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Post by 29davyt on Jan 24, 2021 11:55:39 GMT 1
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Post by dusty350 on Jan 24, 2021 11:58:48 GMT 1
Pure greed I'm afraid  Think they've had a bad rep on here before. Dusty |
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Post by Norbo on Jan 24, 2021 12:11:56 GMT 1
Its a lovely bike and a minter but for that kind of money i would want original seat and mas cyl . id want it it as new and original . for that moneyt i want it new reoly
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Post by liffy16 on Jan 24, 2021 12:16:32 GMT 1
Poor photos no description about the bike,very poor advert,this will be for sale for a very long time, up to the point when they will actually be worth 13k!!
2035 maybe??
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Post by 29davyt on Jan 24, 2021 12:18:16 GMT 1
Agree with you there Norbo , it’s not even a concourse build is it ? Front muddy looks different to mine, no brace fitted ?? or is there ??
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Post by fletche36 on Jan 24, 2021 12:27:53 GMT 1
and now everybody else thinks theirs is worth that little bit more! thats how it happens  |
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Post by midlifecrisisrd on Jan 24, 2021 12:30:45 GMT 1
Agree with you there Norbo , it’s not even a concourse build is it ? Front muddy looks different to mine, no brace fitted ?? or is there ?? ?? Muddy looks like lc2 Steve |
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Post by dusty350 on Jan 24, 2021 12:35:59 GMT 1
It's got over 20,000 on the clock. Not loads, but not minimal either.
Greed, pure and simple !
Dusty
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Post by 29davyt on Jan 24, 2021 13:24:28 GMT 1
and now everybody else thinks theirs is worth that little bit more! thats how it happens I only wanted £9999 for mine but reckon it worth at least £10999 now 😂😂😂😂 |
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Post by oldelsieboy on Jan 24, 2021 13:30:28 GMT 1
Agree with you there Norbo , it’s not even a concourse build is it ? Front muddy looks different to mine, no brace fitted ?? or is there ?? ?? Muddy looks like lc2 Steve Tis OEB |
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Post by jon on Jan 24, 2021 13:42:27 GMT 1
I’ve got two LC hybrids, both with wide wheels so I’m not an LC expert.
But, isn’t there supposed to be a split pin in the torque arm stud? Maybe not?
Jon
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Post by ajh on Jan 24, 2021 15:52:53 GMT 1
just looks too shiny to me. Makes me think its not genuine!
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Post by 2banger on Jan 24, 2021 16:51:07 GMT 1
Most of us aren't getting any younger and as the average Elsie owner is over fifty, it's a good time to sell as the desireablity fades as the years pass on.
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Post by headcoats on Jan 24, 2021 16:56:22 GMT 1
Comes to a stage now when for your money you can buy so much else
Selling my one LC to get a few years old bike hopefully this year
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Post by thomas on Jan 24, 2021 17:19:56 GMT 1
Comes to a stage now when for your money you can buy so much else Selling my one LC to get a few years old bike hopefully this year That’s very true, just look at the prices of the ktm390 or the bmw310r. |
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Post by 123 on Jan 24, 2021 17:21:10 GMT 1
They be some fool by it thats why prices are so high
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Post by 29davyt on Jan 24, 2021 17:31:34 GMT 1
Comes to a stage now when for your money you can buy so much else Selling my one LC to get a few years old bike hopefully this year I paid a grand less for my 1000rr last year, not even 2 years old ,, nostalgia ! It’s an expensive past time 🧐 |
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Post by steve h on Jan 24, 2021 18:14:59 GMT 1
Plastic plugs missing in mirrors, m/cyl top not original?, brake lines not original and have bright zinc finish. non oem plug caps...dear oh dear....
Neds to be "right" and pass all rivit counters.....
It's a wreck...
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Post by billyboy on Jan 24, 2021 18:17:52 GMT 1
Most of us aren't getting any younger and as the average Elsie owner is over fifty, it's a good time to sell as the desireablity fades as the years pass on. I thought this , it's not happening with old Brit stuff tho . |
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Post by liffy16 on Jan 24, 2021 18:30:20 GMT 1
I thought this , it's not happening with old Brit stuff tho . Yea the British stuff has levelled out a bit in the last for years ,thought norton commando prices were going through the roof but seemed to have settled at around 10k |
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Post by lcmarky on Jan 24, 2021 19:04:39 GMT 1
New bikes depreciate and these old Elsies don’t, they accumulate & I think that has or certainly should have something to do with their value which is the same for other classics.
