custom made.proven power increase pipes.it was my choice to have them nickel plated as they go well with the marsbar colour scheme. to buy decent carbon cans on there own your looking at well over £100 I'm not bothered about nickel plating, in fact I'm not that keen on the chrome/nickel finish, I prefer black or plain steel. So price wise its £480 for brand new pipes and carbon cans?
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Post by muttsnuts on Jul 20, 2013 12:58:14 GMT 1
if you look up the write ups I've done on mid-range improvements etc, what you will find is that I put Kenny's pipes on my bike which was just hoovering around the 50bhp mark and immediately gained 4bhp without jetting, the bike was running lean wit them fitted and would definately give more power than that for sure once jetted correctly, mid-range came up as well.
I rate Kenny's pipes that much that I have bitten the bullet and ordered a set so that I can continue with my work, using his pipes as the defacto pipes going forward as my allspeeds are holding the work back at 50bhp, Kenny's will allow me to take it as far as I can with what I am doing.
In due course and subject to me gathering enough exhausts types up, I will be doing an exhaust "shoot out" using my bike with all of them, that way we know we are comparing the exhausts and not different states of tune, tweaks etc on a various bikes. From the initial testing I've done so far, I am pretty sure Kenny's pipes are going to come out the best all round pipe as I am not just testing for max bhp, but also and most crucially mid-range and bottom end pull etc
If you an set of exhausts that improves the bikes all round performance then you won;t go far wrong with a set of his pipes, once set up correctly, your bike will be transformed - ask Andy (marsbar350), after I'd set his up on the dyno it was a very different bike to what it was when it arrived - his gains where very impressive
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Post by stuboy on Jul 20, 2013 13:14:20 GMT 1
Pipe on a 1980's bike looking dated ? LOL
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Post by Deleted on Jul 20, 2013 13:15:34 GMT 1
if you look up the write ups I've done on mid-range improvements etc, what you will find is that I put Kenny's pipes on my bike which was just hoovering around the 50bhp mark and immediately gained 4bhp without jetting, the bike was running lean wit them fitted and would definately give more power than that for sure once jetted correctly, mid-range came up as well. I rate Kenny's pipes that much that I have bitten the bullet and ordered a set so that I can continue with my work, using his pipes as the defacto pipes going forward as my allspeeds are holding the work back at 50bhp, Kenny's will allow me to take it as far as I can with what I am doing. In due course and subject to me gathering enough exhausts types up, I will be doing an exhaust "shoot out" using my bike with all of them, that way we know we are comparing the exhausts and not different states of tune, tweaks etc on a various bikes. From the initial testing I've done so far, I am pretty sure Kenny's pipes are going to come out the best all round pipe as I am not just testing for max bhp, but also and most crucially mid-range and bottom end pull etc If you an set of exhausts that improves the bikes all round performance then you won;t go far wrong with a set of his pipes, once set up correctly, your bike will be transformed - ask Andy (marsbar350), after I'd set his up on the dyno it was a very different bike to what it was when it arrived - his gains where very impressive I rode andys bike just before it was set up on the dyno and again straight after and the difference was just amazing like a different bike, just proves you can spend a fortune getting new exhausts etc but if its not set up properly on a dyno then you aren't getting the best from it. Plus you know then that you can red line it and know its not running weak at the top end ready to hole a piston. And yes dave set my pwk28's up on the dyno on the same day, top bloke
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Post by wallcraft on Jul 20, 2013 14:12:44 GMT 1
Do you have the mid range flat spot with those carbs RD lazy, what was the main difference with them on the road? Mark.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 20, 2013 14:28:25 GMT 1
No flat spots with the pwk's but as I say Dave did set them up on dyno and didn't run too well before set up. Main difference is that in first two gears there's no flat spots or hesitation, it's just power all the time and you have to put weight over bars or front wheel is up in first two gears, no slipping clutch or tugging on bars. Must admit think I am going to have to buy my self a set of kennys pipes as my all speeds sound ace, but they are strangling the bikes performance Just nobody tell mars bar that I admitted that
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Post by wallcraft on Jul 20, 2013 17:11:21 GMT 1
Yes Kennys pipes are tempting if they give you more mid range on what you already have because as we know big mid- range is king in the real world on the twisty run of the mill roads where you can let loose. I run Gibbson detachable can Allspeeds, very happy good torque and power up to 9500. Think I want your carbs lazy! I'm on the hunt.
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Post by 1966baz on Jul 20, 2013 17:43:19 GMT 1
Yeah, Kenny makes damn good pipes- I have a set of the old Abbey style pipes on my f2 and with the right jetting they really sing, definitely more power. Cheers Nick.
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Post by wallcraft on Jul 20, 2013 21:29:22 GMT 1
Yeah there's one born every minute,you can new from Allens for that sort of coin !
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Post by nikfubar on Jul 20, 2013 21:51:25 GMT 1
Ha Ha f**k me what mug paid £330.00 for a second hand set of PWK28s
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Post by Deleted on Jul 20, 2013 21:57:47 GMT 1
wasn't me honestly, but since did the thread on better midrange the price has definitely gone up
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Post by wallcraft on Jul 20, 2013 22:18:22 GMT 1
You must be raking the commission in then ?
