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Post by Mr M T Pockets on Sept 27, 2020 22:29:33 GMT 1
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Post by Deleted on Sept 28, 2020 7:19:40 GMT 1
Most likely illegal I’d say
A bit like the little “Fully Loaded” android boxes you used to buy that now come up with prompts saying you breach international copyright or words to that effect
We can’t load any iptv in Aus now due to this
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Post by dusty350 on Sept 28, 2020 7:36:59 GMT 1
So, is anyone using this or anything like it ? I had IPTV for a year, and although very hit or miss in the early part, you literally could watch virtually every channel available anywhere. Obviously illegal coz I got all the Sky sports, movies etc for £40 a year. I don't watch Tv during the summer months but winter is coming ! Dusty  |
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Post by earthman on Sept 28, 2020 9:33:30 GMT 1
Can you watch the Long Way Up series via this I wonder??
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Post by midlifecrisisrd on Sept 28, 2020 10:59:08 GMT 1
Just a thought 🤔
If this illegal app allows you to watch other people's personal stuff would you trust that the download of it doesn't just hack your cameras and you join the watched ones
Steve
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Post by Mr M T Pockets on Sept 28, 2020 12:03:21 GMT 1
If you have a vpn you have nothing to worry about,
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Post by earthman on Sept 28, 2020 12:13:39 GMT 1
If you have a vpn you have nothing to worry about, Or no camera/a piece of tape placed over it in the first place? Lol Any program/app is a concern I feel to be honest,...I never asked for Google to put a covid tracing thing on my phone but it's there! Can't delete/get rid of it, it says it's off but how do we know that that won't change in the future? |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 28, 2020 12:38:48 GMT 1
Yes to the VPN, I still suspect that essentially it's illegal to do use, if it was legal why do we need a VPN ? Just saying not judging
I tried a few IPTV links a few weeks back and paid for them and none of them worked, so I'm always a bit bit suspicious about the claims, surprisingly I did get my money back via paypal
There is not much detail on the website as to who the company is, apparently they are based in Switzerland, and just because it's on the Apple or google store doesn't mean it's legit or malicious
As for the Covid app, well, IF the thing works as it should it can save lives, IF it doesn't work as it should then it won't, I doubt there is anything sinister about it, we have it too and can download and delete it as we please, our company basically said to download it on our company phones and ipads to attempt to keep us out of harms way
They are extremely suspicious of third party apps and our IT gurus gave it the all clear, I know these people and I trust them
In my opinion there are far too many conspiracy theories that have been debunked about Covid
I'd say you have nothing to worry about, again not judging, you can believe what you want to believe, no problems from me
Take care, stay safe and stay well
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Post by earthman on Sept 28, 2020 19:37:05 GMT 1
In my opinion there are far too many conspiracy theories that have been debunked about Covid Yes, most of it comes from our own government and main media it would seem.  This guy goes into the official UK's figures/statistics on the matter,.....check out the NHS link, he's right. |
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Post by donkeychomp on Sept 28, 2020 22:28:09 GMT 1
I f**king knew it.
Alex
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Post by earthman on Sept 28, 2020 23:03:38 GMT 1
Finally Politician Speaks Sense In Parliament. |
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Post by midlifecrisisrd on Sept 29, 2020 9:18:51 GMT 1
It's all very well saying that only people with an underlying medical condition are at risk of death but when you consider there are 15 million people in England who are known to have one that's a lot of people
Also yes people are surviving it but how many are being left with lung damage
Yes many are getting no or mild symptoms but those who do suffer bad symptoms are left with damage that will no doubt come back to haunt them
The day when not going to the pub late, not wearing a mask or not social distancing (let's face it if that had been happening to any degree when lockdown ended we wouldn't be where we are now) is more valuable than a life is a very sad day indeed
And do you think it's a coincidence it's all blown up after Uni's went back?
We've all seen the pics of them during Freshers. The people who will be the future of us all just couldn't be sensible.
People with mates and family in the house too
That's why restrictions are back
Previous generations fought and died for us, we can't just not spit on each other for a while 🙄
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Post by earthman on Sept 29, 2020 11:21:43 GMT 1
It is a sad fact of life that folk who already have underlying health issues will die,..how many per year does the annual flu finish off for example?
There are many risks in life but at 1% and at number 24 on the list, this one is falling behind thankfully yet the government and some folk just can't seem to see it.
