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Post by 4l04ever on Aug 22, 2022 16:09:41 GMT 1
I went out for a ride out with a few of my mates yesterday. Was an awesome ride of around 150 miles.
We stopped at a café by the river in Evesham, then I noticed that I was the youngest one there and I am 56... They were all in their 60's, but you would never guess that from our riding...
I was on my Triumph Street Triple 765RS, the other bikes were a Triumph Speed Triple 1200 with a super loud race exhaust, a new Yamaha MT10SP, a BMW S1000R and an MV Agusta F4.
Good job there were no police hiding in the bushes... :-)
It shows that you need to keep doing what you love while your joints and eyesight still allow it! :-)
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Post by mouse on Aug 22, 2022 18:43:52 GMT 1
A very good point, well made. Couldn't agree more!
Mouse
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Post by muttsnuts on Aug 22, 2022 20:32:14 GMT 1
couldn't agree more, was at Olivers Mount yesterday for the hill climb and there was a chap there doing it, he was 79 and wasn't slow either ! he was riding an old velocette as well  |
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Post by shaunthe2nd on Aug 23, 2022 8:19:39 GMT 1
I went out for a ride out with a few of my mates yesterday. Was an awesome ride of around 150 miles. We stopped at a café by the rider in Evesham, then I noticed that I was the youngest one there and I am 56... They were all in their 60's, but you would never guess that from our riding... I was on my Triumph Street Triple 765RS, the other bikes were a Triumph Speed Triple 1200 with a super loud race exhaust, a new Yamaha MT10SP, a BMW S1000R and an MV Agusta F4. Good job there were no police hiding in the bushes... :-) It shows that you need to keep doing what you love while your joints and eyesight still allow it! :-) Same for me really, my bike mates all late 50's and 60's. What's your thoughts on the 765 Rob? I've had the 675 for a few years now, and love the bike, the riding position and bike seems to suit me, and its quick enough for me, but been thinking about upgrading to the later model. |
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Post by billbott on Aug 23, 2022 9:23:43 GMT 1
We are all in our 50’s, one lad is 70 and rides a Pan European but does take his time on the twisties as it weighs more than a car!
I very nearly bought a 765RS earlier this year. My mate has one and it’s a fantastic bike, and sounds brilliant going through the gears with the quickshifter.
The thing that stopped me was the size – I am 6’ 3” and compared to the MT10 I had, the Triumph felt tiny. So I went for an MT10SP – considered the new Speed Triple but cost put me off, plus I’ve always been a Yamaha man..
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Post by 4l04ever on Aug 23, 2022 11:16:30 GMT 1
Hi Shaun
I have tried to make the 765 close to the same riding position as my LCs. The seat seamed a little taller, but not much. The bike felt a little like you were "on it" rather than "in it", so I have replaced the front seat with the one from the Low Ride Height model
, which is more scooped out, and lowers the riding position by about 1/2". That feels more like I am "in it" now.
The bars are quite buzzy, as you cannot see clearly out of the mirrors when the engine is above about 5000 RPM. The bars felt buzzy on your hands, more on the right side, so I have fitted bar end weights and grip puppies which has helped a little, but I think the riding position pushes you slightly forward over the bars, so you end up leaning on your hands a bit which is definitely a contributory factor. The grip puppies help remind me not to grip the bars too hard. I have also altered the way I hold the throttle, which also helped a little. See this video :-
I did try some 25mm bar risers, but I could not get the cables to sit correctly, so have just ordered some custom 18mm ones in stainless to try. I am trying to get the bars up a little and towards me a little to stop me leaning on my hands so much.
Sound wise, the standard exhaust and inlet noises were very nice, but I recently found a deal on the Arrow can, so fitted that and have gone through the fuelling relearn and it seems to ride about the same as previously now. The exhaust note is a bit noisier but similar to standard, so still pretty nice sounding, but not that loud that I need to wear ear plugs.
Brakes are excellent. Lever adjustment is another thing I am working on. I have the angles all adjusted perfect and span on minimum, but could do with the span being 10mm shorter, so will keep looking to see if I can change this in the future. This is the fancy Brembo master cylinder, so there do not appear to be any alternative levers for this.
Clutch is light, but span to lever is slightly larger than optimum, so will have to look at alternative levers.
Suspension still seems a bit harsh for our bumpy roads, even when softened off. Sometimes get eye shake, so again this probably needs some more optimisation to suit me better.
The quick shifter is easily activated by accident as you only need to touch the lever and it thinks you want to change gear, so I am working on getting the lever more optimised to cure this, but I just had some new boots, which affected it again, so need to make further adjustments to get it better. The quick shifter is great on full chat, but invasive when not caning it.
Power is awesome. It accelerates so quick, I sometime don't keep up with the gear changes and go into the rev limiter :-) It keeps up with all my mates bikes in straight line acceleration. It is fairly sedate upto 7000 RPM, then starts pulling hard and the good noises come out :-)
It feels light compared to most of their bikes.
I have back to back compared it to my mate's BMW S1000R. The Triumph felt a little taller and firmer. The BMW had more low end grunt as expected due to it's extra capacity. I preferred the handling of the Triumph, as I like have my bike set a bit harsher like it would be for a track session.
I have back to back compared it to one of my LCs and the Triumph turns in a load quicker and easier. The Triumph is also taller and has stiffer suspension setup.
I have a 2018 model and love the clocks. I had a look at the 2020 models and the clock is not so easy to quickly read while caning it.
It certainly looks pretty :-)
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Post by shaunthe2nd on Aug 23, 2022 11:31:13 GMT 1
Rob, that is great feedback, thanks.
