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Post by tipfinchy on Apr 23, 2022 9:30:20 GMT 1
are prices starting to go the other way ? i have been having an occasional look for a 31K on ebay and there has been a few on there recently and have seen some that the price has been dropped a fair bit after being on there for a few weeks and the bikes still not sold am i dreaming? as always time will tell i guess
mart
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Post by muttsnuts on Apr 23, 2022 9:46:49 GMT 1
yeah, defo dropping, or at least, stuff isn't selling........
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Post by steve1966 on Apr 23, 2022 9:47:46 GMT 1
are prices starting to go the other way ? i have been having an occasional look for a 31K on ebay and there has been a few on there recently and have seen some that the price has been dropped a fair bit after being on there for a few weeks and the bikes still not sold am i dreaming? as always time will tell i guess mart Think your right but went out on mine today and will never be sold. Great fun.
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Post by tipfinchy on Apr 23, 2022 9:54:20 GMT 1
are prices starting to go the other way ? i have been having an occasional look for a 31K on ebay and there has been a few on there recently and have seen some that the price has been dropped a fair bit after being on there for a few weeks and the bikes still not sold am i dreaming? as always time will tell i guess mart Think your right but went out on mine today and will never be sold. Great fun. Yes with you there , couldn't care if my lc is worth 20k or 20p , but if I buy a 31k I would like it cheap 🤣 Mart
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Post by abar121 on Apr 23, 2022 9:55:47 GMT 1
It's a bit early to say, spring is only just starting.
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Post by stevesmith on Apr 23, 2022 9:56:40 GMT 1
are prices starting to go the other way ? i have been having an occasional look for a 31K on ebay and there has been a few on there recently and have seen some that the price has been dropped a fair bit after being on there for a few weeks and the bikes still not sold am i dreaming? as always time will tell i guess mart The current market is very slow. Nothing to do with prices ,it's a case that everyone now is being squeezed with increases in ,oil ,fuel ,sunflower oil ,bread ,butter etc etc . Worse to come yet I think ..
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Post by 29davyt on Apr 23, 2022 10:21:18 GMT 1
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Post by 29davyt on Apr 23, 2022 10:25:09 GMT 1
7 x 350lc’s on eBay all over £10K and 2 more just under,, they might not sell for that but it’s not deterring sellers from listing them at these prices..
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Post by jon on Apr 23, 2022 10:45:00 GMT 1
I know it’s not original so it doesn’t really matter, but the front mudguard rivets are not right. Easily obtainable copies out there today. Front brake line clips on upside down. What else is wrong? For £15k you’d expect perfection? Jon
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Post by midlifecrisisrd on Apr 23, 2022 10:56:30 GMT 1
The fact they are not selling tells a story
Collectors will always pay well for the right bike but there was a frenzy of late where stuff was selling for big money that seemed mental but short lived
I spoke to a guy I know last year who had picked up a nice matching lc2 import with UK v5
He was moving it on and asked the value. I said 6k all day long
He struggled to sell it 🤔
The market is funny 🙄
One bike sells for 10k then that is the assumed value but there are few buyers willing to splurge that cash
A lot depends on the bike too
If some of the well known reputable builders do a complete from the ground up everything refurbished/replaced build then that is value as we know what it costs
A stripped cleaned, painted and slung back together one may look similar but ain't the same
Steve
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Post by mouse on Apr 23, 2022 11:03:43 GMT 1
I think prices are stalling, ebay has some really over priced bikes, which i believe people use as a gauge to price theirs but i really don't think they sell. Exceptional or unique bikes have a better chance, however that market is smaller as we all have different tastes.
But i don't think it's just LC's, RGV's seem in a similar state.
I think cheap stuff always sells but mid to high is struggling and i don't think it is just bikes, it's everything at the mo.
