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Post by midlifecrisisrd on Mar 2, 2022 18:49:54 GMT 1
Just saw this frame on eBay Think you will struggle to straighten this never mind the price www.ebay.co.uk/itm/334349339882I cut one very similar after taking it for straightening and they said not to bother due to the curved top rails Steve |
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Post by arrdy350 on Mar 2, 2022 19:29:37 GMT 1
£1200 for a bent frame? 😬🤯 Their are ypvs frames cheaper which are straight.
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Post by jon on Mar 2, 2022 19:35:43 GMT 1
Wow, no mention of V5 either?
Jon
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Post by steve h on Mar 2, 2022 19:41:26 GMT 1
Bargain. I may be interested if the original numbers have been ground off, and some poorly done ones that match a V5 have been applied.
Just what I need for a hybrid build.
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Post by jon on Mar 2, 2022 19:56:48 GMT 1
Such a shame Rob123 has a wanted add up for an unusable frame to donate some brackets. That’s all this is good for, and yet the greedy bar steward wants around £1200 for this. What are they thinking? I got my whole RD250LC for half this, but it was 20 years ago. I’ve said it many times recently but the price of spares to build an LC is now so high you’d be mad to start with just a frame these days. OK we see LC’s for sale for £12k recently but do they sell? Unfortunately £6-8k seems the norm these days. It’s beyond belief. The irony of it is if it were sold for brackets at least one decent frame would result. Jon |
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Post by stusco on Mar 2, 2022 20:00:24 GMT 1
I paid £1300 for mine in 2014 it was all there but in boxes
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Post by 29davyt on Mar 2, 2022 20:09:17 GMT 1
I really hope no one buys it, it’s not just the frame that’s bent , it’s the seller, shame on you “ davidrockykelly”
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Post by reedpete on Mar 2, 2022 20:11:25 GMT 1
It’s all getting so bizarre I think I’m passed the ‘outrage’ phase… it’s more the comedy factor of guess what’s next… unfortunately there are a emergent group so I’ll informed or unscrupulous that there is a market everything….
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Post by jon on Mar 2, 2022 20:14:06 GMT 1
I really hope no one buys it, it’s not just the frame that’s bent , it’s the seller, shame on you “ davidrockykelly” I very much doubt it, but you never know? It’s just pure greed seeing how much people will pay as the price of LC’s has rocketed. TBH I wouldn’t even pay £1200 for a straight LC frame without V5 these days. As the dragons say ‘I’m out’. Jon |
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Post by tony2stroke on Mar 2, 2022 20:26:21 GMT 1
I spotted this earlier too, the add does say best offer accepted, anyone's guess what offer he will take though, logic and watching what goes on these days says, the bike with unregistered frame came up, most likely on here too, noticed that people are talking about it and saying a grand for a frame, if you can find one, the guy see's it all and thinks, there's is a market for my frame, it all adds up to me, don't you just need the headstock for the number, people build custom frames all the time, my brother had a GSXR750 custom build with a Suzuki GT250 registration.
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Post by mouse on Mar 2, 2022 20:51:51 GMT 1
I find this whole price thing really depressing.
These ridiculous prices for parts and complete bikes are going to be the death of LC's and the like, not legislation. The costs are now so high that people will stop riding their bikes as they will have too much money invested in them. Once they have built them, they will just become irrelevant expensive ornaments and i think it is such a shame.
This is a great forum but there seem to be so few bikes being built/modified now compared to a year or two ago and i am guessing this is just done to crazy prices of parts. There are some really talented builders on this forum, but i feel people are just being 'priced out' of something they enjoy and something they are good at, by this 'greed', an ugly human trait.
Part of the attraction with LC's was cheap speed and fun, if it went wrong, cheap to fix too, but now...
Mouse
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Post by shaunthe2nd on Mar 2, 2022 21:09:28 GMT 1
£100 to chop for bracketry etc.
