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Post by vic6169 on Dec 30, 2019 20:13:02 GMT 1
I bought a throttle cable some time ago and i just tried to fit it and its too short on the oil pump cable.
Apart from genuine are there any good pattern ones people have bought of the evil bay??? Dont really want to pay £105 for genuine if possible.
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Post by JonW on Dec 30, 2019 22:13:09 GMT 1
I assume youre looking for an LC not a YPVS one?
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Post by vic6169 on Dec 30, 2019 22:58:26 GMT 1
Yes Jon 350LC
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Post by shaunthe2nd on Dec 31, 2019 0:48:53 GMT 1
Probably teaching you to suck eggs, but did you ease the cable behind the spring that wraps around the oil pump pulley? If not it makes the cable appear short.
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Post by JonW on Dec 31, 2019 1:29:08 GMT 1
Im sure ive said this a few times, but I always buy OEM unless norbo has a Jap one available, which i know he doesnt these days.
This is one of the most important parts of your interaction with the bike, dont skimp on it and have a shitty connection to your throttle as it'll ruin your fun.
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Post by pdxjim on Dec 31, 2019 3:08:02 GMT 1
In a pinch, I suppose one could remove the ferrule or a bit of the housing to give the oil cable a bit more length? ... and I will mention again, my TDR is still running the 30 year old OEM cable that came on the bike new, so not exactly a "consumable" item. Buy nice, or buy twice  |
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Post by vic6169 on Dec 31, 2019 9:56:53 GMT 1
Yes the cable is seated correctly under the spring.
I’ve taken a cable off my other lc and it’s clear the new cable I bought is shorter on the oil pump line.
Even the spigot that fits in the side casing is short and you can’t fit the retaining clip.
Surely Ebay, venhil or yambits pattern cables should be the correct length??
Any experience of buying a pattern cable that fits well??
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Post by midlifecrisisrd on Dec 31, 2019 10:17:29 GMT 1
Afraid if there was a decent pattern one available we would all be using them
They are apparently all crap and no doubt made by the same company as they all have the same problem
Steve
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Post by Tobyjugs on Dec 31, 2019 11:41:12 GMT 1
I thought mutts did throttle cables.
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Post by vic6169 on Dec 31, 2019 16:09:10 GMT 1
Afraid if there was a decent pattern one available we would all be using them They are apparently all crap and no doubt made by the same company as they all have the same problem Steve That’s why I asked. I’m selling one of my LCs and if I can find a good pattern rather than original it helps my back pocket lol |
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Post by roach3 on Dec 31, 2019 17:21:00 GMT 1
same as valve cables
had a pattern one on the bike, cables into junction box really loose and popping out all the time
and the usual oil pump length problem just ended up getting a new genuine one from chris at francos
perfect fit
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Post by moonyo on Dec 31, 2019 19:13:00 GMT 1
I also came across this problem with the aftermarket cable but simply trimmed the oil cable casing down to suit. Naff Chinese cable at the end of the day and will be replacing it in the very near future with the as new original 4L0 one that I won on ebay for £35 :-)
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Post by midlifecrisisrd on Dec 31, 2019 19:20:50 GMT 1
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Post by arrow on Jan 1, 2020 15:47:27 GMT 1
What a crazy world we live in!
If you are going to copy something then do just that. Don't change the spec. so it doesn't work.
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Post by vic6169 on Jan 1, 2020 19:19:47 GMT 1
What a crazy world we live in! If you are going to copy something then do just that. Don't change the spec. so it doesn't work. Im gobsmacked Gary. Just fitted the pump you did for me and it was miles away from lining up. I took the new cable off and put it against an old original i have here and there is 10mm difference in length. Like you say if they want to copy them then at least make them the same?? |
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Post by arrow on Jan 1, 2020 19:23:08 GMT 1
I've had numerous people contact me after a pump gets sent back with this very same issue.
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Post by vic6169 on Jan 1, 2020 20:42:03 GMT 1
I've had numerous people contact me after a pump gets sent back with this very same issue. It seems every pattern one has copied the wrong design. Stupid!!! Luckily just gone through my boxes and a set of carbs had a good original cable still fitted. Cleaned and lubed and ready to use. Just need a cable retaining clip for one of the slides now. |
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Post by botty on Jan 2, 2020 23:34:10 GMT 1
So.... there are no recommendations for any aftermarket cables ??
