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Post by mickt1964 on Mar 29, 2021 20:16:03 GMT 1
My LC was first registered in June 1980 and I bought in 1990. (V Reg)
So just looking for clarification on road tax and MoT, is my bike now exempt?
Thanks
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Post by ajh on Mar 29, 2021 20:19:28 GMT 1
you can apply from April 21 for historic status and then be tax and MOT exempt
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Post by stumpy on Apr 7, 2021 17:47:35 GMT 1
you can apply from April 21 for historic status and then be tax and MOT exempt why couldnt they apply in june 2020 as was 40 years old then, i have a gsx that was registered in march 81, when is the earliest i can apply then, thanks |
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Post by dc on Apr 7, 2021 17:51:47 GMT 1
Because the DVLA round up the year the bike was registered and you apply the following April. So if it's 40 years old in Jan 22, you have a long wait until April 23.
You can apply in April 22 in the case if yours.
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Post by howard on Apr 7, 2021 19:39:41 GMT 1
Just done my 400E today , how long does it take to register as it's not showing as T&T on the DVLA site ?
Can you ride straight away or do you need to register the MOT as historic?
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Post by freddie19 on Apr 8, 2021 0:10:20 GMT 1
you can apply from April 21 for historic status and then be tax and MOT exempt why couldnt they apply in june 2020 as was 40 years old then, i have a gsx that was registered in march 81, when is the earliest i can apply then, thanks Same as me mate!😁 My CB900F was 40 years old on 31st March, so would be MOT free from then on but won't be tax free until April '22. Tried taxing it online but says no MOT record held. Must admit I haven't used it for years as I've been creating a hybrid Spencer Rep so it's been on Sorn! Had hoped their database would have updated to show it was now 40 so no longer needed an MOT but...... no such luck!😩 So looks like I'll have to tax it at the post office with the V112 form stating exempt from MOT.🤔 |
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Post by dc on Apr 8, 2021 8:49:29 GMT 1
why couldnt they apply in june 2020 as was 40 years old then, i have a gsx that was registered in march 81, when is the earliest i can apply then, thanks So looks like I'll have to tax it at the post office with the V112 form stating exempt from MOT.🤔 According to a conversation I had with the DVLA, you still require the MOT this year, you cannot fill out the V112. I double checked their understanding and they confirmed that was the case. Just to save you a trip but feel free to check yourself.  |
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Post by stusco on Apr 8, 2021 8:53:44 GMT 1
Mine is a june 1980 i got mine mot’ed but had to wait until 1/4/21 to get it road tax exempt, I went to the post office with my v5 a week or two earlier and was told no after they scanned the bar code when i went on the first they scanned then wrote historic the tax box and sent my v5 away
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Post by stumpy on Apr 8, 2021 8:58:02 GMT 1
So looks like I'll have to tax it at the post office with the V112 form stating exempt from MOT.🤔 According to a conversation I had with the DVLA, you still require the MOT this year, you cannot fill out the V112. I double checked their understanding and they confirmed that was the case. Just to save you a trip but feel free to check yourself. |
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Post by stusco on Apr 8, 2021 9:05:16 GMT 1
Your insurance could argue weather your bike was road worthy in an accident best get the mot anyway
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Post by howard on Apr 8, 2021 9:05:55 GMT 1
When I check mine online it shows as taxed until 1.7.21 even though I only went to the post office yesterday, the MOT history shows as no results returned but surely if the bike is now registered as historic it would be tax and test exempt.
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Post by dc on Apr 8, 2021 9:13:29 GMT 1
Your insurance could argue weather your bike was road worthy in an accident best get the mot anyway Seen that mentioned a few times on various classic sites. Early days yet but mine is getting one anyway for now. |
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Post by dougw on Apr 8, 2021 11:26:16 GMT 1
Your insurance could argue weather your bike was road worthy in an accident best get the mot anyway Seen that mentioned a few times on various classic sites. Early days yet but mine is getting one anyway for now. Lots claim if you have no MOT you have no insurance. Having had , ahem, personal experience of this (MOT run out), and an accident, it certainly wasn`t true in my case. Maybe I was unusually lucky. |
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Post by stumpy on Apr 8, 2021 14:49:23 GMT 1
According to a conversation I had with the DVLA, you still require the MOT this year, you cannot fill out the V112. I double checked their understanding and they confirmed that was the case. Just to save you a trip but feel free to check yourself. No i believe you thanks, ill have to always MOT as its classed as heavily modified as i read it, but the free tax will be a bonus |
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Post by freddie19 on Apr 8, 2021 15:26:39 GMT 1
So looks like I'll have to tax it at the post office with the V112 form stating exempt from MOT.🤔 According to a conversation I had with the DVLA, you still require the MOT this year, you cannot fill out the V112. I double checked their understanding and they confirmed that was the case. Just to save you a trip but feel free to check yourself. This is from the GOV.UK website: Eligibility The date your vehicle was built or first registered affects whether you need to: get an MOT pay vehicle tax Vehicles that do not need an MOT You do not need to get an MOT if: the vehicle was built or first registered more than 40 years ago. Vehicles exempt from vehicle tax If your vehicle was built before 1 January 1981, you can stop paying vehicle tax from 1 April 2021. So unless I'm reading this wrong, my March 31st 1981 CB900F is now MOT exempt. And will be road tax exempt from 1st April 2022.🙄 |
