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Post by midlifecrisisrd on Jan 15, 2021 20:33:17 GMT 1
Don't worry about it, it's maybe something for the future. Was just of been handy to get one off the shelf lol
I have an FZ600 arm and had to Jack the shock 30mm on my last one to get a decent ride height
The arm needs the dog leg bush holders machined out anyway so I may try and get them cut further into the box section to do the same
Cheers anyway
Steve
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Post by sidney81 on Jan 15, 2021 20:36:06 GMT 1
They look the ti*s dusty !!!
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Post by dusty350 on Jan 15, 2021 20:54:17 GMT 1
Cheers, really pleased with how they look, and work. The new engineering guys I have found are brilliant. Run by Steve, his mate Howard is often there - not sure if he is an employee as such, but both are bikers, and know their business. Howard was fitting a reducing sleeve to an Rd350B style master cylinder today so he could get the correct ratio for some brakes he was sorting. Such a neat job My other engineering place may wrap up this year - the 2 main guys are retirement age, and have had enough, and Covid has accelerated their desire to bale out and sell up The welder, Glen, has a mobile set up with Mig and Tig, so that will be a good thing, so hopefully I can still get any special bits done. I hope to become more proficient with my own lathe too, but felt these adjusters were way out of my league, so was happy to get Steve to do them on his CNC lathe Dusty
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Post by midlifecrisisrd on Jan 15, 2021 21:11:58 GMT 1
That's the problem I'm going to have
Local old boy engineer is supposed to be winding down. His wife has dementia so needs to be at home more
He says he's taking a milling machine and a lathe home but limits what he can do 🙁
Steve
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Post by dusty350 on Jan 16, 2021 10:18:22 GMT 1
The other job Steve did was to bush the outer cover. Foolishly, I didn't bush the crank cases whilst they were apart - dont know why, as I always do the Lc cases, and whilst messing around with gear ever options, it was apparent there was slight sideways play on the gearshaft where it exits the generator case. There are no oil leaks from the shaft, but I felt the sideways play could add to a sloppy gearchange, so I decided to get the case bushed. I bought some different bushes from Simply Bearings. All advertised as having an ID of 12mm, and one was a more solid 12mm ID 17mm OD, whilst the other was a split bush like we use in the cases, and 12mmID, 14mm OD; 20210116_101552 by dusty miller, on Flickr I took both to Steve, and he opted for the 12/17 bush as it was actually slightly better on the internal dimension. He bored out the case and pressed in the bush after sweating the casing; 20210115_135549 by dusty miller, on Flickr I deliberately went for a bush that was longer than the casing hole it goes in so it would add maximum support to the gearshaft; 20210115_135652 by dusty miller, on Flickr There is now zero sideways play on the shaft, so job done. Next, I needed to trim back the rubber chain protector/boot that sits over the gearshaft on the inner part of the case. As the bush extends inwards, the rubber boot would stop the case fitting on properly. To gauge how much to trim off, I put a tie wrap on the shaft, then fitted the case - it pushed the tie wrap back to where the bush would be; 20210115_140247 by dusty miller, on Flickr 20210115_140346 by dusty miller, on Flickr I could then measure from the crankcase to the tie wrap, and cut the boot to the same length; 20210115_141619 by dusty miller, on Flickr Next job will be to find a decent "kinked" gear change arm for the gear lever to connect to. I think an R6 may be right ? Dusty
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Post by dbgr on Jan 16, 2021 12:27:33 GMT 1
Hi Dusty. This seems like a good fix to take any excess movement up on the gear change shaft for when you don’t want to split the crankcases. And if you do ever split the cases you can still bush the cases out if you want to, well thought out mate and an engineering mind to solve a problem .
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Post by dusty350 on Jan 17, 2021 15:28:45 GMT 1
Hi Yea, the bush has solved the movement issue for sure. I hope never to have to split the cases again, so this was the best option. I've also fitted a number plate and bracket, plus the Yss shocks are back on the bike, and the ride height is now where I want it; 20210116_101406 by dusty miller, on Flickr 20210116_101347 by dusty miller, on Flickr I've ordered an R6 gear change lever so hopefully that will fit the old shafts splines. Fingers crossed ! Dusty
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Post by arrdy350 on Jan 17, 2021 15:34:38 GMT 1
The bike is looking good. Nice fix on the Yss shocks to ajust the ride height 😀
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Post by donkeychomp on Jan 17, 2021 22:45:43 GMT 1
Every time you start a new build thread I keep on telling myself 'he can't top the last one, it's just not possible'. I am happy to be proved wrong. Lovely work mate.
Alex
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Post by alibongo on Jan 19, 2021 14:58:06 GMT 1
That is really lovely. Excellent work.