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Post by donkeychomp on Jan 3, 2020 0:04:12 GMT 1
Yambits ones are pants. In fact every one I've ever had off eBay was made by the same jokers who supply Yambits just a LOAD cheaper. Still pointless as they don't fit. NOS only way really or buy a crap one and modify it. Sometimes gen Yam ones pop up for sale that are used...
Alex
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Post by JonW on Jan 3, 2020 0:29:30 GMT 1
So.... there are no recommendations for any aftermarket cables ?? I would say the answer is that there are none. Time to raid the piggy bank and buy OEM. The OP was looking to offload the bike and for that I'd say he should defo put on an OEM one, the buyer will thank him for that and if they are a (or become a) forumer they would only need to ask the same question as he has done if he uses a cheap non fitting one. Buy cheap, buy twice is an old adage but very relevant here... |
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Post by pdxjim on Jan 3, 2020 0:30:10 GMT 1
C’mon Norbo! Big market for proper LC throttle cables!
Please?
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Post by donkeychomp on Jan 3, 2020 0:47:52 GMT 1
His A/C ones are spot on...
Alex
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Post by steve h on Jan 3, 2020 2:56:54 GMT 1
If you have all the fittings off an old oem cable it should be possible to replicate it yourself? (with the measurements) I have had bespoke cables made up for me using old cable for the fittings. Venhill do this, I used someone else..cant remember who but job was spot on.
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Post by JonW on Jan 3, 2020 4:21:42 GMT 1
C’mon Norbo! Big market for proper LC throttle cables! Please? I'd really have thought he would have them in his shop if he could get them... he knows there is a market lol |
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Post by raven13 on Jan 3, 2020 7:54:49 GMT 1
we ( @kp motorcycles) make any nla or ridiculously expensive cable we need in the shop.
you can get venhill to copy any cable you need, so maybe anyone with a half decent condition 350lc cable could take it upon themselves to get a few made(dependant on price of course)
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Post by dusty350 on Jan 3, 2020 8:32:18 GMT 1
I had one of Norbos pattern Lc cables and it was absolutely spot on. Only cost £30 as opposed to Yamaha's £105 ! Unfortunately Norbo had sold out of them last time I asked. So someone makes a decent pattern ! Dusty  |
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Post by shaunthe2nd on Jan 3, 2020 9:16:17 GMT 1
I had one of Norbos pattern Lc cables and it was absolutely spot on. Only cost £30 as opposed to Yamaha's £105 ! Unfortunately Norbo had sold out of them last time I asked. So someone makes a decent pattern ! Dusty Plus 1 on that. I bought a copy one via Mutts in the summer to try on my latest stock build, but running at least 6 months late on the build (where have you heard that before?) so not had chance to try it yet. |
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Post by cb250g5 on Jan 3, 2020 9:48:17 GMT 1
I had 4 of Venhills powervalve cables, via Norbo, all 4 had different lengths of inner cable....
Bought a Venhill throttle cable making kit now, comes with lots of ends, and is easy enough to do. I still have some proper leaded solder left. I've heard that the lead free stuff isn't as good for Bowden cables.
If you have an old cable with boxes & fittings intact, I'd be making my own.
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Post by vic6169 on Jan 3, 2020 11:03:21 GMT 1
I’ve started something here lol
I can’t believe with all the sellers on eBay etc selling cables that none are the correct length.
I have a TDR250 and those cables are not available now. At least genuine LCs are but I agree there is enough demand for them should Norbo be able to get sone more made??
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Post by JonW on Jan 3, 2020 12:21:10 GMT 1
I had 4 of Venhills powervalve cables, via Norbo, all 4 had different lengths of inner cable.... Bought a Venhill throttle cable making kit now, comes with lots of ends, and is easy enough to do. I still have some proper leaded solder left. I've heard that the lead free stuff isn't as good for Bowden cables. If you have an old cable with boxes & fittings intact, I'd be making my own. Ive also had crappy cables from Venhill. |
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