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Post by Deleted on Aug 7, 2019 13:11:11 GMT 1
Has this turned into three companies Billet world (Dean Ryde) after he left Metmachex www.billetworld.co.uk/Metmachex Engineering (The original metmachex formed by the Ryde family) metmachex.net/Metmachex Swingarms (a new company formed by ex metmachex employers) en-gb.facebook.com/metmachexswingarms/Anyone know what the truth is about this lot and who to buy a metmachex swing arm from ? |
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Post by veg on Aug 7, 2019 14:06:36 GMT 1
The general consensus seems to be buy from the new metmachex formed from the ex employees they are considerably cheaper and have replaced the eccentric adjusters with slotted chain adjusters.
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Post by midlifecrisisrd on Aug 7, 2019 18:27:07 GMT 1
Dean fecked off and started his own business
Metmachex sold the swingarm side of the business to the new lot
New lot seem easy to deal with, cheaper and don't charge £50 for each little extra like bobbin mounts
You get the choice of eccentric or slotted adjusters now
Steve
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Post by veg on Aug 7, 2019 18:30:11 GMT 1
Or £110 for a new rear wheel spindle bar stewards
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Post by dusty350 on Aug 8, 2019 7:27:22 GMT 1
The new owners are Gary and Tamsyn. Gary worked for Bill Ryde at Metmachex since he was about 15. He did a lot of the fabrication and welding on the original swingarms. Bill sold the swingarm business to Gary and Tamsyn. Gary was doing it part time but is now on it full time. The quality is fantastic, and the new owners are easy to deal with and eager to please - not something you could say about Dean, who had zero customer service skills  Prices are lower now too. My Lc arm for Rgv wheel, with bobbins, chain slider and slotted adjusters was £200 cheaper in 2018 than my original with the crappy eccentrics in 2015 ! The name changed to reflect the new company. Dusty  |
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Post by LC_BOTT on Aug 8, 2019 8:07:36 GMT 1
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Post by midlifecrisisrd on Aug 8, 2019 8:22:58 GMT 1
Group price was £500 plus post I think
Steve
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Post by Deleted on Aug 8, 2019 8:56:25 GMT 1
Thanks everyone
So Old stuff have Metmachex engineering stickers and new stuff has Metmachex swingarms stickers. And you still need it fit the chain slider yourself :-)
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Post by dusty350 on Aug 8, 2019 10:55:26 GMT 1
Correct, regards the stickers. They are now Metmachex Swingarms. With the Lc/Rgv arms, they supply the slider but don't fit it. This is because they cant guarantee the position of the chain run. I was a bit annoyed that wasn't pointed out when I ordered the Lc/Rgv arm from Tamsyn - only found out when the arm arrived and the slider was loose in the box. They did supply 2 rivnuts though - it's actually my job today to fit a slider I made myself. The other issue being the slider they supplied wont fit on the swingarm in the place it needs to be. It's a generic item, so I sort of get that they cant guess how it needs to be and exactly where to fit it. I found them helpful once I pointed the issue out though, but get all the details nailed down when ordering. Dusty |
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Post by dusty350 on Aug 8, 2019 13:19:18 GMT 1
And yes, the group buy for an Lc arm for Lc wheel was £500 plus post. That included bobbins, slider and chain guard all fitted. They did a batch of 20 initially with the slotted adjusters and sold the lot quite quickly. Dusty |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 9, 2019 10:08:58 GMT 1
What is consensus then, concentric (classic Metmachex look and easy to maintain wheel alignment) or moddern style slotted adjusters with the inherent wheel alignment issue ?
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Post by veg on Aug 9, 2019 10:39:03 GMT 1
I have a classic metmachex tbh I would rather have the slotted adjusters but more for the look
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Post by tipfinchy on Aug 9, 2019 10:54:17 GMT 1
as above , I know you cant always go by the adjustment marks on most swingarms for wheel alignment but cant see any on slotted type in the photos I have seen of them
mart
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Post by midlifecrisisrd on Aug 9, 2019 11:38:31 GMT 1
Personally I would go slotted
The ride height changing with adjustment is a pain and any one I've had suffered from a bit of slop so one side would move slightly before the other 🙁
Steve
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Post by dusty350 on Aug 9, 2019 12:10:27 GMT 1
I had a brand new arm with eccentrics. I think they are a waste of time. As Steve said, everytime you adjust your chain it alters your ride height. Plus the eccentrics arent very accurate. One side will move a fair bit before the other side catches up. Slotted for me every time, although there are no adjustment mark's on that system either !
