Hi, my LC / 31K YPVS hybrid will no longer start, I have previously had it running fine. having done load of checks I believe the “4CE-00” CDI unit has failed. Im considering a Ignitech or Zeeltronic, is there any preference? Norbo lists the Zeeltronic for £180 & Ignitech for £165. Muttsnuts list the Ignitech for £180. Do these all come with a basic pre installed map? Thanks in advance
You can just fit a 1ua cdi. Just will have the blue wire spare so no stand cut out switch
Also before you condemn your old cdi try connecting the blue cdi wire to earth to prove the circuit is ok
If your neutral switch/side stand switch is faulty it won't let it start
Also check low speed winding and pick up resistance as if knackered they will stop it too
Thanks for your comments, So either Zeeltronic from Norbo or Ignitech from Muttsnuts then.
You say that you don’t think the 4CE CDI’s tend to fail? from reading this post rdlccrazy.proboards.com/thread/7092/ypvs-cdi-convershons I have checked all the outputs of the generator & CDI & the only thing I can find wrong is the CDI output voltage to the coil is about 10 to 20% of what it should be.
I’d happily fit a 1UA CDI if I could find one!
I have the blue wire connection to earth as I don’t have any of the side stand cutout system. Without the wire connected to earth I have no output to the coil at all!
You may also need a programming lead if you want to check or change any settings yourself. The Ignitech ones are a lot cheaper as just a USB-Serial cable you plug in your laptop, whereas the Zeel ones are a custom lead or handheld programmer.
Last Edit: Aug 10, 2020 10:10:43 GMT 1 by 4l04ever
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Im in the same position & have to decide between the two units i have No CDI Or Powervalve controller to start with tho so im leaning towards the Zeeltronic PCD1-10VT iv also been told there FAR Easier to install than the other unit & when you have basic electricial knowledge Thats a big bonus
Thanks for the info Steve Good to know there basically the same to fit I was told the Zeel unit didn’t matter what stator you had ( F2 or 31K ) Also you didn’t need the CDi or power valve controller as the zeel had both built in Is that the case for the Iggy Cheers
I was in a similar position a couple of months ago, i went for the Ignitech. i got it off DaveW (mutts nuts) since im putting a set of his pipes on the bike, it made sense to get a unit that Dave has downloaded the correct map for the pipes etc.....
Not wired it in yet as the bike is still being built up but looking at the 31k wiring instructions Dave supplied, it looks straight forward enough........