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Post by jon on Mar 2, 2022 21:11:35 GMT 1
£100 to chop for bracketry etc. Yes I agree. Even thought maybe a typo and they wanted £120, but I fear that is not the case. Jon |
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Post by dusty350 on Mar 2, 2022 21:16:48 GMT 1
Totally agree Mouse. It's the reason I dont have a project on the horizon. I've been interested in this; www.ebay.co.uk/itm/265566666419?ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT&_trksid=p2060353.m1438.l2649Always wanted to do a Tz. I know Tz parts are more expensive than road bike parts, but it's an iconic bike for me, and on my bucket list for many years. I have been messaging the seller - a car dealer who bought it recently from another dealer. Guy tells me it's been stood in a garage for 10 years. We then disagree via pm's as to whether it needs a complete rebuild - me saying yes, him saying no ! So lunchtime today I ring him. Obvious he knows nothing about it, or bikes in general, but he does give me the number of the guy who got it built many years ago, so I ring him. Turns out it's been stood 38 years !! I then spoke to Paul at PJME regards costing a rebuild (thanks Paul, your time was much appreciated  ), and you can reckon on at least 5k, and most probably a fair bit more. Seller is adamant it wont go for less than the asking price. He has probably Googled "TZ prices", and decided this non standard bitza is worth what he's asking. It's just crazy. Brexit didn't slow anything down, and nor did Covid. War in Europe, with Gas prices possibly hitting £3k a year for average consumers might change things, but who knows ? I'm not holding my breath. And even if prices of bikes did drop, they aren't suddenly gonna half, or drop dramatically overnight - only legislating them off the road would have that effect, and lets hope that doesn't happen ! Dusty |
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Post by chrisg on Mar 2, 2022 21:31:46 GMT 1
It is HPi clear though.  Doesn't even mention if its 4L1 or 4L0. Price for a scrap frame is outrageous. |
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Post by reedpete on Mar 2, 2022 22:19:44 GMT 1
Dusty, think you were wise to walk away from that as a restoration. Needs serious money spending on it as is. Looks like a modified twin shock frame and makes no sense to rebuild that.
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Post by dusty350 on Mar 2, 2022 22:28:07 GMT 1
I agree, it's an A or B model, and should be twin shock as you say Pete.  |
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Post by steve63 on Mar 3, 2022 21:36:32 GMT 1
At least it's obviously bent. You could pay good money for one and find it 2°out and not know until you build the bike and it handles like a shopping trolley. Just looking on the bright side 😃
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Post by steve63 on Mar 3, 2022 21:45:09 GMT 1
£100 to chop for bracketry etc. Nah, straighten that no problem. Mine was worse after hitting a Cortina in 1983. Got it Straightened in Leeds. Went on to back flip it, massive high side at Cadwell and have it kicked off its stand by a very upset Husband. Sold it to a mate for £450. I saw the bike a couple of years ago, immaculate, just two owners. Must be worth 10k easy. The guy even welded the original crank cases after a massive crank blow up so he could keep the matching numbers. Makes is worth more you know 🤔 just shows, you never know what you are buying really 😃 |
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Post by steve63 on Mar 3, 2022 21:50:13 GMT 1
Does the shock on the TZ seem to just mount on a bracket fixed between the two fairing brackets? 🥴
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Post by steve63 on Mar 3, 2022 21:54:21 GMT 1
Just to see where we were with it I made an offer of £200 which was rejected. So I made another of £250 which was also rejected.
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Post by dusty350 on Mar 3, 2022 21:57:15 GMT 1
That Tz should be twin shock. It's been changed to mono with a bracket below the frame rails.
Dusty
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Post by jon on Mar 3, 2022 22:00:56 GMT 1
That’s the sad thing about this. Someone is seeing a major component however f**ked as being part of a bike that is worth £13k.
Dreamers.
The ones for £13k that sell (to be confirmed) will have to be spot bol**ck, museum or 101% professionally restored.
Jon
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), and you can reckon on at least 5k, and most probably a fair bit more. Seller is adamant it wont go for less than the asking price. He has probably Googled "TZ prices", and decided this non standard bitza is worth what he's asking. It's just crazy.