Yes you can buy a good amount of new bike for say £10k (new Tuono 660 anyone), but in 2 years the Elsie has risen and the new one’s depreciated at least 25% and all this adds to the initial value.
I have a mix of old and new so man maths works out about cost neutral and seeing as there’s no room in our coffins for our bikes we should get the most of them while we can plus there aren’t many available in this kind of condition.
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Post by lcmarky on Jan 24, 2021 19:06:28 GMT 1
Should add I don’t know the first thing about the seller mind.
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Post by bare on Jan 24, 2021 19:11:15 GMT 1
Reasonable to assume the 'bubble' has Or is about to burst.
The day that one runs out of 'bigger fools' is It.
13K for a cheap mass market bike.. that sold for 1700$ New is unquestionably a Bubble price.
Save your coin ? there may be some relative bargains .. soon.
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Post by Chewie01 on Jan 24, 2021 19:39:56 GMT 1
The supply of bikes for sale has dried up since the lock downs started, which would push prices up. Maybe prices will come down again when we are on the other side of it, but we are a long way from there.
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Post by 2banger on Jan 24, 2021 19:51:42 GMT 1
Most of us aren't getting any younger and as the average Elsie owner is over fifty, it's a good time to sell as the desireablity fades as the years pass on. I thought this , it's not happening with old Brit stuff tho . Genuine Vintage value is determined by available units . |
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Post by tony2stroke on Jan 24, 2021 20:21:11 GMT 1
The RDLC is an icon, same as Ford escort MK1 MK2, MK1 mini cooper, E type Jag, the Cosworth and the like, I think they will still be popular in another 20 years easy, there are lots of us here, and more join every day, I don't think they are going out of fashion any time soon.
I watch bangers and cash (love that program) and I see a healthy mix of people a lot older than the most of us, they are still buying things from their time, you get to an age where you want all this our generation stuff you couldn't afford when younger, or the stuff your dad had, watched a MK1 mini cooper that was just a pile of rust go for 17 grand odd, very little salvageable on it, needed new everything.
Though I have noticed the older the buyer, the more important it seams to be that whatever it is is in standard near mint condition, some buy to do up, but I see most even then want it all original near as new condition.
At the end of the day though, its down to the buyer to do their own research when buying such things, there are very few original LC's out there now, they are nearly all trig's brooms anyway, built from second hand German parts mainly, so think on that next time your looking at a low mileage matching numbers UK bike, and that's where this site comes in so handy, someone will know if you are getting a good deal or not, and also tell you if it has the wrong rivet in the front mudguard.
Just some of my observations.
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Post by 29davyt on Jan 24, 2021 20:44:43 GMT 1
Bangers and Cash,, I love that programme.. yes I saw the episode with the cooperS, after all the people raved about it’s originality the buyers then said it would be re shelled !! well tbh that was the only option open to it wasn’t it ? So is it then original ? No of course it isn’t but swapping the vin over would result in a £50K car !! Shocking tbh , I always thought it was illegal ? .. it’s not just the iconic bike prices that appear to be rising but anything late 70’s / 80’s ,, even a scabby Superdream can command a decent price these days ( or so it seems) yeah they were crap along with most of the stuff from that era, that said I can’t see LC prices falling to much, if you paid £500 for your ride 25 years ago your in safe hands, if you shell £13K out for one next week ,, well that’s another story ...
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Post by steve h on Jan 24, 2021 22:57:58 GMT 1
The world is nuts....but not half as nuts as it's baw bag occupants....
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Post by 2banger on Jan 25, 2021 10:10:42 GMT 1
Government has injected free money into System due to covid 19. Motorhomes and some classic vehicles demand out striped supply in 2020. Many financially have more disposable income in 2020 due to furlough money and taking mortgage holidays. With more restrictions looking likely furlough could be extended beyond April. With Brexit sand storm starting to take reality hit this may be enough to bring prices down for 2022 with people disposable income taking a hit in next 12 months. |
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Post by sulzeruk on Jan 25, 2021 12:51:13 GMT 1
As soon as furlough ends, there will be a massive load of redundancies as many bankrupt businesses have been kept afloat with our tax dollars. Tax will go through the roof to pay back all the spending so lots of toys will be cashed in creating another crash like the late 80s/ early 90s. Folk arn't spending money at the moment on holidays, cars, etc so have loads of free time and spare cash to spend hence the price of projects being double than what they usually are and lots of folk chancing their arm for piles of scrap. Alasdair
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