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Post by pedheadfred on Oct 13, 2020 22:11:37 GMT 1
Hello all I've just registered on the site Iam based in deepest Darkest Lincolnshire 10 miles north of Boston. I've lots of 2 strokes including mopeds 125cc bikes and a few race bikes 50cc up to vfr750 size. I've just bought from a mate a rz250 that looks like the UK rd350 f11 a Brazilian import it's got a nova but I need to do quite a bit of work on it as wiring looms missing. It's actually a runner but got a short ignition loom on it and needs carbs cleaning and some missing parts aswell. Who is best for dating certificate ?
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Post by lcmarky on Oct 13, 2020 22:16:15 GMT 1
Welcome. Suggest you get that rear rim dent sorted too..
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Post by arrow on Oct 13, 2020 22:21:13 GMT 1
Welcome to the forum.
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Post by shaunthe2nd on Oct 13, 2020 22:30:28 GMT 1
Welcome aboard, plenty of good advice and banter on here. Just sling a bucket over it and should be good to go..... not.
Enjoy getting it back on the road and reliving your youth.
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Post by pedheadfred on Oct 13, 2020 22:31:01 GMT 1
Welcome. Suggest you get that rear rim dent sorted too.. It's got replacement wheels so not a problem 😀 I could of always heated it up n smacked it back in to shape . Or destroyed it in doing so
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Post by pedheadfred on Oct 13, 2020 22:37:06 GMT 1
My mates actually started some work on it since this picture he replaced the rear wheel and handlebars fitted a ignition switch and bought a chain guard, Plus a few other bits. He needed some cash quickly and said he was thinking of selling it, so I bought it for £1000 cash. Cheap I thought but as said needs some parts and work but motor sounds really good.
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Post by kosaprasa on Oct 13, 2020 23:06:13 GMT 1
what is code of the bike?
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Post by pedheadfred on Oct 13, 2020 23:30:20 GMT 1
Vin is 1yro according to nova not looked at bike as only picked it up at 7:30 it's still in the van 🧐
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Post by JonW on Oct 13, 2020 23:52:30 GMT 1
Assume this is a twin headlight 'R' model from the pic? Looks to have led a life and a half already, so is ripe for restoration
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Post by dusty350 on Oct 14, 2020 7:11:41 GMT 1
Hi Welcome to the forum A grand is a bargain nowadays. Enjoy the rebuild Dusty
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Post by cb250g5 on Oct 14, 2020 8:31:19 GMT 1
I'm in Lincoln. That looks like a F1, with short side panels and tank filler, not an F2.
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Post by midlifecrisisrd on Oct 14, 2020 8:53:25 GMT 1
Welcome in sir 😁
For Yam model dating letters I use Yamaha customer services
Costs a little more but they will give an exact date and they are valid for 1 year
You can also go to the aircooled rd forum and get a cheaper dating letter but they are only valid for 6 months so if you get delayed you have to pay again
Vin number wise check and let us know what it is
Don't recognise the prefix (nothing like any I've seen) but it's from an obscure country maybe
If you take the tank off and find the cdi it should have a 5 digit ID on it which will help identify which loom would work
Also think that fairing is not original
Steve
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Post by pedheadfred on Oct 14, 2020 12:02:46 GMT 1
Thanks for response from everybody exact model F1 ? I don't know but engine has prefix 1yr rectangle headlight not twin round lights.
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Post by midlifecrisisrd on Oct 14, 2020 12:33:46 GMT 1
You sure it's not JYR
Steve
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Post by midlifecrisisrd on Oct 14, 2020 12:41:15 GMT 1
There is something non standard with the top fairing as it should not have infill panels
It looks similar to the F1 but they were 350's
Check the vin on the headstock Check the code on the cdi Check the code on the side of the barrels at the reeds
These 3 things should identify most bits
It looks like a 51L model 250 (F1 was 57v)
The vin may suggest it's a USA bike or the likes with a modern 17 digit vin number
Steve
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Post by JonW on Oct 14, 2020 12:44:52 GMT 1
It looks similar to the F1 but they were 350's ... It looks like a 51L model 250 (F1 was 57v) Steve Steve, The 250 is also an F1... Same as there is a 250 N1! The F1 is the first faired YPVS, it came out in 1985... in both 350 and 250 engine sizes... I know you know this... And rinse and repeat for the F/N2.
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Post by JonW on Oct 14, 2020 12:46:00 GMT 1
I'm in Lincoln. That looks like a F1, with short side panels and tank filler, not an F2. Good spot, I missed the side panels and the tank... I was too drawn in by the top fairing and the shroud round the clocks.
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Post by pedheadfred on Oct 14, 2020 12:50:22 GMT 1
Defo this as is frame
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Post by pedheadfred on Oct 14, 2020 12:53:33 GMT 1
The throttle body has this on it but it's got no guts inside
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Post by JonW on Oct 14, 2020 12:56:05 GMT 1
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Post by JonW on Oct 14, 2020 12:57:50 GMT 1
RH switch block is not something coded. What does the CDI say? 29L-50 i would think... unless it says 51L-50... what does it say on side of cyls? 29L or 51L or something else?
