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Post by midlifecrisisrd on Mar 22, 2021 12:23:08 GMT 1
Guy I know who does RD's for a living Got a bike in that had done 87 miles since rebuild This was the crank seal 😱 Steve
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Post by veg on Mar 22, 2021 12:27:04 GMT 1
Ffs should be sued clearly not fit for purpose.
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Post by midlifecrisisrd on Mar 22, 2021 12:31:43 GMT 1
Totally 🙄
Its not that they tore as usual. The rubber has distorted on contact with fuel so totally the wrong material
Luckily it ran like crap so no damage done
Poor guy now getting the bill for a rebuild and new seals
Steve
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Post by JonW on Mar 22, 2021 12:43:31 GMT 1
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Post by abar121 on Mar 22, 2021 12:45:46 GMT 1
Terrible.
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Post by oldbritguy on Mar 22, 2021 12:45:51 GMT 1
That is shocking How many more are like that out there? I know yambits get some bad press for the quality of parts they sell but that is disgraceful considering how vital a part crank seals are.
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Post by tony2stroke on Mar 22, 2021 13:05:32 GMT 1
Shambits strikes again, they really do deserve that name I know some say they are at least doing parts that are unobtainable, but there is no point when this sort of thing happens, or you kickstart lever / side stand snaps, or chrome comes off in a few weeks, how the hell is this company still trading, and more importantly, why do people buy from them, buy cheap and buy twice springs to mind, but sometimes the failure of their cheap rubbish causes much more damage, someone needs to take them to court, as Veg said, clearly not fit for purpose.
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Post by shaunthe2nd on Mar 22, 2021 13:06:12 GMT 1
Terrible. Shouldn't be allowed to sell something not fit for purpose. If they had a few small court claims against them for the engine rebuild cost they would quickly improve their Quality Assurance.
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Post by veg on Mar 22, 2021 13:26:06 GMT 1
What really really grips my sh#t is they know they know they are crap and yet they still keep selling them how the hell is that an enthusiast? If norbs had sold them he’d have withdrawn them immediately, that’s why I have never and will never give them a penny.
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Post by abar121 on Mar 22, 2021 13:44:54 GMT 1
This should be posted on their FB page, FB RD groups, twitter etc.
They will have to respond then.
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Post by reedpete on Mar 22, 2021 14:28:29 GMT 1
This should be posted on their FB page, FB RD groups, twitter etc. They will have to respond then. Unfortunately their historical approach has simply to be to black ball and ban people. On a FB page where they hold moderating powers they will simply delete.... the simple truth is that many, far to many, of the parts they sell are not fit for purpose or result in an expectation gap based on the OEM part they replace. Yet they are sold along side a lot of genuine Yamaha parts ( most of which you can buy cheaper elsewhere) that create a persuasive illusion that they are a in some way a ‘certified dealer’.... in this situation they are faced with the typical dilemmas of what to do with a large minimum order quantity shipment of junk. The terms of trade and geographical distance back to the Far East and India means there’s no chance to return. Scrapping a whole shipment is same as burning cash...the other option is to just keep pedalling it out...make the unsuspecting ‘know no better’ suck it up.... yet their business seemingly thrives. A few reasons, their markups on their own brand stuff are huge, the majority of their customers have minimal or no understanding of what they are buying. I suppose In the modern world that’s to be expected. Lastly their mostly British customer base is probably too polite to complain or simply lacks the confidence and knowledge to articulate the problem. if you have an engineering/manufacturing background all is obvious, otherwise you are simply the next lemming over the edge...
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Post by stotty on Mar 22, 2021 14:33:02 GMT 1
No excuse for this...none at all
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Post by liffy16 on Mar 22, 2021 14:53:26 GMT 1
That's bad really bad,have had a few things off them in the past,not a lot like,but not anymore 👎👎
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Post by bare on Mar 22, 2021 16:53:19 GMT 1
Real question being: Why is this shoppe Still in business?
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Post by veg on Mar 22, 2021 16:55:54 GMT 1
Real question being: Why is this shoppe Still in business? He’s been trading for years and gets away with it used to be called ye olde yam bits shoppe changed to yam bits about 1990.
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Post by jackjabba on Mar 22, 2021 18:08:59 GMT 1
If I saw that with no explanation I would have said it looks like its been in back to front and someone has tried to change it without splitting the cases.
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Post by jon on Mar 22, 2021 18:20:00 GMT 1
I guess the real reason they haven’t been pulled up on this with the courts, is because:
1) no-one has been killed. 2) no-one has yet to be bothered to chase it through the courts.
Seriously could anyone be bothered to do it? Would they stick their neck on the line with the numerous testaments? I for one couldn’t be bothered to go down this route, but would quite happily take a day out to testify of my own experience if someone else did.
That’s why they get away with it. Because they’ve had the little man over rather than a big corporation.
I like many others simply deal with my disappointment of their products by simply refusing to ever give them any more business. Vote with your feet.
Jon
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Post by justyr on Mar 22, 2021 18:24:21 GMT 1
They’ve been selling these to customers for years, repeatedly causing engine failures and huge rebuild costs. Shameful.
