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Post by rigga on Apr 6, 2020 11:34:21 GMT 1
I know there are some dog owners on here, so I thought I'd post about the current situation with mine. Now bear in mind I'm almost 55, never had a dog until a couple of years ago, always pestered by the wife, but never really understood the appeal, and I knew if I relented I'd be the one to look after him due to my shift pattern, walks etc. So 3 and a half years ago I relented, and agreed to have one, friends had a miniature Schnauzer that I really liked, so that's the breed we chose, and a not very common white puppy came to live with us. Casper (friendly ghost) has been an amazing addition to the family, and now i do fully understand the way people feel about their pets, follows me everywhere and is totally devoted to me, and I him, and yes i do love all the long walks we have, trips to the countryside, and beach holidays in Cornwall. Unfortunately this last week has been horrendous, he started having sloppy poo, which quickly turned into blood jetting out of him, and throwing up everywhere, due to the current covid situation, vets are running reduced services, and initially only offered a phone consultation 3 hours after this had happened. Now I'm no vet, but if I started to fire blood out of my arse, I'd be pretty sure there was something drastically wrong with me, so I couldn't wait for the phone call, and managed to find another vet who would see him quicker. Rushed him over and handed him over at the door and he's been there ever since, tests do not reveal the exact cause, though have ruled out pancreatic issues which the breed suffer from and can be fatal, he's not eating much, and might be having a tube inserted into his stomach today to try to get some nutrition into him, bleeding has thankfully stopped, but still none the wiser, scans have revealed no blockages, its all a bit of a mystery, and I'm sitting here without my mate and feeling pretty useless to be honest. Went out this morning as usual for my walk, habit I guess and very strange without him, can't visit him and i know he's missing us and in a strange place with strange people won't be helping his recovery, they say that if the tube insertion works OK, he may be allowed home tomorrow which may help him. Been a shit few years, with one thing and another, i know there are worse situations people are facing out there, but thought I'd share Look after your loved ones, two legged or more.
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Post by veg on Apr 6, 2020 11:52:30 GMT 1
Rigga Heart goes out to you got loads of animals including my 4 dogs and they are very much a part of the family when one dies we always get another but they are never a replacement. One of my spaniels had similar recently and it was colitis basically she had nicked a plate full of human food which leads to bleeding of the gut. And bloody poo, not all dogs get it she is just more sensitive to it and has to have a very controlled diet. Hope the little ones back with you soon. Take it easy 👍
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Post by steve h on Apr 6, 2020 11:53:15 GMT 1
Totally understand your predicament rigga... He's family.
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Post by tony2stroke on Apr 6, 2020 11:59:08 GMT 1
I know there are some dog owners on here, so I thought I'd post about the current situation with mine. Now bear in mind I'm almost 55, never had a dog until a couple of years ago, always pestered by the wife, but never really understood the appeal, and I knew if I relented I'd be the one to look after him due to my shift pattern, walks etc. So 3 and a half years ago I relented, and agreed to have one, friends had a miniature Schnauzer that I really liked, so that's the breed we chose, and a not very common white puppy came to live with us. Casper (friendly ghost) has been an amazing addition to the family, and now i do fully understand the way people feel about their pets, follows me everywhere and is totally devoted to me, and I him, and yes i do love all the long walks we have, trips to the countryside, and beach holidays in Cornwall. Unfortunately this last week has been horrendous, he started having sloppy poo, which quickly turned into blood jetting out of him, and throwing up everywhere, due to the current covid situation, vets are running reduced services, and initially only offered a phone consultation 3 hours after this had happened. Now I'm no vet, but if I started to fire blood out of my arse, I'd be pretty sure there was something drastically wrong with me, so I couldn't wait for the phone call, and managed to find another vet who would see him quicker. Rushed him over and handed him over at the door and he's been there ever since, tests do not reveal the exact cause, though have ruled out pancreatic issues which the breed suffer from and can be fatal, he's not eating much, and might be having a tube inserted into his stomach today to try to get some nutrition into him, bleeding has thankfully stopped, but still none the wiser, scans have revealed no blockages, its all a bit of a mystery, and I'm sitting here without my mate and feeling pretty useless to be honest. Went out this morning as usual for my walk, habit I guess and very strange without him, can't visit him and i know he's missing us and in a strange place with strange people won't be helping his recovery, they say that if the tube insertion works OK, he may be allowed home tomorrow which may help him. Been a shit few years, with one thing and another, i know there are worse situations people are facing out there, but thought I'd share Look after your loved ones, two legged or more. My hart goes out to you mate, I know the love of a dog and the feelings your going through as I am sure many on here do, sometimes it not as bad as it seams, there are lots of reasons for these sorts of complaints, they look for the worst first just in case it is something bad, I would take solace in the fact nothing sinister has been found, keep your chin up, I hope Casper makes a full fast recovery, all the best. Tony
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Post by 4l04ever on Apr 6, 2020 16:03:48 GMT 1
I only have cats, but they soon become part of your family. Had to take one of mine to vets a few months ago as was not eating and going down hill fast. Cats can only last a few days with no food or water, so was quite ill. Luckily it turned out to be bad tooth issue, so had pain relief and then had teeth sorted the following week and now thankfully back to normal.
