tomtom1
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Post by tomtom1 on Oct 5, 2019 14:17:05 GMT 1
Hi all
Does anyone know if 2T oil has a shelf life, I've bought some motul 710 brand new sealed, I've googled it and some say 3 years, some 5, some say as long as it's stored under 40deg in the shade and unopened it should last indefinitely.
Cheers
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Post by rigga on Oct 5, 2019 15:54:24 GMT 1
Well if its not the last option I'm in trouble, no way I'm going to get through all the castrol I collected when Tesco sold it off cheap.
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Post by antos on Oct 5, 2019 19:25:31 GMT 1
How long was it in the ground 😉 itl be good I reckon
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Post by earthman on Oct 5, 2019 19:57:41 GMT 1
How long was it in the ground 😉 itl be good I reckon I think it's more to do with the additives that are added to it. |
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Post by tomtom1 on Oct 6, 2019 10:28:59 GMT 1
At the rate it uses it I'm not going to worry too much, just wondered if the was a use by date.
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Post by earthman on Oct 6, 2019 11:39:31 GMT 1
When I bought a 20L drum of the Exol stuff, chap mentioned 5 years or so,..I'm using my LC a fair bit so I'll probably be needing a new drum of the stuff around then.
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Post by JonW on Oct 6, 2019 12:51:27 GMT 1
Some VWs have filled for life gearboxes. If you buy the same oil from the dealer it has a use by date of about 2years. How does that work then... ?
Use by dates are often about stock control and getting customers to buy new stuff all the time, not always sensible.
I think most oils we use are stable enough to be fine for long term use.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 6, 2019 18:08:37 GMT 1
Is there a best before date on the bottle ?
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Post by earthman on Oct 6, 2019 18:18:56 GMT 1
Some VWs have filled for life gearboxes. If you buy the same oil from the dealer it has a use by date of about 2years. How does that work then... ? Use by dates are often about stock control and getting customers to buy new stuff all the time, not always sensible. I think most oils we use are stable enough to be fine for long term use. Good point, personally I don't believe in this sealed for life rubbish, I'll always replace fluids if I can. |
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Post by steve h on Oct 6, 2019 21:32:49 GMT 1
My old fella found some silkolene comp 2 in the shed ..it was 30yrs old, put it in his chainsaw with no problems and used the whole litre..
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Post by rigga on Oct 6, 2019 21:50:23 GMT 1
My old fella found some silkolene comp 2 in the shed ..it was 30yrs old, put it in his chainsaw with no problems and used the whole litre.. That's good, very much doubt I have 30 years riding left in me, so good to go. |
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Post by steve h on Oct 6, 2019 22:44:10 GMT 1
I would not recommend it though.. It was gloopy and congealed and had "protect from frost" written on it... must of been frozen many times. I have a bottle of rock oil that's now older...
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Post by copper99 on Oct 7, 2019 20:28:18 GMT 1
If you email Motul, they will give you the exact answer.
I had some oil from BMW last week and that stated on the bottle 3 years as long as stored in a cool, dry place away from sunlight and extremes of heat..
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tomtom1
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Post by tomtom1 on Oct 8, 2019 21:43:20 GMT 1
The bottles just say 16/11/16, doesn't say use by or poured on.
Cheers
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Post by Deleted on Oct 8, 2019 22:15:30 GMT 1
Unless you had a big barrel of it, just recycle it. £15 a ltr new or a £1,000 engine rebuild. Your choice. I know what I'd do :-)
The other thing is buy Castrol Racing 1 fully synthetic. You can't go wrong (Opiel oils only carry new stock)
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Post by chrisg on Oct 9, 2019 18:36:02 GMT 1
Some VWs have filled for life gearboxes. If you buy the same oil from the dealer it has a use by date of about 2years. How does that work then... ? Use by dates are often about stock control and getting customers to buy new stuff all the time, not always sensible. I think most oils we use are stable enough to be fine for long term use. My thoughts exactly. Oil companies cashing in  |
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Post by earthman on Oct 9, 2019 20:39:36 GMT 1
Some VWs have filled for life gearboxes. If you buy the same oil from the dealer it has a use by date of about 2years. How does that work then... ? Use by dates are often about stock control and getting customers to buy new stuff all the time, not always sensible. I think most oils we use are stable enough to be fine for long term use. My thoughts exactly. Oil companies cashing in I'd say that it's the car companies who are cashing in, they want you to buy an whole new gearbox/car sooner than later. |
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Post by JonW on Oct 9, 2019 22:38:23 GMT 1
My thoughts exactly. Oil companies cashing in I'd say that it's the car companies who are cashing in, they want you to buy an whole new gearbox/car sooner than later. That could well be true as well. Bear in mind that Honda let slip that most of their cars have a 10year lifespan. So dont assume that you can buy a car now and be driving it through your retirement etc One thing tho... most cars have a warranty as a minimum, some have a 7 or 10 year. The lifetime gearbox oil lasts that amount of time at least. Ie its usually longer than the shelf life... Tho i just checked and VWs only have a 2 year warranty in the UK, its 5 here and our conditions are arguably tougher. |
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Post by earthman on Oct 10, 2019 7:53:46 GMT 1
I'd say that it's the car companies who are cashing in, they want you to buy an whole new gearbox/car sooner than later. That could well be true as well. Bear in mind that Honda let slip that most of their cars have a 10year lifespan. So dont assume that you can buy a car now and be driving it through your retirement etc One thing tho... most cars have a warranty as a minimum, some have a 7 or 10 year. The lifetime gearbox oil lasts that amount of time at least. Ie its usually longer than the shelf life... Tho i just checked and VWs only have a 2 year warranty in the UK, its 5 here and our conditions are arguably tougher. Skoda told a mate of mine that their 'lifetime' amounts to 8 years. Shocking really, to think back when my mates and I were all 17, all of our cars were at least 10 years old or more, still plenty of life in them, well with some TLC. Lol Times change of course, teenagers now wouldn't be seen dead in an 'old' car, what with these PCP plans etc, most go down that route to get a newer vehicle I suspect. |
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Post by rigga on Oct 10, 2019 8:08:49 GMT 1
Car's certainly do have a lifespan, and manufacturers either facelift, or design a new model, but they are obliged to supply parts for at least 10 years after that model ceases production ...... so more life than you think.
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Post by earthman on Oct 10, 2019 11:13:11 GMT 1
Car's certainly do have a lifespan, and manufacturers either facelift, or design a new model, but they are obliged to supply parts for at least 10 years after that model ceases production ...... so more life than you think. With some items like say those DSG gearboxes, it just wouldn't be viable due to the cost involved though. |
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Post by rigga on Oct 10, 2019 13:39:44 GMT 1
By law they have to, regardless of cost.
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