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Post by dusty350 on Jan 19, 2021 22:23:55 GMT 1
Cheers fellas The R6 gear change arm arrived today. I want a "kinked" arm as it needs to sit further away from the casing as the rearset plates are spaced away from the frame. I did use a straight version, but with an ali spacer, which wasn't bad but not ideal, as I wanted to remove any chance of "slop" out of the gear change. If you need a kinked arm for an Lc/Pv/Ac build, I can confirm the R6 is a good fit; 20210119_200512 by dusty miller, on Flickr I rubbed the silver paint off it and used some solvol to give it a better finish; 20210119_203324 by dusty miller, on Flickr Gear change action is really slick now, so another job ticked off the list. The last main job now is paint. I need to get a couple of single outlet petrol taps off Norbo so I can double check the tank, and then it can all go off for painting. Few other bits to buy, but really not far off now Dusty
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Post by Tobyjugs on Jan 19, 2021 23:20:56 GMT 1
Thats a handy nugget of info Dusty i made my offset gear change lever but was not happy with the amount of offset. Glad to see i can buy one with even more offset.
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Post by dusty350 on Jan 20, 2021 8:33:39 GMT 1
I can whip it off and measure the offset if you need it Tony Dusty
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Post by mouse on Jan 21, 2021 8:34:28 GMT 1
Such a neat solution on the shocks Dusty, this bike is still in the 'stunning' department!
Mouse
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Post by dusty350 on Jan 21, 2021 12:27:54 GMT 1
Cheers Mouse I had time this morning to get the bike out for a side profile shot. Not an exact "before and after" but you can see how much the rear has been raised in the second pic - the first pic is the YSS shocks on maximum, standard adjusters; 20201202_152950 by dusty miller, on Flickr 20210121_104730 by dusty miller, on Flickr Same again here; 20201202_153104 by dusty miller, on Flickr 20210121_104711 by dusty miller, on Flickr It sits just right now. Had a better chance to check the gear change too, and it feels really positive now. The R6 gear lever works well - I've just ordered another for the Cafe racer bike as that has a straight lever with a spacer, so hope to do away with that. Dusty
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Post by rattler on Jan 21, 2021 13:33:25 GMT 1
Incredible work as always - very, very nice Dusty !!
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Post by mouse on Jan 21, 2021 16:38:57 GMT 1
Wow! Yes, that does the trick, looks great!
Mouse
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Post by Tobyjugs on Jan 21, 2021 16:45:45 GMT 1
I can whip it off and measure the offset if you need it Tony Dusty Yes please Dusty
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Post by dusty350 on Jan 21, 2021 20:35:37 GMT 1
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Post by sidney81 on Jan 21, 2021 20:49:06 GMT 1
Hi dusty ,bike looking Wicked 😎
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Post by drc on Jan 21, 2021 21:55:35 GMT 1
Absolutely lovely. One of the nicest air cooled I have seen. Well done
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Post by dusty350 on Jan 21, 2021 22:10:26 GMT 1
Cheers guys I'm still undecided on paintwork - will be white/red, but not sure whether to go with a Tz style scheme, like on my Cafe bike, or a standard "white heat" job ?? Dusty
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Post by Tobyjugs on Jan 21, 2021 22:29:22 GMT 1
Thanks Dusty the offset on the one i made is slightly bigger and there is still a nut wedged between for some more offset.
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Post by donkeychomp on Jan 21, 2021 22:42:15 GMT 1
Paint. If you were keeping both bikes I'd say go for a standard speed block design. But I know you aren't so I'd do the TZ style instead. Why? It would just suit the looks.
Alex
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Post by chrisg on Jan 22, 2021 13:14:40 GMT 1
Cheers guys I'm still undecided on paintwork - will be white/red, but not sure whether to go with a Tz style scheme, like on my Cafe bike, or a standard "white heat" job ?? Dusty Looking good. Why not get a massive improvement in power and torque and paint it yellow and black. Everyone knows they were and still are the fastest bikes. Seriously, as the wheels are white, Id go speedblock white/red. I notice that Willow is no in your avatar yet.
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Post by midlifecrisisrd on Jan 22, 2021 13:25:46 GMT 1
He's still trying to get them to sit still together 🤣
Steve
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Post by dusty350 on Jan 22, 2021 16:20:04 GMT 1
Had some progress on that front 20210120_100816 by dusty miller, on Flickr Still some way to go yet though As for paint, I was up for something different, but as it nears completion, I did start thinking a standard scheme might look the best. I quite like this set, with the side panels getting some speed blocks; 118839364_10157511049003807_1158604785278121140_n[4] by dusty miller, on Flickr I'm leaning towards this at the moment. I have got an idea for a Kenny style scheme, but that will have to wait for another project one day Dusty
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Post by donkeychomp on Jan 22, 2021 22:37:30 GMT 1
That picture is beautiful. Are they bonding a little now?
Alex
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Post by dusty350 on Jan 22, 2021 23:04:45 GMT 1
Hi Alex Indie is beginning to get used to Willow. She has tolerated her getting into Indie's bed with her to cuddle up a couple of times now. If Willow didn't want to bite and climb all over her, Indie would be far more accommodating ! Got a way to go yet !! Hope you are good mate Dusty
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Post by donkeychomp on Jan 22, 2021 23:31:22 GMT 1
I'm just about holding it all together. When the lockdown permits...if it ever does...I'll have to pop over to see the dogs. And the bikes. Oh, and you too Alex
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