Hope your hound gets better soon and returns home.
"Yourvets" are very good and cheap for check and also available outside of normal hours at standard rates. They only charged £15 for initial consultation and that was available 7 days a week and normally until late in the evenings in the week. I think their hours are reduced now and the initial fee has gone up to £25, but still not too bad.
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Post by stusco on Apr 6, 2020 17:10:20 GMT 1
My neighbours have a miniature schnauzer he's had to be operated on twice now as the breed likes to swallow pebbles,I don’t know what the symptoms are but i guess the vets will know this ,fingers crossed for him
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Post by neil on Apr 6, 2020 18:43:35 GMT 1
Totally understand the worry. Hope all turns out OK. Neil
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Post by dusty350 on Apr 6, 2020 20:00:31 GMT 1
Hi Rigga Sorry to hear Casper is unwell My Springer, Indie, was crapping blood and quite unwell back in January. Took her to the vet, who guessed she had probably eaten "something" in the park. Sure enough, after a couple of days she was good again, so fingers crossed it's nothing more than that. We lost our older Springer, Millie, just before Xmas. She was 15 and a half so although sad, she had enjoyed a wonderful life. They really are an equal member of the family in my book. Hope he is back with you soon, fighting fit and ready to go ! Regards Dusty
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Post by rigga on Apr 6, 2020 21:44:54 GMT 1
Cheers guys, they are family,and I'm really upset I can't help him in any way, even comfort him, totally no contact, only had a couple of pictures of him. He's had more tests today,and scans, but nothing flagged up aside from low potassium and electrolyte levels, which are being addressed. Had a tube fitted into his stomach to aid feeding, as he's not eating much, stopped passing blood, and mainly not regurgitating his food, and hopefully may be home soon to aid his recovery, a familiar place and with us might help him, he's certainly looking sorry for himself currently, and can't blame him.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 6, 2020 23:56:13 GMT 1
Dogs really become a part of the family, and it's tough when they're sick. I don't know if it's relevant, but according to my vet bones cause most of the problems he has with dogs in his surgery. Not just cooked ones, but bones generally. Anything from getting stuck in the throat and blockages in the intestines, to internal damage caused by sharp edges as the pass through. All the best with it, and hopefully he has a speedy recovery.
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Post by rigga on Apr 7, 2020 0:59:54 GMT 1
No bones, he has raw food, but pre prepared frozen stuff
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Post by JonW on Apr 7, 2020 1:24:05 GMT 1
Sorry to hear this, hope he gets better soon.
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Post by bigkenx on Apr 7, 2020 5:34:35 GMT 1
Hope everything ends up ok
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Post by Denzil on Apr 7, 2020 7:46:51 GMT 1
Best wishes to the little one Rigga. Totally understand how you feel. Dogs are better than people..... sometimes. We had the same sort of problem, turned out the food she has had changed its recipe causing the above. A week of chicken and boiled rice and back to normal than changed the food.