According to ROSPA, motorcyclists make up 18% of road deaths for example, now that figure is far higher than 1% yet we are all still riding on the road.
Taking harsh measures on anything that's got a 1% rate is rather irrational don't you think? Especially when said measures are actually resulting in more death and harm to the majority of the population. It truly doesn't make sense to me.
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Post by midlifecrisisrd on Sept 29, 2020 11:39:04 GMT 1
But 1% of the world population is 78,000,000 people
What we doing here, another holocaust to clear the planet of the weak
No one knows how this is going to play out long term, you can't gather statistics from an initial 6 month period
It wasn't so long ago people were shouting at the government to act more quickly, now they are slated for doing too much
Not saying they are doing it right or wrong, it's just an impossible situation, not everybody will be happy with whatever they do
As far as I see it the people doing the most harm are the "I'm not wearing a mask, you can't tell me what to do" crowd
It is such a small thing to do. They can't complain about the situation when a mask and hand hygiene is all that's really required to control this
Steve
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Post by veg on Sept 29, 2020 13:19:18 GMT 1
My dad passed last year (not of Covid) is do anything to have a day with him yes he had underlying health issues but if some selfish t**t compromised that because of their ‘rights’ honestly I’d bury them, my son when he was born was in intensive care for 2 months wasn’t a thing I’d have done to make him ok, if some selfish prick wrote him off because his life wasn’t worth them wearing a mask I’d f**king bury them.
For the sake of someone you may not know whose life may be adversely effected by your f**king selfishness wear a f**king mask .
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Post by earthman on Sept 29, 2020 13:57:21 GMT 1
Sorry but 1% of anything is such a tiny amount,..more people die and are going to die of cancer etc due to now being shit scared of going into a hospital.
There is no proof that masks actually work or that the virus knows what time of day it is either.
I can't believe that the people in governments around the world are that stupid,...so I can't help but feel that they have other motives in destroying folks lives and the economy.
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Post by veg on Sept 29, 2020 15:14:34 GMT 1
Well I really really hope it doesn’t effect you or anyone you love. Because I guarantee if it did your 1% analogy goes out of the window.
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Post by midlifecrisisrd on Sept 29, 2020 15:20:37 GMT 1
That was my thoughts too
You better be confident you don't have one you don't know about
I don't have that luxury. 4 out of 5 close family have conditions
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Post by Deleted on Sept 29, 2020 17:22:04 GMT 1
What price do you put on a human life ?
Are you prepared to let people die over the economy ?
Wearing a mask won't kill you, not wearing one may kill someone else
If that someone else is a father, a mother, a wife or a child that is a close relative of yours and you could have prevented that death by wearing that mask, how do you think you'd feel ?
Rather than the government destroying peoples lives you and others like you will have done it for them
I'm sorry to say, however masks are one of the most effective ways of stopping the spread of the virus, look at the scientific research not some bumpkin who still thinks the world is flat
Why In an operating theatre in hospital do you think the surgeons and staff wear masks, it's to stop disease from spreading, there is no difference in the operating theatre to real life
1% may seem like a small proportion, however when you are talking about big numbers of population of the world that 1% then represents a large quantity of people who can die
If you think the virus is not real go and hug or kiss someone that has it and see what happens to you, that's the problem, all the conspiracy theorists sit behind a screen but don't go and find out what other people are going through because, guess what, they don't want to catch it, however they are still prepared to say it's a hoax
Try telling that the virus doesn't exist to all the families around the world, and there are now probably more than 1 million of them, that have lost a loved one to this virus
Sorry earthman your argument is dumb, just like the conspiracy theorists, the only thing is that you will never convince a conspiracy theorist who doesn't want to believe in the scientific truth
So rather than give them or you more oxygen I think this thread should end
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Post by earthman on Sept 29, 2020 18:05:44 GMT 1
First of all, I am not a 'conspiracy theorists' and I may not be the brightest person on the planet but I'm far from being dumb!
Sorry but there are lots of doctors and scientists who have spoken up too, you want to discount their data/scientific research too?
Of course I don't want anyone I know to get this virus, like I don't want them to die in a road traffic accident,....should we close all the roads/ban traffic then?
OK, here's 13 basic questions, can you provide some rational answers to them, to help make sense/get the country/world out of this mess?
