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Post by jam911 on Mar 22, 2021 20:41:19 GMT 1
I am currently searching for a 250 / 350 LC and the more I look at I am seeing some with a single horn and some with twin horns.
Is it single for the 250 and twin for the 350?
How did they come out of the factory please?
Thanks
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Post by Gunny on Mar 22, 2021 20:42:13 GMT 1
You`ve answered your own question mate
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Post by jam911 on Mar 22, 2021 20:45:22 GMT 1
See I am learning !!!
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Post by jon on Mar 23, 2021 6:32:10 GMT 1
I always took this for granted without wondering why, but come to think of it; why?
Surely it’s not cost? It must save a few Yen at best?
To have different headlamp ears for the 250 and 350 seems crazy when so much of the bikes are identical.
Jon
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Post by beardy on Mar 23, 2021 8:07:10 GMT 1
I always took this for granted without wondering why, but come to think of it; why? Surely it’s not cost? It must save a few Yen at best? To have different headlamp ears for the 250 and 350 seems crazy when so much of the bikes are identical. Jon You got me thinking the same now. Why? Wonder if the same question has been asked in the Super Dream forum? |
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Post by firmstools on Mar 23, 2021 8:42:06 GMT 1
I always took this for granted without wondering why, but come to think of it; why? Surely it’s not cost? It must save a few Yen at best? To have different headlamp ears for the 250 and 350 seems crazy when so much of the bikes are identical. Jon You got me thinking the same now. Why? Wonder if the same question has been asked in the Super Dream forum? There is a super dream forum? 😲 |
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Post by dezcbr on Mar 23, 2021 8:57:16 GMT 1
You got me thinking the same now. Why? Wonder if the same question has been asked in the Super Dream forum? There is a super dream forum? 😲 I believe someone who was a member of the forum runs it. Was it Shane? |
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Post by wwwRD350LCnet on Mar 23, 2021 19:43:38 GMT 1
I agree with Jon, surprising Yamaha made this difference needing a different bracket !  Xavier |
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Post by reedpete on Mar 23, 2021 19:53:23 GMT 1
I always took this for granted without wondering why, but come to think of it; why? Surely it’s not cost? It must save a few Yen at best? To have different headlamp ears for the 250 and 350 seems crazy when so much of the bikes are identical. Jon The marketers would have probably worked to ensure there was a small ‘tell’ to identify if an approaching bike was 250 or 350... the top shelf model of any variety always tends to have a small feature that can cause a knowing nod from the informed. |
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Post by midlifecrisisrd on Mar 23, 2021 20:03:19 GMT 1
I'd have said a token difference to justify the 350 being more expensive cause let's face it there is not any individual component to make it cost more
There is nothing else to add cost
A piston is a piston, the oil pump is an oil pump, a carb is a carb, an exhaust is an exhaust
All parts were basically the same other than size, baffles, drive gear or jetting
Steve
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Post by Chewie01 on Mar 23, 2021 20:22:57 GMT 1
The second front disk was the obvious give away that it's a 350. Maybe the extra horn was for symmetry reasons to match the front brakes.
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Post by steve h on Mar 23, 2021 22:08:37 GMT 1
The reason why the 350LC has two horns is simple.
Yamaha expected to market the 350 to the home Police force. This required a "nee naw" twin tone, hence the two differing tone horns. All it needed was a relay to switch between horns. The relay was removed from all but the police designated bikes. The 250 was thought to be underpowered for police use, whereas the 350 was considered able to chase down even the largest capacity bikes of the time... and it proved to be a fact, making them all look rather fat and silly.
The task of removing the extra horn on non domestic market 350s was tasked to the operatives who stamped the VIN numbers, but as they were pissed up on sake 100% of the time, they forgot to do it.
HTH
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Post by ajh on Mar 23, 2021 22:50:48 GMT 1
Now Im gonna wire mine up as a siren  |
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Post by veg on Mar 23, 2021 23:38:45 GMT 1
The reason why the 350LC has two horns is simple. Yamaha expected to market the 350 to the home Police force. This required a "nee naw" twin tone, hence the two differing tone horns. All it needed was a relay to switch between horns. The relay was removed from all but the police designated bikes. The 250 was thought to be underpowered for police use, whereas the 350 was considered able to chase down even the largest capacity bikes of the time... and it proved to be a fact, making them all look rather fat and silly. The task of removing the extra horn on non domestic market 350s was tasked to the operatives who stamped the VIN numbers, but as they were pissed up on sake 100% of the time, they forgot to do it. HTH Totally true, and you can also tell which emergency service they were designed for, white n blue police, white n red ambulance the home market red with blue was for the fire service and black n red was ninja. Another little known fact is the rear tray is also the shape of a 9mm beretta and will hold one pistol and one spare clip. Have a look if you don’t believe me. 👍 |
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Post by ajh on Mar 24, 2021 18:00:18 GMT 1
The reason why the 350LC has two horns is simple. Yamaha expected to market the 350 to the home Police force. This required a "nee naw" twin tone, hence the two differing tone horns. All it needed was a relay to switch between horns. The relay was removed from all but the police designated bikes. The 250 was thought to be underpowered for police use, whereas the 350 was considered able to chase down even the largest capacity bikes of the time... and it proved to be a fact, making them all look rather fat and silly. The task of removing the extra horn on non domestic market 350s was tasked to the operatives who stamped the VIN numbers, but as they were pissed up on sake 100% of the time, they forgot to do it. HTH Totally true, and you can also tell which emergency service they were designed for, white n blue police, white n red ambulance the home market red with blue was for the fire service and black n red was ninja. Another little known fact is the rear tray is also the shape of a 9mm beretta and will hold one pistol and one spare clip. Have a look if you don’t believe me. 👍 are you saying they made one for James Bond as well? Or did he sport a walther by the 80s |
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Post by veg on Mar 24, 2021 18:17:02 GMT 1
Walther ppk is a very different firearm, far far smaller, and James Bond is Scottish and he’s not real, let alone not Japanese so wouldn’t have had any say or sway even if he had a voice which he doesn’t as he’s fictional . Jeez.