I appreciate its what you do for yours, but why do you give him raw food.. due to the bugs in it is this the best. I would certainly cook or buy cooked food.
He is a beautiful boy and your post says everything about how you feel for him. Keep us posted about him. I am sure everybody is routing for him.
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Post by veg on Apr 7, 2020 8:30:04 GMT 1
‘Raw’ became a thing a while back I put ours into it, our vet after a few months recommended against it as it was not balanced enough as dogs have been domesticated so far they need a more balanced diet, whereas our cats aren’t . My mastiff was fine on it but my spaniels less so. I now give them a non cereal non rice based kibble all are fit and healthy.
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Post by rigga on Apr 7, 2020 12:57:06 GMT 1
To clear something up, "raw " is the term used, and some who do fully raw do indeed just give that, chicken feet and the like. What Casper has is a pre prepared mix of meat, veg, oils and such to give a balanced diet, comes in sausage form which we just defrost and cut up as needed, been on it for about 3 years and doing really well. Reason as to why, when he Was a puppy he just didn't take to kibble, even tried something called gentle, which is a freeze dried variety which lots rave about, and no good, we took him to a dog nutritionist, and raw was suggested in the form we give him, straight away feeding really well, and absolutely no issues what's so ever, small firm parcels from his rear end, no farts at all, no anal gland issues due to the hard poo, really was a revelation. As to what's caused this issue, the vets have kind of admitted they are stumped, all scans and tests they have done have revealed nothing, so on their recommendation, we are picking him up early in the morning, and taking to a specialist vet, who have better scanning and imaging equipment, hopefully they can get to the route cause of his problems. He's very special to us, and we need to get him better, prefer his company to almost anyone's, he's not got a bad bone in him, just need him well again and home.
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Post by veg on Apr 7, 2020 13:10:32 GMT 1
It’s weird how attached we become to animals love all of mine. Re raw mine were on literally just that raw frozen meat that you defrosted that’s why we moved mine to kibble but sounds like yours is far more balanced . Is he going to Solihull? I know there is an amazing vets there that basically rebuilt the spine of our old spaniel. Best of luck buddy as you can see were a sentimental old bunch of gits on here. 👍
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Post by rigga on Apr 7, 2020 14:07:09 GMT 1
Tim, he is indeed off to Willow in solihull, only done a quick search, but they appear to have a very good reputation. Yes it seems we are all quivering wrecks when our pets become ill, as I previously stated, a few years back I would have just fobbed it off, and told someone its only a pet, but as an owner now, I too have fallen for them big time, and to be honest I just can't see me being without him, although I realise age waits for no one, at under 4, I don't want him to go just yet. Also just to add, I've had a pretty shit couple of years, I know again in the great scheme of things my issues are nothing, but I had 5 months off work last year, suffering with depression, stress and anxiety, due to relationship issues with my son, drug use, violence etc, who no longer lives with us, Casper got me through all that, long, and I mean long walks, taking care of him all helped, so I am rather attached to him.
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Post by steve h on Apr 7, 2020 14:10:31 GMT 1
‘Raw’ became a thing a while back I put ours into it, our vet after a few months recommended against it as it was not balanced enough as dogs have been domesticated so far they need a more balanced diet, whereas our cats aren’t . My mastiff was fine on it but my spaniels less so. I now give them a non cereal non rice based kibble all are fit and healthy. I hope that when the vet recommended against it..... they did not try in any way to put you on something very expensive that they stock in their practice.