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Post by veg on Sept 29, 2020 18:24:36 GMT 1
The traffic accident analogy is bollocks. You have to have a licence and pass a test, you drive a car on a road with like trained individuals (who don’t suddenly swerve at you as it is there right) you have vehicles with both active and passive safety options etc etc etc would you ride down the road not wearing a helmet or safety gear? not wearing a mask is a ridiculous thing not to do. What is your reluctance to do so? How does it intrude on you or inconvenience you?
If the ‘state’ was behind this a war would be far quicker and far cheaper whilst funding the biggest industry in the world arms manufacturers surely that would be a far quicker and cleaner way of culling the population?
I have yet to see or hear anything that persuades me that these tin foil hat wearing nutters are anything other than that, anti establishment conspiracy nutters.
They are also now aligning themselves to Qanon with all their right wing conspiracy theories.
Sorry but why?
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Post by veg on Sept 29, 2020 18:28:47 GMT 1
In fact as Howard says this is a pointless discussion. You either believe it all in which case there is no discussion or you’re posting it for effect in which case there is no discussion.
You’re entitled to your opinions as I am mine I don’t agree with you you sure as shite don’t agree with mine so let’s leave it at that shall we?
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Post by earthman on Sept 29, 2020 20:10:27 GMT 1
The traffic accident analogy is bollocks. Sorry but the figures aren't. How can you argue with figures/statistics? 18% is far greater than 1% so as motorcyclists we all have more chance of dying on the road.  |
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Post by earthman on Sept 29, 2020 20:13:31 GMT 1
In fact as Howard says this is a pointless discussion. You either believe it all in which case there is no discussion or you’re posting it for effect in which case there is no discussion. You’re entitled to your opinions as I am mine I don’t agree with you you sure as shite don’t agree with mine so let’s leave it at that shall we? I'm trying to understand where you are coming from and why you/some folk can't/won't even entertain the possibility of something else going on here. |
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Post by midlifecrisisrd on Sept 29, 2020 20:17:23 GMT 1
1700 dead each year from RTA's So if 18% is right that about 300 fatalities a year Steve  |
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Post by earthman on Sept 29, 2020 20:23:16 GMT 1
‘Since Covid we’ve lost the balance of how we manage risk’
Personally I think that Iain Duncan Smith makes some good points here,....I too would like to know the answer to the question above.
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Post by earthman on Sept 29, 2020 20:28:09 GMT 1
Veg, can you confirm if what this guy says is true? Any info on what the security reasons actually are??
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Post by earthman on Sept 29, 2020 21:20:26 GMT 1
I have yet to see or hear anything that persuades me that these tin foil hat wearing nutters are anything other than that, anti establishment conspiracy nutters. They are also now aligning themselves to Qanon with all their right wing conspiracy theories. Sorry but why? How do you view doctors and scientists who question or say anything different to what you only hear on the TV? I don't consider these people to be 'tin foil hat wearing nutters',.....they actually have a lot to loose, could be struck off the medical board for speaking out for example. Why don't the BBC have these professional people on? |
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Post by tony2stroke on Sept 30, 2020 12:59:12 GMT 1
My dad passed last year (not of Covid) is do anything to have a day with him yes he had underlying health issues but if some selfish t**t compromised that because of their ‘rights’ honestly I’d bury them, my son when he was born was in intensive care for 2 months wasn’t a thing I’d have done to make him ok, if some selfish prick wrote him off because his life wasn’t worth them wearing a mask I’d f**king bury them. For the sake of someone you may not know whose life may be adversely effected by your f**king selfishness wear a f**king mask . Not very fitting rhetoric from a man of the law, though we all know he likes mouthing off and overriding anyone else's opinion, always has to resort to foul language. |
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Post by midlifecrisisrd on Sept 30, 2020 13:17:30 GMT 1
My dad passed last year (not of Covid) is do anything to have a day with him yes he had underlying health issues but if some selfish t**t compromised that because of their ‘rights’ honestly I’d bury them, my son when he was born was in intensive care for 2 months wasn’t a thing I’d have done to make him ok, if some selfish prick wrote him off because his life wasn’t worth them wearing a mask I’d f**king bury them. For the sake of someone you may not know whose life may be adversely effected by your f**king selfishness wear a f**king mask . Not very fitting rhetoric from a man of the law, though we all know he likes mouthing off and overriding anyone else's opinion, always has to resort to foul language. So you are in the camp supporting not wearing a mask? Steve |
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