Did you ever have an earlier 675 to compare?
Cheers, Shaun
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Post by steve63 on Aug 23, 2022 17:06:15 GMT 1
I don't want to bring this thread down to doom and gloom but most of us are 50/60's. I really believe that when this generation are gone motorcycling, at least on anything bigger than a 50cc scooter will pretty much gone with us. If you see someone under 30 at a bike meet they get stared at like they're an alien life form. If it survives it will be very niche, maybe just 'bobbers' and guys in brown suede tasseled leather jackets with 'Man bobs' left?  I guess it's what the Government has been trying to achieve since the late 70's but us stubborn bu@@ers wouldn't give in! |
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Post by donkeychomp on Aug 23, 2022 21:29:32 GMT 1
I don't know...every day around here I see people on bikes with instructors. Clearly they are training for a licence so there should still be plenty of us around for many years to come. Though I seriously doubt they'll have even heard of an LC, let alone want one!
Alex
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Post by 4l04ever on Aug 24, 2022 0:17:17 GMT 1
Rob, that is great feedback, thanks. Did you ever have an earlier 675 to compare? Cheers, Shaun I have never ridden a 675 to compare. :-( |
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Post by JonW on Aug 24, 2022 2:20:03 GMT 1
Ive been reading some old bike mags from the 80s that i picked up over the years and brought back from the UK with me. Its quite ovbious when you look at the ads in those mags how biking was aimed at the youth of the time, ie our generation. Most ads showed either 125s or the bikes us learners wanted or had just upraded to. Many of them have LCs and other 2Ts etc. I think that segment was where most things were happening back then.
I almost never see young riders here in Aus, but in the UK I sat at a few cafes, outside FnC shops and pubs and saw a few sets of learners with instructors. Usually 2 to 1, not the 5 or 6 to 1 youd see in the 90s tho.
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Post by steve63 on Aug 24, 2022 7:56:09 GMT 1
I don't know...every day around here I see people on bikes with instructors. Clearly they are training for a licence so there should still be plenty of us around for many years to come. Though I seriously doubt they'll have even heard of an LC, let alone want one! Alex You have a point. I see quite a few of these little groups myself. If they are youngsters (under 50 😃) I don't know where they end up riding and hanging out. Are we presuming they are teenagers when actually they are much older? My lad who is 28 has ridden bikes since he was 8, starting with a Malaguti 50 and currently has a YZ250 and a ZXR400 is talking about doing his bike test. He's never ridden a bike on the road. I do my best to put him off if I'm honest. Parents like me are part of the problem 😁. I know the best times of my life have been on motorbikes. I also know the worst times have been too! |
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Post by Robbieben on Aug 24, 2022 13:09:55 GMT 1
We're lucky in our area up here in Durham we have a very healthy younger community on 125's etc that mostly progress to bigger bikes, I was at a local meet last night on one of my old 2 strokes, all the youngsters loved it, I need to take them out more often and encourage a new beginning for the 2 stroke Having said that there were 3 older == early 20's lads on nice bikes, Aprilia Tuono 66o, Ducati Monster and an R6 so again showing the 125 owners there is a nice option out there if they pass their test. |
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Post by arrdy350 on Aug 25, 2022 19:25:51 GMT 1
I don't know...every day around here I see people on bikes with instructors. Clearly they are training for a licence so there should still be plenty of us around for many years to come. Though I seriously doubt they'll have even heard of an LC, let alone want one! Alex You have a point. I see quite a few of these little groups myself. If they are youngsters (under 50 😃) I don't know where they end up riding and hanging out. Are we presuming they are teenagers when actually they are much older? My lad who is 28 has ridden bikes since he was 8, starting with a Malaguti 50 and currently has a YZ250 and a ZXR400 is talking about doing his bike test. He's never ridden a bike on the road. I do my best to put him off if I'm honest. Parents like me are part of the problem 😁. I know the best times of my life have been on motorbikes. I also know the worst times have been too! What is the ZXR 400 like to ride? As my dad keeps saying I should maybe get one. |
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Post by donkeychomp on Aug 25, 2022 21:31:54 GMT 1
I had one. The original twin headlight model. Unreal linear speed from such a tiny engine, pin it at any revs and you are at warp speed instantly and it handled superbly. USD forks and rear sets as standard. They only had one problem and that was the carbs, they'd get bunged up or out of tune quite often but I could live with that. There is a ZXR 400 forum and I was on that for a while but it's very cliquey and not that helpful! I'd happily own another. If you can find one buy it I say.
Alex
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Post by arrdy350 on Aug 26, 2022 18:19:37 GMT 1
I had one. The original twin headlight model. Unreal linear speed from such a tiny engine, pin it at any revs and you are at warp speed instantly and it handled superbly. USD forks and rear sets as standard. They only had one problem and that was the carbs, they'd get bunged up or out of tune quite often but I could live with that. There is a ZXR 400 forum and I was on that for a while but it's very cliquey and not that helpful! I'd happily own another. If you can find one buy it I say. Alex Thanks Alex 👍 I like the original twin headlight model more than the later one but they are hard to find. |
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Post by 4l04ever on Aug 26, 2022 20:59:59 GMT 1
New ZX4R |
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Post by donkeychomp on Aug 26, 2022 22:09:20 GMT 1
Is there any reason why so many new bikes have those whopping great silencers? Just ruins the looks I think.
Alex
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Post by midlifecrisisrd on Aug 26, 2022 23:28:45 GMT 1
Catalytic converters and noise regs I'm afraid ☹
Steve
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