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Post by Deleted on Jul 20, 2013 22:19:05 GMT 1
I have had a set of TSA's Kenny's stainless pipes/carbon cans on my ypvs in Australia for about a year now, another mate here has a pair on a 421, I have had ARROWS, in the past, and still have a perfect pair of 31k originals hanging up in the shed. Have ridden bikes with TRUSA pipes and JL's. Kenny's are pricey but the old saying rings true, you get what you pay for. I have read a lot of Dyno comparisons, and my interpretation from what i've read and what i've experienced is that they not only perform as well or if not better than any, but they are a work of art to look at. You only live once, if you want them, buy them, you will not be disappointed. If I was strapped for cash and could not afford a set of Kenny's, then my next choice would be Jim Lomas stainless. Seahorse, how much did it cost you to get the pipes shipped out from the UK?
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Post by seahorse83 on Jul 21, 2013 8:20:31 GMT 1
God this sounds so rude, and please I hope I dont offend any one but i think it would be necessary to contact Kenny for a price. They were around the same price as the Jim Lomas stainless, maybe a fraction more. And yes they were shipped to Australia. Kenny even threw in a Beany.
Re the other post on the PWK's. KX100 OEM for 100 US dollars on evil bay, the real thing in the kwaka box from Japan are the go. Allens performance for you lucky basdards in the UK to then get all the jets,needles and cable elbows. I am currently going through a drawn out process just getting jets needles and elbows for my PWK's. i should say that in the meantime the 31k 350 with 31k carbs and kenny's pipes is a winning combination. Bike pulls well from bottom to top, no flat spots and im eering on the side of caution running rich. Some will wonder then why get the PWK's, well I have an LC project that they may or may not go on, besides all ive read about the PWK's they sound just to good to ignore. Setting up/finding the right needle at the start will be the trick IMO.
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Post by seahorse83 on Jul 21, 2013 8:28:12 GMT 1
if you look up the write ups I've done on mid-range improvements etc, what you will find is that I put Kenny's pipes on my bike which was just hoovering around the 50bhp mark and immediately gained 4bhp without jetting, the bike was running lean wit them fitted and would definately give more power than that for sure once jetted correctly, mid-range came up as well. I rate Kenny's pipes that much that I have bitten the bullet and ordered a set so that I can continue with my work, using his pipes as the defacto pipes going forward as my allspeeds are holding the work back at 50bhp, Kenny's will allow me to take it as far as I can with what I am doing. In due course and subject to me gathering enough exhausts types up, I will be doing an exhaust "shoot out" using my bike with all of them, that way we know we are comparing the exhausts and not different states of tune, tweaks etc on a various bikes. From the initial testing I've done so far, I am pretty sure Kenny's pipes are going to come out the best all round pipe as I am not just testing for max bhp, but also and most crucially mid-range and bottom end pull etc If you an set of exhausts that improves the bikes all round performance then you won;t go far wrong with a set of his pipes, once set up correctly, your bike will be transformed - ask Andy (marsbar350), after I'd set his up on the dyno it was a very different bike to what it was when it arrived - his gains where very impressive I rode andys bike just before it was set up on the dyno and again straight after and the difference was just amazing like a different bike, just proves you can spend a fortune getting new exhausts etc but if its not set up properly on a dyno then you aren't getting the best from it. Plus you know then that you can red line it and know its not running weak at the top end ready to hole a piston. And yes dave set my pwk28's up on the dyno on the same day, top bloke I would be very interested and appreciate to know which needles the tuner ended up settling on, was it the KR1 N68X, a JJH or JJJ, or a NAPF or something else?
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Post by icarus001 on Jul 21, 2013 10:10:10 GMT 1
Pipe on a 1980's bike looking dated ? LOL On a bog standard LC you'd have a point. But if I'm modifying it with late 80's running gear then I want it to look like a late 80's bike, not one designed in the late 70's with those low exhausts.
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Post by muttsnuts on Jul 21, 2013 10:16:08 GMT 1
seahourse, the needles I used in the PWK's are N99 - hope that helps
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Post by midlifecrisisrd on Jul 21, 2013 11:31:44 GMT 1
got kenny's stainless lipes and pwk's (jjh needles) and they look, perform and sound awesome. stainless works out cheaper than getting them plated.
had standards, microns, gibsons and the tsa ones give the best mid without a peak at stupid rpm.
steve
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Post by wallcraft on Jul 21, 2013 16:38:47 GMT 1
Steve just out of interest are you running Ramairs or standard air box? What mains and pilots are you runin? Mark.
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Post by midlifecrisisrd on Jul 21, 2013 20:24:33 GMT 1
Steve just out of interest are you running Ramairs or standard air box? What mains and pilots are you runin? Mark. Standard box, trumpets out, lid drilled and yam filter. 140 mains 36 pilots. Steve
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Post by seahorse83 on Jul 22, 2013 5:28:38 GMT 1
seahourse, the needles I used in the PWK's are N99 - hope that helps Thankyou so much Muttsnuts, that adds another needle to the mix, much appreciated Kind regards Seahorse
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