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Post by headcoats on Mar 24, 2021 19:25:54 GMT 1
One horn is like having one bollock LOL
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Post by steve63 on Mar 24, 2021 20:56:31 GMT 1
Wow! I never knew half of these facts. Thanks!
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Post by steve63 on Mar 24, 2021 20:57:49 GMT 1
Hang on, Ninja.Emergency Service??? 🤔
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Post by veg on Mar 24, 2021 21:02:55 GMT 1
Yea the ninjas is the informal name for the equivalent to our AA or RAC the 4 th emergency service in Japan as if you break down and are unable to move your vehicle you are heavily fined and if over an hour to keep traffic moving they will tow you at your expense very pricey. Hence the tag line which is something like “like a blade we cut through the traffic stealthily we remove you” or something similar.
My Japanese is a little rusty now.
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Post by firmstools on Mar 24, 2021 21:08:04 GMT 1
Walther ppk is a very different firearm, far far smaller, and James Bond is Scottish and he’s not real, let alone not Japanese so wouldn’t have had any say or sway even if he had a voice which he doesn’t as he’s fictional . Jeez. How many years was it till your kids got over you telling them Father Christmas was not real? |
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Post by veg on Mar 24, 2021 21:29:44 GMT 1
Wtf? He is as real as I am. Just because you don’t believe doesn’t make him any less real.
My kid still knows Santa exists, he works in government and if he can believe BoJo and pretty priti, he sure as shite can believe in an existential being created by consumerism.
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Post by steve h on Mar 24, 2021 21:51:24 GMT 1
One horn is like having one bollock LOL A testicle is only able to produce a "male" sperm or a "female" sperm, therefore if you only have one testicle all your children will be either male or female only. This is why men have 2 gonads, so they are able to produce male and female offspring. The human egg is just that...an egg, it has the ability to create either sex. Its all down to chromosomes. So if you have 2 children by the same lady/man with one bollock, 1 boy and 1 girl, you have some serious questions to ask/explain..... |
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Post by steve h on Mar 24, 2021 21:51:53 GMT 1
Walther ppk is a very different firearm, far far smaller, and James Bond is Scottish and he’s not real, let alone not Japanese so wouldn’t have had any say or sway even if he had a voice which he doesn’t as he’s fictional . Jeez. How many years was it till your kids got over you telling them Father Christmas was not real? 31 |
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Post by ajh on Mar 25, 2021 8:48:03 GMT 1
In this strange world you are inhabiting does Father Christmas ride an RD and getting back to the original point did the Japs provide horns that play jingle bells?
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Post by veg on Mar 25, 2021 9:19:03 GMT 1
What use would a motorcycle be in a snow covered winter wonderland?
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Post by midlifecrisisrd on Mar 25, 2021 9:47:41 GMT 1
What use would a motorcycle be in a snow covered winter wonderland? Ah, you have missed the whole marketing play and secret behind the model code People say it was Race Design The truth is that it was ReinDeer 😁😁😁 Steve |
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Post by firmstools on Mar 25, 2021 19:37:45 GMT 1
One horn is like having one bollock LOL A testicle is only able to produce a "male" sperm or a "female" sperm, therefore if you only have one testicle all your children will be either male or female only. This is why men have 2 gonads, so they are able to produce male and female offspring. The human egg is just that...an egg, it has the ability to create either sex. Its all down to chromosomes. So if you have 2 children by the same lady/man with one bollock, 1 boy and 1 girl, you have some serious questions to ask/explain..... So if we believe the youth of today we should have at least 10 bollocks by now then ? Gonna check in a min. |
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Post by jam911 on Mar 25, 2021 20:51:57 GMT 1
Jesus what the hell has this post morphed into  |
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Post by firmstools on Mar 25, 2021 21:01:07 GMT 1
Jesus what the hell has this post morphed into sorry, but the other big boys started it first. |
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