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Post by mellow on Nov 23, 2011 19:26:09 GMT 1
Has anybody else fitted the billet valves and bushes to their ypvs  I have fitted mine but when i fitted the centre joining piece it seems to rub the bush on the back edge of one side as it turns to a certain point.Its definately a snug fit between the barrels  Almost seems like as i do it up its twisting. Just wondered if anyone else has encountered this before i go adjusting the back corner of it  Ta muchly  |
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Post by midlifecrisisrd on Nov 23, 2011 21:51:47 GMT 1
Funny you should say that,
Built mine last week ( genuine bushes but TSS cast valves ) and both valves turned freely until the joint was fitted then they were stiff. Had to "adjust" the end cap to get them to turn freely so would seem the valves are not "true"
Would have sent them back if it weren't for the fact that Mick had worked them.
Steve
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Post by paulo on Nov 23, 2011 21:55:48 GMT 1
Where did you get the billet valves from ?. Had trouble with parts supplied by TSS . When i fitted the end cap on the right hand side the valve was not free to turn, also when you fitted the centre joint the right hand side valve was slightly open - when looking in through the exhaust port, approx 5mm set difference between the valves. Luckily i had a spare set of original valves that cleaned up great, fitted them with the new billet bushes and no problems - looks like a poorly machined Right hand side valve. Yes it is a bit of a tight squeeze but should not touch the bush face in any orientation - or at least mine don't. If you still have the old set, try fitting them to see if there is any difference. Looks like I'm not the only one to have had problems with TSS valves - didn't look right to me when they arrived - very poorly made - i just put it down to experience - never going to use him again. |
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Post by mellow on Nov 23, 2011 22:13:28 GMT 1
Hi men. Yes they are from TSS.  I have the old valves but thought these new blingy billet valves and bushes would be spot on Really cant be arsed to strip top end again so think il adjust the centre join  Thanks for replies |
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Post by paul8899 on Nov 23, 2011 23:31:39 GMT 1
I haven't tried my billet ones out yet , they looked pretty good machining wise although I haven't measured them up properly ( yet  ) Does he still sell the billet powervalves ? |
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Post by mellow on Nov 23, 2011 23:56:28 GMT 1
when you both say u had trouble with the right hand end cap.....may i ask exactly what u did to adjust it I've been looking at mine again and the centre join doesnt look like it is filed square in the angle of bottom part. I fitted my genuine yam centre bit and its a lot better |
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Post by mellow on Nov 23, 2011 23:58:02 GMT 1
Paul no they have vanished from the site.I believe the guy making the parts has parted company with the other guy |
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Post by bare on Nov 24, 2011 4:57:57 GMT 1
I found the CNC'd TSS valves to be of a V high standard.
I did use New OEM Bushes and centre clamps though :-)
If there's an issue it's usually in the barrels not being well aligned. One needs loosen the barrel /case bolts and fiddle to get the best fit at the valve clamp.. assuming the valve clamp isn't Crap.
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Post by paddyontour on Nov 24, 2011 9:53:51 GMT 1
I bought a set off TSS for an F2 - got the lot, PV's & bushes... never had a problem with them, even using the centre joint I can turn them freely by hand from either side... but I did get them quite a long time ago?
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Post by Deleted on Nov 24, 2011 10:50:49 GMT 1
I didn't have much joy fitting the TSS centre joint. I ended up using an OEM centre joint. As Bare suggests, check the barrels are aligned. I found that tightening the cylinder head before the base helped with alignment. Then tighten the centre joint. Don't give up on your TSS valves just yet. Remember they are a better fit on the F2 than the 31ks fitted as standard.  |
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Post by JonW on Nov 24, 2011 12:01:46 GMT 1
The valves fitted in my 85 fine, but they were tight on the center joint and i used an OEM one instead, you could shave the sides of the clamp of course...
TSS valves were made in Japan as I understand it and the tsunami washed away the factory, they were said to be looking to restart production but then the split occurred, but since Steve was the guy doing the sourcing i would think they would be back on the site when he can get them back in stock.
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Post by paulo on Nov 24, 2011 21:22:06 GMT 1
Sorry chaps, mine weren't the billet valves as TSS didn't have them in stock as his supplier was washed away in the tsunami, i got the cast valves, with billet valves and centre joint.
Built up each valve assembly to each barrel on the bench - loads of problems - they wouldn't turn 360 degrees freely and when the outer end caps were bolted into place they nipped up.
Took a set out of my spare barrels, cleaned them up and fitted these with no problems - torque off the head to align barrels then tightened the barrel base nuts, so aligning barrel with each other - tried the TSS centre joint - no good. Cleaned up the old centre joint and jobs a gooden.
Got a set of fitted but unused cast valves for you TSS supporters going cheap - see if you can make them fit without loads of f*****g about - good quality bits should fit without any mod's.
Sorry chaps, just makes me mad when you order something and it doesn't live up to the mark !.
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Post by mellow on Nov 30, 2011 22:14:46 GMT 1
i just thought i would add this to the post They are fitted as u know and i have been trying to set them this evening. When the right hand one is flush with top edge of exhaust port.......the left one is not quite flush....sits in a bit,doesnt quite reach top of port Now no allignment is gonna sort that is it Couple of pics....well best i could get ;D right hand barrel,nice n flush  left barrel,recessed slightly  |
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Post by midlifecrisisrd on Dec 1, 2011 9:13:31 GMT 1
That seems to be the problem with them, the ends are not true and the centres are mis aligned. Looks like you will have to get the dremel out and shave down the valve that doesn't open properly.
Mine seem to line up ok but mick matched mine to the port. If mine wasn't already built with fluids in I'd be tempted to rip them out and replace them.