Dusty👍
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Post by midlifecrisisrd on Aug 9, 2019 13:50:05 GMT 1
If you ain't capable of using a rule or vernier to measure accurately then you shouldn't be pissin about with spanners 😁
Steve
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Post by stusco on Aug 9, 2019 15:24:01 GMT 1
Use your chain monkey
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Post by Tobyjugs on Aug 9, 2019 15:34:51 GMT 1
I use a piece of fishing line. Does that mean i can still use my spanners?
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Post by veg on Aug 9, 2019 17:19:30 GMT 1
If you ain't capable of using a rule or vernier to measure accurately then you shouldn't be pissin about with spanners 😁 Steve Says the bloke that in the time it’s taken him to half finish a bike dusty has done 3 crackers 😁 |
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Post by midlifecrisisrd on Aug 9, 2019 18:02:30 GMT 1
If you ain't capable of using a rule or vernier to measure accurately then you shouldn't be pissin about with spanners 😁 Steve Says the bloke that in the time it’s taken him to half finish a bike dusty has done 3 crackers 😁 I'll have you know that technically it's 75% done Oh and I have a 25% done and 10% done that I just haven't shared yet 😜 Dusty still wins Can I now ask how many you have finished and running well 🖕 Steve |
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Post by veg on Aug 9, 2019 18:19:48 GMT 1
1, that's 1 running and running well. It needs new pipes making for them and just remember i didn't do the easy route of bolting modern crap on.
Or cheat by swapping the motor for a pv one 🤭
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Post by midlifecrisisrd on Aug 9, 2019 19:29:32 GMT 1
1, that's 1 running and running well. It needs new pipes making for them and just remember i didn't do the easy route of bolting modern crap on. Or cheat by swapping the motor for a pv one 🤭 If it needs the pipes changing then it ain't finished 😁 Steve |
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Post by Yogi on Aug 9, 2019 19:45:27 GMT 1
1, that's 1 running and running well. It needs new pipes making for them and just remember i didn't do the easy route of bolting modern crap on. Or cheat by swapping the motor for a pv one 🤭 If it needs the pipes changing then it ain't finished 😁 Steve Without a pv motor I’d say it was finished before it was started 🥴🤪 |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 10, 2019 9:00:24 GMT 1
Thanks for completely hijacking the swing arm thread :-)
I get the ride height thing and the ease, in reality, the slotted adjusters give to checking alignment. And yes you still need to check alignment even with the eccentric adjusters. But I'm still not sure.
I'll probably go eccentrics as I do like the idea of ride height adjustment for the same chain adjustment. It is after all a crappy old bad handling LC not a S1000RR trying to break the TT lap record, and I lend it to mates that are taller than me (being a short @rse that' snot difficult)
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Post by midlifecrisisrd on Aug 10, 2019 10:36:16 GMT 1
Thanks for completely hijacking the swing arm thread :-) I get the ride height thing and the ease, in reality, the slotted adjusters give to checking alignment. And yes you still need to check alignment even with the eccentric adjusters. But I'm still not sure. I'll probably go eccentrics as I do like the idea of ride height adjustment for the same chain adjustment. It is after all a crappy old bad handling LC not a S1000RR trying to break the TT lap record, and I lend it to mates that are taller than me (being a short @rse that' snot difficult) Sorry, I need to be more adult about about things All I'll say is "he started it😛" Understand what you are saying about the eccentrics. I personally prefer the slotted but admittedly on the eccentrics you don't have to mess about with adjuster bolts Think I would put a mark on the arm front and back of the eccentrics on the centre line so it could be set accurately with a vernier Now that I have made a sensible answer I'll have to find an outlet for a comedic outburst VEG! Steve |
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Post by veg on Aug 10, 2019 11:32:16 GMT 1
Sorry Phil 🤭
Steve 🤬
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Post by Deleted on Aug 10, 2019 12:21:28 GMT 1
No Worries. I've gone for eccentrics :-)
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