Mouse
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Post by abar121 on Apr 23, 2022 11:10:07 GMT 1
But then again, look at the prices of used cars. They are at record highs due to the chip shortage / inflation and weak pound. Not directly relevant to our old smokers though
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Post by midlifecrisisrd on Apr 23, 2022 11:32:34 GMT 1
But then again, look at the prices of used cars. They are at record highs due to the chip shortage / inflation and weak pound. Not directly relevant to our old smokers though It does a bit as it skews the impression of value for money A nice classic bike for the price of a 5 year old Fiesta Wait to see what happens when chip production catches up and new cars are readily available There will be a swamping of the market from all the people that were holding off or waiting on a delivery My current ETA for my new car is 10th June I ordered it in June last year The company I work for has 2 new starters that have came from the car industry Fed up being pressured to sell cars by lying to the customer about availability and waiting times 🙄 Steve
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Post by 29davyt on Apr 23, 2022 11:36:12 GMT 1
Look at the price of houses ! We’ve just bought one and have had to pay £15K over the asking to secure it ! Stuff is selling still even high value cars etc, not sure where folk are getting the money from most probably on the never never never never ! 😂
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Post by JonW on Apr 23, 2022 13:50:48 GMT 1
But then again, look at the prices of used cars. They are at record highs due to the chip shortage / inflation and weak pound. Not directly relevant to our old smokers though It does a bit as it skews the impression of value for money A nice classic bike for the price of a 5 year old Fiesta Wait to see what happens when chip production catches up and new cars are readily available
There will be a swamping of the market from all the people that were holding off or waiting on a delivery My current ETA for my new car is 10th June I ordered it in June last year The company I work for has 2 new starters that have came from the car industry Fed up being pressured to sell cars by lying to the customer about availability and waiting times 🙄 Steve Hmm 'readily available' isnt happening anytime soon. Sorry but there is no 'return to normal', the last two years is not far off what the new normal is. The car dealers business was dying pre covid with internet sales and dropping sales. Covid and chips changed it and they like what they are seeing even if they say they dont. FWIW I went to a couple of car dealers on Friday, all said that the manufacturers are loving their new biz model: - make cars for orders only, deposit up front - no stock holding: no fields full of cars to take home today, all getting old and costing money - no selling old models off cheap when new ones come out - no discounts unless you really have to and then make it very minimal - no bonuses paid to dealers to shift old stock, its not needed They are making money even selling less cars and wait lists are not a problem. The dealers are hoovering up cancelled orders and selling them at huge profits. One dealer offered me a car to order at just under £20k, 6-8 months wait... or he had one with just over 150miles out the back, wrong colour but, well i could have it today. The price? A cool 25% over list.
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Post by JonW on Apr 23, 2022 14:18:08 GMT 1
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Post by arrdy350 on Apr 24, 2022 13:30:45 GMT 1
I went to a auction yesterday and almost all the bikes did not sell because the reserve was to high for them A RGV 250 failed to make 5k and fizzy sold for over 4k and a KH 250 went for under 4K.
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Post by chrisg on Apr 24, 2022 15:33:41 GMT 1
Deffo going down. Im affraid that the higher cost of living,energy costs, Fuel, Insurance,rise in council tax, rise in NI all play their part to sap our disposable income. They will pick up, but for now this will be the norm. If you have money ,now is the time to buy the bike you promised yourself. JMHO.
Always been after a z900, so keeping my fingers crossd. Sorry to use the K word.
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Post by 29davyt on Apr 24, 2022 18:57:37 GMT 1
Deffo going down. Im affraid that the higher cost of living,energy costs, Fuel, Insurance,rise in council tax, rise in NI all play their part to sap our disposable income. They will pick up, but for now this will be the norm. If you have money ,now is the time to buy the bike you promised yourself. JMHO. Always been after a z900, so keeping my fingers crossd. Sorry to use the K word. I genuinely believe you are dreaming about this, no signs of folk cutting back from the experience I have seen ,, hope your right but !!
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Post by chrisg on Apr 24, 2022 19:26:42 GMT 1
Deffo going down. Im affraid that the higher cost of living,energy costs, Fuel, Insurance,rise in council tax, rise in NI all play their part to sap our disposable income. They will pick up, but for now this will be the norm. If you have money ,now is the time to buy the bike you promised yourself. JMHO. Always been after a z900, so keeping my fingers crossd. Sorry to use the K word. I genuinely believe you are dreaming about this, no signs of folk cutting back from the experience I have seen ,, hope your right but !! I, like you, see lots of bikes for sale 10k, 12k even 15k but none selling. Track the ones on eb that are auction only, that will give you an idea of the market.
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Post by 29davyt on Apr 24, 2022 19:41:20 GMT 1
I genuinely believe you are dreaming about this, no signs of folk cutting back from the experience I have seen ,, hope your right but !! I, like you, see lots of bikes for sale 10k, 12k even 15k but none selling. Track the ones on eb that are auction only, that will give you an idea of the market. Tracking one now, £6K 4 days to go reserve not met !!!
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Post by chrisg on Apr 24, 2022 19:48:07 GMT 1
I, like you, see lots of bikes for sale 10k, 12k even 15k but none selling. Track the ones on eb that are auction only, that will give you an idea of the market. Tracking one now, £6K 4 days to go reserve not met !!! www.ebay.co.uk/itm/224949989415?hash=item3460107027:g:vJ4AAOSwLEhiXbydIve been watching as well Last year there was a blip when bikes were actually selling for C12k and not just 1, several, admittedly there were top notch.
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Post by 29davyt on Apr 24, 2022 19:55:13 GMT 1
Think that’s one thing we can agree on, None of these currently listed are “ Top Notch “ in fact far from it 😂
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