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Post by earthman on Aug 17, 2020 21:40:57 GMT 1
suppose from my point of view I am using them alot, so tend to buy what will provide years of service, I have allsorts of sizes including NPT which is used alot for water pipe threads (temp senders etc), especially if American made I've tried cheap sets and to be fair they have lasted a year or two, but do have an habit of breaking, especially is used in the lathe, but then I do use a lot of lathe taps and they need to be good quality, hence why I avoid carbon steel, they don't hack it All valid points you make there, I use my carbon steel ones on my little lathe but never under power funny enough, I just use it to align then turn by hand basically, all short/small stuff really, anything longer then I'll mess about with swapping cogs on the machine and use a cutting bit/the machine to make a thread. Who wouldn't want a garage full of top notch tools at the end of the day? It just comes down to depth of pocket,....if you are using them to run a business then you are passing on some of that cost to the customer, sadly that aspect doesn't apply to us hobbyist/DIY types, hence why we have to weigh up how much we can afford to spend on X tool/product at the end of the day otherwise our garage would be a bit sparse on tools period.
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Post by muttsnuts on Aug 18, 2020 13:43:53 GMT 1
lol, I knew I was missing a trick, I don't pass the cost onto customers , I had most of these tools long before I started fixing stuff for other people, I just tend to buy the best i can afford, it generally hasn't let me down taking that approach, but everyone has a different budget and needs, so its good that there is variaty, but it is tempered with caution on some of the cheaper stuff as they can really mess a job up if they snap in it, you ever tried getting a broken tap out of a threaded hole without damaging the part - nightmare !
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Post by earthman on Aug 18, 2020 14:00:53 GMT 1
Most businesses have to factor in cost of equipment, otherwise how do you survive/make it work in the long term?
I've been looking at a diagnostic kit that can do everything to my modern bike, it costs 2 grand, a price that I just can't afford/justify for myself. Now if I were running a business/offering a service then maybe I could.
That's just one example of DIY mechanic vs business repair shop and tools/costs.
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Post by muttsnuts on Aug 18, 2020 14:25:49 GMT 1
Most businesses have to factor in cost of equipment, otherwise how do you survive/make it work in the long term? I've been looking at a diagnostic kit that can do everything to my modern bike, it costs 2 grand, a price that I just can't afford/justify for myself. Now if I were running a business/offering a service then maybe I could. That's just one example of DIY mechanic vs business repair shop and tools/costs. very true, I reckon I've over £100k in tools and equipment, the dyno itself is a fortune, then the lathe, milling m/c, tig welder, mig welder, folders, rollers, grinders, pillar drills, cutting saws, all the tooling for the machines, hand tools, specialist equipment and tools etc, the list goes on, I'd hate to have to try and buy it again !
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Post by flames on Aug 18, 2020 17:21:49 GMT 1
Wouldn't be too bad.....you just need a rather large supply of curly wurlys nowadays it seems.😁
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Post by st66 on Aug 18, 2020 18:09:37 GMT 1
Sounds like mutts could do with an apprentice eh lol bless
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Post by earthman on Aug 18, 2020 21:43:37 GMT 1
Most businesses have to factor in cost of equipment, otherwise how do you survive/make it work in the long term? I've been looking at a diagnostic kit that can do everything to my modern bike, it costs 2 grand, a price that I just can't afford/justify for myself. Now if I were running a business/offering a service then maybe I could. That's just one example of DIY mechanic vs business repair shop and tools/costs. very true, I reckon I've over £100k in tools and equipment, the dyno itself is a fortune, then the lathe, milling m/c, tig welder, mig welder, folders, rollers, grinders, pillar drills, cutting saws, all the tooling for the machines, hand tools, specialist equipment and tools etc, the list goes on, I'd hate to have to try and buy it again ! Aye, I don't know how anyone can afford to start up in the first place, I got talking to a guy yesterday, in his twenties, lost his job at a dealership at the start of this covid situation, he's set up on his own, £400 rent per month on a tiny unit in a pretty run down industrial estate, the space is about double garage size, one ramp, tyre changing machine, hydrualic press, air compressor, diagnostic machine,....all the basic stuff but it all adds up. What with the cost of monthly indemnity insurance, electric, phone bill etc also, how on earth does anyone make it work from the start, without any build up of a customer base already?
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Post by muttsnuts on Aug 18, 2020 21:48:44 GMT 1
yep, its a nightmare, I am hoping once I decide to give it all up to find a local bike garage (one man band) that has a decent size workshop but no dyno etc that could use my equipment in exchange for me having my work bench and being able to use my dyno once in a while, the deal being my equipment is there for them to use (I'll train them up as necessary), but I don't I pay any rent etc, otherwise I'll still need a big workshop for all my gear as when the wife and I down size, I'll lose my current workshop of course and the chances of finding another place with a similar setup would be impossible with a smaller house I reckon
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Post by flames on Aug 18, 2020 22:13:03 GMT 1
yep, its a nightmare, I am hoping once I decide to give it all up to find a local bike garage (one man band) that has a decent size workshop but no dyno etc that could use my equipment in exchange for me having my work bench and being able to use my dyno once in a while, the deal being my equipment is there for them to use (I'll train them up as necessary), but I don't I pay any rent etc, otherwise I'll still need a big workshop for all my gear as when the wife and I down size, I'll lose my current workshop of course and the chances of finding another place with a similar setup would be impossible with a smaller house I reckon My plan when the Mrs decides we need to downsize is to turn rooms into indoor mini workshops. That way, she gets smaller house I get more workshop space.😁
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