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Post by sbscnor on Apr 7, 2020 15:06:07 GMT 1
Rigga feel for you our cat has two teeth out just before Covid 19 kicked off then had complications post op. Vets currently only doing phone consultations anyway only just got her sorted in the last few days. Hope Casper gets sorted soon looks like he will needs some TLC which if your like me he will get by the bucket.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 7, 2020 16:17:48 GMT 1
Hi Rigga
We feel for you
Hopefully I'm not speaking out of turn and I'm not telling your vet what to do, I suspect it could be Canine Parvovirus or Canine Corona Virus given the symptoms you have described, has your vet ruled that out? A simple anal swab will tell them the result very quickly within the hour essentially
Saw plenty of Parvo whilst working at a vets in the 80's in the hope to become one, CCV is new only discovered in 2005
Parvo and CCV both attack the stomach and intestinal lining of dogs causing vomiting and bloody diarrhoea, hence why I asked the question, there are other cause, however you are coming into spring and that is one of the prime times for parvo
Your dog CAN survive this, you have done the right thing and you did it quickly, he is in the best hands he can be in
Unfortunately vets can contract corona type viruses off pets, cross over viruses are becoming more common in the modern age, when once a virus was confined to an animal some can now cross to humans, hence vets are now very cautious and rightly so
SARS, H1N1 and MERS are all Corona type viruses and originated from some sort of animal and are now jumping species
HTH
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Post by veg on Apr 7, 2020 16:30:44 GMT 1
‘Raw’ became a thing a while back I put ours into it, our vet after a few months recommended against it as it was not balanced enough as dogs have been domesticated so far they need a more balanced diet, whereas our cats aren’t . My mastiff was fine on it but my spaniels less so. I now give them a non cereal non rice based kibble all are fit and healthy. I hope that when the vet recommended against it..... they did not try in any way to put you on something very expensive that they stock in their practice. No he didn’t it was actually our equine vet that spoke to us after a little scare the general practice vet wasn’t committing one way or the other.
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Post by donkeychomp on Apr 7, 2020 22:02:41 GMT 1
I wish the little pup a very speedy recovery. Fingers crossed for you.
Alex
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Post by rigga on Apr 7, 2020 23:52:39 GMT 1
Asked tonight when they called about Parvo and Corona testing, they havnt as hrs been vaccinated, will mention to the specialist when we drop him off in the morning just in case.
Thanks for all the kind words guys, know none of you personally , but it means a lot. Hopefully some good news to report going forward.
Correction I have met Rob 4l04ever
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Post by Denzil on Apr 8, 2020 7:44:13 GMT 1
Best of luck to the little dog. Agreed on the love of animals can get you through almost anything. Hope you get it sorted and he is back sitting on your lap. Thanks for keeping us updated on him.
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Post by midlifecrisisrd on Apr 10, 2020 20:17:11 GMT 1
I've never been a pet person but can understand people get really attached
Hope the little un pulls through
Steve
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Post by rigga on Apr 10, 2020 21:16:40 GMT 1
He's been at the specialist since wed morning, we were told when picking him up, that he had perked up a bit, and was keeping some food down, but still bringing some up at different times of the day. Was glad to see us as he was physically shaking when holding him, this calmed down as we drove to the new vets. New vet did scans, chest x rays and blood tests, still nothing showing as the cause, initially seemed to to be improving, no more blood in this stools, accepting chicken (point blank refused kibble) and keeping it down, was hopeful he could come home this weekend, as I'm sure he's sulking being away from home, and back where he belongs would make him feel better ......but today we were told he's totally refusing all food now, just being tube fed, so not coming home for a while yet. Missing him loads, house seems so empty.
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Post by tony2stroke on Apr 10, 2020 21:25:08 GMT 1
He's been at the specialist since wed morning, we were told when picking him up, that he had perked up a bit, and was keeping some food down, but still bringing some up at different times of the day. Was glad to see us as he was physically shaking when holding him, this calmed down as we drove to the new vets. New vet did scans, chest x rays and blood tests, still nothing showing as the cause, initially seemed to to be improving, no more blood in this stools, accepting chicken (point blank refused kibble) and keeping it down, was hopeful he could come home this weekend, as I'm sure he's sulking being away from home, and back where he belongs would make him feel better ......but today we were told he's totally refusing all food now, just being tube fed, so not coming home for a while yet. Missing him loads, house seems so empty. I really feel for you mate, I pray you get a good outcome and soon.
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Post by veg on Apr 10, 2020 23:29:45 GMT 1
Mate so sorry for you all, I'm sure he will be ok, as you say probably got the arse .
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Post by buckshot on Apr 11, 2020 7:47:39 GMT 1
So sorry to hear your news Rigga and hope that Casper comes home to you fit and well.
I know how you feel as I had to have one of my Springers put to sleep a week last Monday.
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