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Post by midlifecrisisrd on Oct 14, 2020 13:03:19 GMT 1
It looks similar to the F1 but they were 350's ... It looks like a 51L model 250 (F1 was 57v) Steve Steve, The 250 is also an F1... Same as there is a 250 N1! The F1 is the first faired YPVS, it came out in 1985... in both 350 and 250 engine sizes... I know you know this... And rinse and repeat for the F/N2. Yes very aware of that but I was meaning an F1 57v parts list or manual will not be accurate As we know the lucky buggers that got the 51L know there are a lot of differences 😉 Steve
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Post by JonW on Oct 14, 2020 13:07:58 GMT 1
Steve, The 250 is also an F1... Same as there is a 250 N1! The F1 is the first faired YPVS, it came out in 1985... in both 350 and 250 engine sizes... I know you know this... And rinse and repeat for the F/N2. Yes very aware of that but I was meaning an F1 57v parts list or manual will not be accurate As we know the lucky buggers that got the 51L know there are a lot of differences 😉 Steve Haha, I dunno how lucky we are, parts are getting harder to find now. We should have kept our traps shut about em lol IMHO The 57V parts list is great for 95% of the 250 tho, has all the fairing, loom and other F1 stuff. Its only the engine's top end, carbs and pipes that differ on the 250 with the 51L engine, same as with the IUA parts list against say a 1XG. FWIW there is a 1GA parts list out there (Xavier has it i think?) but nothing for the F2 1XG to download, but the Aussie parts websites sometimes have online versions, tho most of their online stuff starts in 88, but you can get lucky.
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Post by midlifecrisisrd on Oct 14, 2020 13:08:10 GMT 1
RH switch block is not something coded. What does the CDI say? 29L-50 i would think... unless it says 51L-50... what does it say on side of cyls? 29L or 51L or something else? Oi!, I asked that 🤣 That throttle housing has a second hole so push/pull cable so supposed to have linked carbs Think this may have been messed with a little lol Steve
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Post by JonW on Oct 14, 2020 13:09:51 GMT 1
RH switch block is not something coded. What does the CDI say? 29L-50 i would think... unless it says 51L-50... what does it say on side of cyls? 29L or 51L or something else? Oi!, I asked that 🤣 That throttle housing has a second hole so push/pull cable so supposed to have linked carbs Think this may have been messed with a little lol Steve Ooops, Didnt see you ask about that. lol So linked carbs... Japanese or USA spec? Tho not sure what South Africa or Brazil had back in 85... hmm... As we know 51L Aussie bikes have twin pull PJ Miks, the JDM 51Ls got single pull linked carbs.
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Post by midlifecrisisrd on Oct 14, 2020 13:11:52 GMT 1
The higher bars makes me think 51L
Maybe another part again as I know things like GPZ's had higher bars in the US
Brazil may be a good call, were a load of these not brought in from Venezuela by the eBay guy
Steve
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Post by JonW on Oct 14, 2020 13:15:00 GMT 1
The higher bars makes me think 51L Maybe another part again as I know things like GPZ's had higher bars in the US Brazil may be a good call, were a load of these not brought in from Venezuela by the eBay guy Steve Aussie 51Ls have 57V bars so standard F1 but I agree the bars look high too... but not F1 bars at all, they dont have open inner ends with plugs. More like F2 rounded end bars. The USA didnt have any RZs with fairings, so nothing that didnt have straight 83/4 bars.
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Post by JonW on Oct 14, 2020 13:20:48 GMT 1
Another thing that makes me think its a proper F1 is that it has the correct rear light bracket. I know plenty on here will think... 'WTF?! how did he know that... and whats the difference... ' Well... The 83 has a hole that has a flat for indicator to locate at 90 degrees to the road, the 85 has different inds, so has a small knobble that the indicator has a small hole to accomodate, as it has this it has a fully round hole. You can see the hole and the knobble in the pic if you zoom.
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Post by veg on Oct 14, 2020 13:21:51 GMT 1
Who cares what it is it was a grand, £1000, £1k, a bag, a bag a sand, two monkeys.
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Post by midlifecrisisrd on Oct 14, 2020 13:24:49 GMT 1
Another thing that makes me think its a proper F1 is that it has the correct rear light bracket. I know plenty on here will think... 'WTF?! how did he know that... and whats the difference... ' Well... The 83 has a hole that has a flat for indicator to locate at 90 degrees to the road, the 85 has different inds, so has a small knobble that the indicator has a small hole to accomodate, as it has this it has a fully round hole. You can see the hole and the knobble in the pic if you zoom. Still don't think it's called an F lol I thought it was just RZ250R like the paintwork but we never got them so who the feck am I lol Yes you are right on the Indy holes, can't see them on my phone My bet is South American RZ250R (51L) hence supposed to have linked carbs Check the bars on this pic 😉
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