I have mailed TSS regarding this.
Steve
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Post by nikfubar on Dec 1, 2011 11:50:58 GMT 1
If the valves fit nice but do not allign properly I would do a bit of port grinding to flush them all in, like you say no amount of fettling with the joint piece is gonna sort that.
Easy enough to do, just remove the barrels & head, bolt back together on the bench, lock the power valves in position & grind away ;D
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Post by midlifecrisisrd on Dec 1, 2011 16:16:02 GMT 1
Hi,
Just got a mail back from TSS. They have another supplier making the billet valves as we speak.
They have said that they will send me a billet set to replace my cast ones as soon as they are ready and that any body else with problems should get in touch to resolve their problem.
So good result from a decent guy.
Steve
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Post by midlifecrisisrd on Dec 1, 2011 16:22:32 GMT 1
Mellow,
Just read your post again, mine were like that at first untill I removed the LH barrel end cap which allowed the valve to move over a bit and helped a lot. You might then have the prob that I had that the end bush needs spaced out with a couple of washers. I also had to "work" the bush a bit to get the valve to turn but still have some stiff points so will have to come apart at some point to replace them as I am not happy with them. It seems like the ends are not straight so as you say they twist as they open. At least they will be sending new ones.
Steve
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Post by nikfubar on Dec 1, 2011 16:40:42 GMT 1
Blimey  didn't realise they were that bad, thought they just didn't allign properly, no good if they are actually bent |
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Post by paddyontour on Dec 1, 2011 17:18:58 GMT 1
This doesn't make good reading & I'm gonna have a bloody good look at mine when I get my shiney new set of Kenny's 'super-spannies' next week I'll take some piccies and see what they look like, I'd swear I checked them 'cos I replaced the barrels at the same time as I snapped an exhaust stud and made a complete arse job of trying to get the remanants of the stud out one thing I would say is that I personally have faith in Steve putting things right if there is a problem as he's a decent bloke and a 2-stroke lover, not just some git out to make money |
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Post by mellow on Dec 1, 2011 17:39:32 GMT 1
I've emailed steve so will see what happens Cheers for the advice though |
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Post by mellow on Dec 2, 2011 18:06:18 GMT 1
Ok men, I have had a reply from Steve at TSS. The valves supplied were not from steve's usual supplier as they were out of action at the time so he used the only other supplier that had them as he was in a fix. As steve said above new valves from another supplier are currently being made and should be ready in the next couple of weeks. He has also said he will send me a new set to replace them when they are done and again says anyone else with the same problem should contact him to rectify the situation. NOW THAT IS A DECENT BLOKE!! I cant thank him enough. If only every business operated like this Cheers steve if you are on this forum |
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Post by mellow on Jan 19, 2012 23:02:43 GMT 1
Just thought id update this thread. Had a mail from steve this afternoon saying the valves were ready at his suppliers and he has instructed them to send me a set ASAP. Thought i needed to keep you all posted as this guy is a star and a decent honest trader.If only every company acted like this Cheers |
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Post by mellow on Jan 30, 2012 16:30:41 GMT 1
just a little update. Steve kindly got his new manufacturer to post valves direct from usa to save time.been about a week now to get here.They been sat at customs since friday awaiting customs charges Not steves fault i know but from what i have read about parcelforce and their extra charge it looks like im now looking at import duty,vat and parcelforces charge on my replacement valves May as well just have bought another set |
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Post by midlifecrisisrd on Jan 30, 2012 19:06:39 GMT 1
just a little update. Steve kindly got his new manufacturer to post valves direct from usa to save time.been about a week now to get here.They been sat at customs since friday awaiting customs charges Not steves fault i know but from what i have read about parcelforce and their extra charge it looks like im now looking at import duty,vat and parcelforces charge on my replacement valves May as well just have bought another set Steve is usually better at that with them being sent as "commercial sample" Not fair paying vat on a replacement part. Will be 20% of value plus £12 I think. Worrying thing for me is mine were also being sent direct so I'll expect the charge. Steve |
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Post by mellow on Jan 30, 2012 19:10:15 GMT 1
yeah i totally agree m8 I mailed steve and told him and he said jims paperwork is different and maybe the way he has labelled parcel up but nothing he could do. He said it would have been another month if they were posted to him then onto me Oh well,you live and learn |
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Post by bare on Jan 31, 2012 4:30:42 GMT 1
Hopefully these are the 'original' CNC Billet valves, not the Cast copies that some have been sent.. Let us know.
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Post by lb on Feb 1, 2012 2:19:00 GMT 1
Yup,keen for an update.
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Post by mellow on Feb 1, 2012 16:08:31 GMT 1
THEY have finally arrived at my local depot. Just waiting for the letter telling me what charges i have to pay and how much hopefully it wont be long as i wanna get them fitted |
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Post by mellow on Feb 6, 2012 21:16:03 GMT 1
FINALLY got replacement valves today!! No thanks to customs and Parcelforce for charging me duty/vat and parcelforces lovely charge for paying the vat for me then charging a fee for it Yes they are the billet 2 piece ones.And yes they are much better.Gotta sort my pipes out now then maybe i can start it |
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Post by midlifecrisisrd on Mar 2, 2012 9:27:01 GMT 1
Got my replacements last week so Steve at TSS was true to his word. Billet valves made in US, look a lot better than the cast ones. Unfortunately my cast ones are in the bike so will wait till end of summer for an inspection strip ( if it lasts that long ) and swap them over. Mailed from Aus and marked as commercial sample so no fees. Steve |
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didn't realise they were that bad, thought they just didn't allign properly, no good if they are actually bent 