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Post by 4l04ever on Aug 5, 2020 0:04:42 GMT 1
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Post by tacky1 on Aug 5, 2020 0:12:18 GMT 1
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Post by shaunthe2nd on Aug 5, 2020 0:25:42 GMT 1
Seller is in Hull, which isn't too far from me but not heard of him. I wonder if they have been made in Hull. Maybe a mate of AJ's.
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Post by veg on Aug 5, 2020 2:23:17 GMT 1
Reverse engineered?
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Post by reedpete on Aug 5, 2020 3:24:38 GMT 1
You can build pipes to function or to be aesthetically pleasing or both....those are neither !
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Post by nij on Aug 5, 2020 8:07:22 GMT 1
Not pretty but worth a go at that price?
How would they run?
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Post by beardy on Aug 5, 2020 8:10:51 GMT 1
That looks like my welding
Functional
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Post by st66 on Aug 5, 2020 10:38:37 GMT 1
Well I looked and wished I hadn't,,,, it will cost me a fortune in therapy ffs,,, try again mate
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Post by tsa on Aug 5, 2020 17:58:12 GMT 1
Not pretty but worth a go at that price? How would they run? Id say not very well looking at the pinching in the header, so probably not much better than std power. |
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Post by jon on Aug 5, 2020 18:03:20 GMT 1
I’d be more worrried about the function than performance and looks.
Looking at the end can, those exit pipes look far too small a diameter. Holed pistons a likely outcome.
Jon
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Post by midlifecrisisrd on Aug 5, 2020 20:30:09 GMT 1
The cans look like the cheap Chinese ones you used to get on EBay
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Post by fabiostar on Aug 5, 2020 20:46:54 GMT 1
a tad industrial shall we say
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Post by 29davyt on Aug 5, 2020 20:55:29 GMT 1
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Post by st66 on Aug 5, 2020 22:22:04 GMT 1
I think the guys knocked em up in his kitchen with his Mrs welding together wile he holds it with bbq tongs with no weld mask,, close your eyes job,, made up of baked bean tins and bits of side of the old wahsa and fridge from the back garden which is nearly overrun by the jungle of a lawn with 6.2 kids saying oh look at the bony blue light as the mother with no gloves on welds it with eyes closed with a welding arc rod taped to a live wire connected via the TV extension plugged into the live bit of the wall socket,, so frankly that all being said its a feckn cracking job,, fast go pipes from chav weld look close and itle have indiset stamped on em,,, mint,,,👍👍so you have to give him credit for wanting £330 for his Mrs burnt retnas
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Post by tacky1 on Aug 6, 2020 0:45:28 GMT 1
Id be more worried about the pigeon shit you cant see, All that crap on the inside... Lurvley......
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Post by tacky1 on Aug 6, 2020 0:45:40 GMT 1
Id be more worried about the pigeon shit you cant see, All that crap on the inside... Lurvley......
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Post by icarus001 on Aug 6, 2020 7:05:39 GMT 1
Welding (as you all know) is a genuine craft and it doesn't come easily, my welds are worse than that blokes - which is why I pay someone else to do it.
It's like plastering, it looks easy when a craftsman does it, but I can't do plastering either unless you want it to look like a contour map.
I served a proper apprenticeship and I'm protective of it, which is why I hate those "become an electrician/plumber in 6 weeks" courses, it devalues the skills a proper tradesman has.
That bloke probably thinks he's a proper welder.
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Post by nobby62 on Aug 6, 2020 9:48:12 GMT 1
They’re cheap ok, but they look cheap, why bother. If you can raise £380 just wait another 6 months and save the rest up and buy a decent set from one of the recognised producers on here....don’t waste 60% of the value of a decent set.
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Post by jon on Aug 6, 2020 17:43:18 GMT 1
I’m not defending these pipes in any way, but apart from the the end cans not seeming big enough diameter, they could be functional.
I also totally agree with the above comment BUT I think that’s because we all covert these machines and want the best. Thankfully that is available.
I think the look of the welds is down to the type of welding, I bet these are MIG as opposed to the regularly seen TIG? They look like perfectly functional MIG welds to me? Maybe seen on garden furniture etc where the beauty and skill of the welds would be lost? Would you pay £100 for a garden chair as opposed to £50 because the welds ‘looked’ better even though they were both functional?
If you want the best then you have to pay, but there is no denying these aren’t expensive.
So it’s really down to a choice as I see it?