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Post by dc on May 7, 2021 18:13:49 GMT 1
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Post by rigga on May 7, 2021 20:02:04 GMT 1
Seen that mentioned a few times on various classic sites. Early days yet but mine is getting one anyway for now. Lots claim if you have no MOT you have no insurance. Having had , ahem, personal experience of this (MOT run out), and an accident, it certainly wasn`t true in my case. Maybe I was unusually lucky. Not lucky, having no mot does NOT invalidate insurance In the event of a claim, say stolen, they may make an adjustment to the bikes value payout, but you will still be covered. |
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Post by carioca656 on May 7, 2021 20:13:56 GMT 1
just done mine today took log book to post office they sent it to dvla and told me i now dont need to tax it or mot it but every year still have to fill in tax application even though it doesnt cost anything and show them my v112 form
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Post by earthman on May 8, 2021 9:54:20 GMT 1
Seen that mentioned a few times on various classic sites. Early days yet but mine is getting one anyway for now. Lots claim if you have no MOT you have no insurance. Having had , ahem, personal experience of this (MOT run out), and an accident, it certainly wasn`t true in my case. Maybe I was unusually lucky. I know that some insurance companies will use any excuse not to pay out, motorcycle solicitors White Dalton website is a good source of information on that, and his appearance on some videos on the 44 teeth youtube channel. If the law states that a vehicle of a certain age is exempt from needing an MOT then that's that, why on earth aren't all insurance companies, police and breakdown companies accepting this?......I can't see any judge/court ruling in their favour on this. Maybe that's what needs to happen, they need to be hit with big payouts to prove that their stance is wrong on this, only then will they be singing from the same hymn sheet. The whole MOT certificate and it's proof of a vehicle actually being road worthy is a complete joke/fantasy really, that's what bugs me the most about this, ANY aged vehicle could develop a fault after the day of being inspected. |
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Post by stusco on May 8, 2021 10:06:45 GMT 1
My LC was first registered in June 1980 and I bought in 1990. (V Reg) So just looking for clarification on road tax and MoT, is my bike now exempt? Thanks Same as mine i mot’ed mine but took the docs to the post office on the first of April and got it changed to historic (i tried earlier but had to wait until the first) I didn’t bother with mot exempt as i will still get it done just incase the insurance get nippy |
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Post by jon on May 8, 2021 10:25:36 GMT 1
Has anyone actually phoned their insurance companies to find out if they agree with the exemption, rather than rely on random people’s opinions on the intranet. I know I won’t be risking it so will ask them up front.
Jon
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Post by dc on May 8, 2021 11:03:08 GMT 1
For an example, Carolenash have a web page which has the headline, "Good news for classic motorcycle owners as new MoT exemption rules set to come in for 2018" www.carolenash.com/news/bike-news/detail/good-news-classic-motorcycle-owners-new-mot-exemption-rules-set-come-2018So one would "expect" them to accept the situation. For them to decline a payout based on no MOT, not roadworthy, would seem difficult when they make the comment "Owners of some classic bikes will be spared the annual trip to the MoT station". Of course, the bike should be safe and if someone inspected it if available and found it was clearly unsafe, a missing brake or something, that's a different matter. That's just logical thinking 🤔 |
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Post by rich on May 8, 2021 11:07:57 GMT 1
Did my LC yesterday, (registered 23rd Oct 1980, current Mot runs out 22nd May).
Literally took 2 minutes - I took the V5 and Mot into Post Office, lady tore off the front part, handed me the rest and gave me a zero value receipt.
She did say to cancel the tax direct debit so they don't take any more payments but the last one was only taken a couple of days ago so it should all have completed before the next payment is due.
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Post by stusco on May 8, 2021 13:28:07 GMT 1
Woowho got my historic v5 back today
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Post by stusco on May 8, 2021 13:31:43 GMT 1
Has anyone actually phoned their insurance companies to find out if they agree with the exemption, rather than rely on random people’s opinions on the intranet. I know I won’t be risking it so will ask them up front. Jon I don’t trust insurance companies been stitched in the past,it’s always whats best for them not you |
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Post by earthman on May 9, 2021 13:10:16 GMT 1
Has anyone actually phoned their insurance companies to find out if they agree with the exemption, rather than rely on random people’s opinions on the intranet. I know I won’t be risking it so will ask them up front. Jon The other year I spoke to the chairman of one of the vintage automobile clubs, he certainly knew of some members who had had such problems in the past so it's not just 'random opinions' as such, however he did say that he thought that everyone/organisation would know by now that MOT exemption is totally legal and fine by now. Good suggestion on calling the company you are thinking of putting business their way first, record or getting something in writing first. |
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