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Post by st66 on Mar 22, 2021 18:30:09 GMT 1
I was aware of the seals these people sold didn't want to bother so I had a dig in the old box of spares and I found a seal that fitted perfectly now for the life of me I can't remember who made it, it is one of the following BMW FORD OR SUZUKI, as I had loads in the bottom of my box from different manufacturers, now something in my mind tells me it's a gearbox seal for a selector rod on a Ford g/box it fits perfectly and the quality is well excellent, I will have a dig and find out as I know they are available still just can't femember who makes them and not that expensive about 2,50 if I remember, I've used it on mine and never a sniff of an oil leak super tight seal around the rod and fits perfect in the whole with a tap,all steel outer shell and a spring seal around the inner whole the preasure from the gearbox creates the seal as the original yamaha one ,,, ile find out guys,,, hate it when this happens mind numb,,,
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Post by jon on Mar 22, 2021 18:36:05 GMT 1
That’s interesting.
Of course Yamaha are very unlikely to have made the seals themselves, they’d of farmed them out. Just like tyres, electronic components, bulbs, seals and bearings, and who knows what else?
Finding a like for like part without the ‘Yamaha’ markup may be a godsend.
Jon
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Post by midlifecrisisrd on Mar 22, 2021 18:54:51 GMT 1
I'm sure they are made in Japan by ARS
It is possible to buy them from other sources but it would be the quantity you would have to buy
It may be worth looking into now as Yam are now charging £16 each for them
Its a £5 seal FFS 🙄
Steve
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Post by arrdy350 on Mar 22, 2021 19:15:28 GMT 1
That is mad just 87 miles 🤯
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Post by Yogi on Mar 22, 2021 20:23:14 GMT 1
Wow that’s looks like a chewed jelly baby
Not surprising it’s a shambits part 🥴
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Post by headcoats on Mar 22, 2021 20:25:25 GMT 1
This is the thing , Yambits to a newcomer will look the all singing dancing place to get parts from
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Post by dusty350 on Mar 22, 2021 20:44:21 GMT 1
And it doesn't help when bike mags like Motorcycle Mechanics sing their praises when using Shambits parts on some of their featured rebuilds. No doubt Shambits either gift the parts free or at a hugely discounted rate to promote the business - lots must read the articles and think Shambits is the place to buy parts !
Dusty
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Post by liffy16 on Mar 22, 2021 21:09:37 GMT 1
And it doesn't help when bike mags like Motorcycle Mechanics sing their praises when using Shambits parts on some of their featured rebuilds. No doubt Shambits either gift the parts free or at a hugely discounted rate to promote the business - lots must read the articles and think Shambits is the place to buy parts ! Definitely smells of some backhanders on that regard, not that I've bought motorcycle mechanics for years they just repeat what was said 12 Months previous
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Post by chippy348 on Mar 22, 2021 21:27:56 GMT 1
I'm sure they are made in Japan by ARS It is possible to buy them from other sources but it would be the quantity you would have to buy It may be worth looking into now as Yam are now charging £16 each for them Its a £5 seal FFS 🙄 Steve The original Yamaha one made by ARS in Japan and it is this one we (PJME) have sold for years, it is the same as Yamaha one, exactly the same. Our suppler changed and got them made in china by SFK, and although they are said to be ok they are not what i want to sell. So i have had to go and source the ARS ones from Japan. I may be wrong but i think YB got them made for them in India ? and it is these that had issues, i am not sure what they are supplying now ? i guess the SFK ones ?? What i will say is previous to this issue which i think is getting on for 10 + years ? we never got asked what we were supplying, we did not offer the genuine seal as there was no need as the ones we were selling were of genuine descent. We now sell 50/50
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Post by tony2stroke on Mar 22, 2021 21:33:26 GMT 1
I'm sure they are made in Japan by ARS It is possible to buy them from other sources but it would be the quantity you would have to buy It may be worth looking into now as Yam are now charging £16 each for them Its a £5 seal FFS 🙄 Steve The original Yamaha one made by ARS in Japan and it is this one we (PJME) have sold for years, it is the same as Yamaha one, exactly the same. Our suppler changed and got them made in china by SFK, and although they are said to be ok they are not what i want to sell. So i have had to go and source the ARS ones from Japan. I may be wrong but i think YB got them made for them in India ? and it is these that had issues, i am not sure what they are supplying now ? i guess the SFK ones ?? What i will say is previous to this issue which i think is getting on for 10 + years ? we never got asked what we were supplying, we did not offer the genuine seal as there was no need as the ones we were selling were of genuine descent. We now sell 50/50 Its a shame that you seam to be a rare breed these days, well done, and keep up the excellent work you do.
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Post by midlifecrisisrd on Mar 22, 2021 21:37:23 GMT 1
It has spoiled it for good non genuine seals
I know every time I've had a crank rebuild I've been offered crank seals for £10 and like a mug I never take them as despite it being from a reputable company the pattern seals are tainted by the crap
Knowing you sell quality seals makes a difference then and gives us another option
Hopefully you do a quality Jap water pump seal 😉
Steve
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Post by headcoats on Mar 22, 2021 21:42:56 GMT 1
Little end bearings next !
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