Jon
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Post by beardy on Aug 6, 2020 18:45:45 GMT 1
I’m no expert but that looks like mig welding.
My wig welding isn’t pretty but I’ve welded bits together then tried to separate them with a big hammer and failed.
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Post by jon on Aug 6, 2020 19:09:02 GMT 1
I’m no expert but that looks like mig welding. My wig welding isn’t pretty but I’ve welded bits together then tried to separate them with a big hammer and failed. MIG welding stands for Metal Inert Gas. TIG welding stands for Tungsten (after the electrode) Inert Gas. Never heard of WIG welding but if it involves melting human hairs I’m surprised it has any strength at all?  Jon |
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Post by iwantalc on Aug 6, 2020 19:10:00 GMT 1
what a blinding bit of welding they are quality cant knock em .. |
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Post by beardy on Aug 6, 2020 19:17:41 GMT 1
😂 predictive text and a bottle of 8% cider.
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Post by veg on Aug 6, 2020 19:23:31 GMT 1
Well he/she can weld a damn site better than me. They are cheap yes for a reason but if you’re on a budget and you want new ?
Obviously I won’t be buying a set but just trying to put it into perspective.
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Post by reedpete on Aug 6, 2020 19:50:37 GMT 1
Don’t think it’s the strength of the welding that’s the issue...this is a resonant cavity...instrument if you will...last thing you want is internal surface anomalies.
Secondly ...expanding an earlier comment...the headers. You can see where they have been formed by a simple ‘plumbers’ stretch bender. You can see how the cross sectional area is actually reduced as it’s pulled round the bend. A decent constant section bend is formed on a bender with an internal mandrel . So they are not even constant diameter let alone a gentle divergent section although that needs to be pressed or hydro formed.
However , those in glass houses should throw stones....they’ve had a go. The market will be the ultimately determine commercial success or failure.
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Post by st66 on Aug 6, 2020 19:56:29 GMT 1
Well,,, big sigh,, these pipes are I think basically home made, fair play to the guy I guess,,, the description says high grade steel,, not stainless,, they will rust like feck within a month,, secondly,, they are migged together not tig,, and the guys skill in welding is plain to see,,
I can both tig and mig weld and gas weld and stick weld like a mutha,, did three years of night school to get good at it,, I don't however do it for a living but I could,,, I built rally cars at one time so it helped a tad,,
.. I won't get into welding here but I think the guy is reaching, but some poor unwise guy will no doubt buy them £380,, yeah cheap and they are,, thrown together, with no understanding of exhausts the pipe into the cans are so restrictive I'm surprised it runs I would question the welds without seeing them it could leak like a sive , he's had a go at dressing the welds but they are butt welds edge to edge so brittle I'd guess,,,.. I for one would run a mile and if someone I knew had built these I'd slap the fecker,, sorry but nahhh
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Post by midlifecrisisrd on Aug 6, 2020 20:01:50 GMT 1
They ain't that cheap considering they have a pair of £50 Chinese cans on them
If you can get a pair of steel pipes from mutts for £400 would you not be better spending a little bit extra on decent pipes then fit cheapo cans
Steve
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Post by veg on Aug 6, 2020 20:28:44 GMT 1
Mutts pipes are £650 plus? Aren’t they though Steve? I get what you’re all saying I wouldn’t buy a set and I’m having a set of Dave’s pipes to replace the tz350 ones. I just think fair play to him making them however as said the market will dictate whether they work out or not. I am not in any position to judge his welding as I can’t weld so passing judgement feels a bit wrong. Those with more skill or insight are far better placed to as you all have. I’ll shut up now. 😁
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Post by beardy on Aug 6, 2020 21:05:36 GMT 1
Mutts start at £400 and go up to £600?
I paid £540 with silencers.
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Post by midlifecrisisrd on Aug 6, 2020 21:13:50 GMT 1
Mutts pipes are £650 plus? Aren’t they though Steve? I get what you’re all saying I wouldn’t buy a set and I’m having a set of Dave’s pipes to replace the tz350 ones. I just think fair play to him making them however as said the market will dictate whether they work out or not. I am not in any position to judge his welding as I can’t weld so passing judgement feels a bit wrong. Those with more skill or insight are far better placed to as you all have. I’ll shut up now. 😁 As beardy said steel with no cans start around £400 £100 extra for stainless And yes cans will start around £150 for quality ones Steve |
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