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Post by earthman on Aug 14, 2020 22:40:41 GMT 1
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Post by donkeychomp on Aug 14, 2020 22:46:33 GMT 1
No but very expensive. I'd just use a garage. How many tyres to you need to change every year lets say? If it's in the 100's...maybe invest in some kit.
Alex
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Post by reedpete on Aug 14, 2020 23:03:53 GMT 1
First you need to buy a tire, then do all that And then you still need to balance it... Life’s to short to be doing all that !
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Post by earthman on Aug 14, 2020 23:15:30 GMT 1
The other issue I have is TPMS, when the batteries go flat Triumph expect you to just buy new sensors at more than £100 each and then charge you for diagnostic work to get them to communicate with the bikes computer, other owners have cracked open these units and have just soldered in a new button cell battery, this takes time, hence why I need to remove tyres myself. Balancing them isn't such a problem, that can be done without a fancy machine with digital display etc.
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Post by flames on Aug 15, 2020 0:19:23 GMT 1
Great idea, but in reality a £100 machine probably won't cut it.my mate had a different version a couple of years ago and he thought it was great. He did a couple of bike tyres and was happy. He did a bike tyre for me and the handle bent, a bracket broke when he did a car tyre. If it was something you use all the time, it would be worth a punt. For something you will realistically use less than once a year, with balancing etc an extra, I wouldn't bother.
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Post by JonW on Aug 15, 2020 0:28:47 GMT 1
Another pro job i reckon. I did my own for years, even used the car to drive over tyres to break beads or used the sill and a long bar. Used long cable ties to help get tyres one etc etc etc. Its all a massive struggle and now i just pay to have it done. I do balance my own, the tool was cheap enough and you could just do it with an old axle and a vice if you were stuck. Weights are cheap to buy etc.
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Post by earthman on Aug 15, 2020 8:11:49 GMT 1
I know that I'm not paying close to £400 every time just for the sensors & programming. Buying/owning some forms of tyre removal equipment is the way to go I feel.
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Post by flames on Aug 15, 2020 9:35:04 GMT 1
I agree would be handy, and at least you know you will be careful with paint / rims. Hopefully if you go for something like in your links they will be up to the job.
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Post by earthman on Aug 15, 2020 10:16:05 GMT 1
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Post by LC_BOTT on Aug 15, 2020 12:44:08 GMT 1
Thats the one I have (or a close replica) It's great for taking tyres off, but I find it just as easy to put them on, on the ground. I doubt it will do a car tyre, but I have used it to break the bead on a few car tyres to replace leaky/split valves. I also ended up buying a longer bar to aid removal, then don't forget you have to pay for tyre disposal on top (still offsets the cost of fitting though, at £4 for me)
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Post by JonW on Aug 15, 2020 13:52:43 GMT 1
I know that I'm not paying close to £400 every time just for the sensors & programming. Buying/owning some forms of tyre removal equipment is the way to go I feel. you could have them removed by a pro, redo the batts (at home or in the car park) and then have the tyres put back on?
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Post by Tobyjugs on Aug 15, 2020 15:06:50 GMT 1
If you have got the money buy it and savour the satisfaction of changing your own tyres. Its great not having to rely on other people
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Post by earthman on Aug 15, 2020 15:41:10 GMT 1
I know that I'm not paying close to £400 every time just for the sensors & programming. Buying/owning some forms of tyre removal equipment is the way to go I feel. you could have them removed by a pro, redo the batts (at home or in the car park) and then have the tyres put back on? It will be my first time at doing it, I doubt many pros would be willing to hang around for hours or want to come out again, let alone the aspect of charging me twice no doubt.
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Post by earthman on Aug 15, 2020 15:44:09 GMT 1
If you have got the money buy it and savour the satisfaction of changing your own tyres. Its great not having to rely on other people Exactly Toby, you and I are on the same page, I hate having to rely on others to do anything.
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Post by earthman on Aug 15, 2020 20:32:53 GMT 1
Thats the one I have (or a close replica) It's great for taking tyres off, but I find it just as easy to put them on, on the ground. I doubt it will do a car tyre, but I have used it to break the bead on a few car tyres to replace leaky/split valves. I also ended up buying a longer bar to aid removal, then don't forget you have to pay for tyre disposal on top (still offsets the cost of fitting though, at £4 for me) Have you used it on alloy wheels at all? I've just noticed that the Machine Mart states that it's only suitable for steel wheels? Is that just down to the shape of the 3 hooks supplied I wonder??
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Post by JonW on Aug 16, 2020 3:23:11 GMT 1
you could have them removed by a pro, redo the batts (at home or in the car park) and then have the tyres put back on? It will be my first time at doing it, I doubt many pros would be willing to hang around for hours or want to come out again, let alone the aspect of charging me twice no doubt. I meant take the wheels off and drive to the tyre place. Do a deal to remove and refit the same tyres, this is not a new thing for them. Racers do it often etc
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Post by LC_BOTT on Aug 16, 2020 8:11:57 GMT 1
Have you used it on alloy wheels at all? I've just noticed that the Machine Mart states that it's only suitable for steel wheels? Is that just down to the shape of the 3 hooks supplied I wonder?? [/quote] Yes, alloy wheels are all I have, was going to say the hooks are quite big and become a slight problem on smaller/skinny wheels, but to fit a tyre you need the bead pushed into the centre to aid fitting anyway. Got mine S/H so well and truly paid for itself by now. Not sure I'd be able to do car tyres on it, the sidewalls seem much stronger to me.
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Post by earthman on Aug 16, 2020 9:03:01 GMT 1
It will be my first time at doing it, I doubt many pros would be willing to hang around for hours or want to come out again, let alone the aspect of charging me twice no doubt. I meant take the wheels off and drive to the tyre place. Do a deal to remove and refit the same tyres, this is not a new thing for them. Racers do it often etc Yeah I know but in the case of me having to delve into those pressure sensors, working out how to fit new batteries etc, I really can't say what time/day I'd be back. Another thing I've just found out, get a puncture in a new tyre, places around here are telling me that they won't repair it with those mushroom shaped plugs any more, they will only fit a new tyre. When did this happen? For years those plugs that were fitted/bonded to the inside of a tyre had been deemed safe to use, I have run around for years on a couple myself with no issues. If you can still buy these plugs and the glue etc then I'd look into fitting one myself.
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Post by earthman on Aug 16, 2020 9:06:28 GMT 1
Have you used it on alloy wheels at all? I've just noticed that the Machine Mart states that it's only suitable for steel wheels? Is that just down to the shape of the 3 hooks supplied I wonder?? Yes, alloy wheels are all I have, was going to say the hooks are quite big and become a slight problem on smaller/skinny wheels, but to fit a tyre you need the bead pushed into the centre to aid fitting anyway. Got mine S/H so well and truly paid for itself by now. Not sure I'd be able to do car tyres on it, the sidewalls seem much stronger to me.[/quote] Thanks for your thoughts. I've just been looking at this review of the sealey motorcycle one, looks like the expensive bar designed for alloy wheels may not be worth buying. www.offbeatbikesmagazine.co.uk/resources/magazine-articles/sealey-tyre-chang
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Post by Yogi on Aug 16, 2020 9:17:29 GMT 1
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Post by JonW on Aug 16, 2020 13:54:29 GMT 1
Ive used one of them, helps to have a helper I found.
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