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Post by Tobyjugs on Jun 8, 2018 22:15:43 GMT 1
Hi Dusty it looks like you have got some nice parts there. Porting work to fit the Larger reeds looks very well done. The single reed petal is also something that Mr Farnham has done in the past, though i have never seen that colour material before. It could be reed material developed by Tony Doukas, he made two different spec reed material both coloured differently and sold by EBC. If your curious drop him an email he is very friendly. I would remove the bit of stud bar in the top casing and replace it with an 8,8 stud if you have problems getting one pm me. Also this is just personal preference i think the squish band on the cylinder head looks too wide.
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Post by bid on Jun 8, 2018 22:18:33 GMT 1
well done, great haul there, really miss my aircooled 250e it was my first, HHN 689V, wish i still had itπ’
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Post by dusty350 on Jun 9, 2018 7:55:48 GMT 1
Thanks guys Toby - I did think I would put a proper stud in the top case. I've never built anything other than a standard engine, so I want to know the top end is "right" before I fit it. Bottom end will be straightforward enough but I will get things like squish checked out before I bolt it all in. Anyone else have a 375 ? Be good to swap notes on the specs. Dusty
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Post by dusty350 on Jun 9, 2018 10:00:35 GMT 1
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Post by oldelsieboy on Jun 9, 2018 10:20:36 GMT 1
I think the main problem with this type of conversion is how thin the liner is, not too sure if it would be possible to rebore any larger incase of any mishaps.
OEB
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Post by Tobyjugs on Jun 9, 2018 12:01:38 GMT 1
Who ever did it thought the cooling of the cylinders is very important. Is the head matched to the barrels in respect to cooling?
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Post by dusty350 on Jun 9, 2018 19:47:16 GMT 1
Hi Yea, liner looks quite thin. Is that standard on a 375 ? Toby, I will have to go and look at the head to check, but on the barrels the passages at the front and the back have been reworked. Don't remember my last Lc being like that. Dusty
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Post by dusty350 on Aug 10, 2018 8:29:04 GMT 1
This bike has laid dormant since I bought it, but I have been collecting a few parts for it. The Tz/pv project bike has given me some engineering hurdles to overcome, so this bike is about being a relatively straightforward rebuild in comparison ! It will run parallel to the other bike so I will divide my time between the 2 !! I had the shift bush mod done by my local engineering guys; 20180810_073644 by David Miller, on Flickr Worth doing whilst the engine was apart. The 375 top end is an unknown for me. I took it to Brands back in July and asked Mutts to take a look at it. He thought it well done but didn't recognise who may have done it. It may be something you can bolt on and it's brilliant, or maybe needs a lot of setting up - I don't know, so with that in mind, I decided to buy some used 350 barrels that are on standard sized bores; 20180810_073709 by David Miller, on Flickr One does have a nic just below a transfer port, so will get that addressed before I get them vapour blasted. I have a NOS 350 head that can be used with them and those twin choke Mikunis that came with the bike, as long as they line up ok with the airbox. I think I will leave the Fzr front end on. It's been well modded to fit, the wheels are newly powdercoated and the brakes are awesome, if lacking feel. The Rgv usd front end I bought will sit in a corner for a rainy day !! I may do something with the front mudguard though - doesn't quite sit right for me. The Lc rear wheel has been fitted with an undersized rear tyre - a 100 instead of a 110 - don't know why ? I'm thinking of going with an Avon 120 rear - I know, oversize, but they look so skinny otherwise !! Frame has already been powdercoated nicely, I have a decent bodykit in white/2 stripe red, and I've just bought a pair of Mutts pipes in stainless with 6 inch cans He is also supplying a Yss shock for it. All the black plastics are good but will get a going over, and there is a new replica rear muddie that I may fit - although I do prefer cut, shorty guards ! So, basically a standardish 350 Lc. Not like me at all !! Dusty Ps. I got the logbook back in my name a few weeks back, so that was good news. The bike is on a "W" reg, so will get a plate made up for her.
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Post by oldbritguy on Aug 10, 2018 9:23:47 GMT 1
Another cracking build in the making Dusty by the look of things Ever thought of starting your own business up? I am positive you you would be inundated with work Once again looking forward to your progress on this one John
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Post by dusty350 on Aug 16, 2018 9:05:29 GMT 1
Hi John I'm too slow to do it as a job !! Rolling chassis got stripped down a bit more yesterday 20180815_094812 by David Miller, on Flickr I had a better look at the FZR600 conversion. Whoever did it spent a lot of time and effort, and I'm really impressed; 20180815_095008 by David Miller, on Flickr You can see where the standard fit Fzr clip-ons fitted. The bar risers look like they came from the factory ! Really tidy; 20180815_103432 by David Miller, on Flickr Compared to a standard top yoke; op by David Miller, on Flickr 20180815_103447 by David Miller, on Flickr pi by David Miller, on Flickr One issue is that there is no stop on the frame for the lock stops ; 20180815_095204 by David Miller, on Flickr The frame has been nicely powdercoated, so why someone has done that beats me ? I popped down to my engineering fella yesterday and got a steel offcut. I've started making a stop to go on the frame. I will take him the rolling chassis and get him to weld it on. I need to dress back the powdercoat finish but will do it as neatly as I can, and then do a paint touch up afterwards. There is a lot of detail in getting the Lc wheels to fit. An alloy spacer each side between the wheel and the discs; 20180815_094831 by David Miller, on Flickr 20180815_094825 by David Miller, on Flickr And as you can see in that pic, a spacer that allows the Lc speedo drive to be retained. Discs appear new, as do the tyres. Next issue, regards tyres, is the rear; 20180815_094919 by David Miller, on Flickr I thought it looked narrow, but I am used to 150's in my hybrids so thought nothing of it. Had a closer look and the rear is a 100 section as opposed to a 110 as standard ? Again, why ? That will get changed. Once the lock stop is done I will strip the rest down and start to build back up. The forks will get cleaned up first. I would love a box section arm for it too. I've ordered a Yss shock from Mutts, and a set of his pipes in stainless I hope to get a rolling chassis up before the winter sets in. Watch this space !! Dusty
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Post by dusty350 on Aug 21, 2018 19:42:17 GMT 1
Today I took the rolling chassis down to Clive, my engineering guru, and got him to weld the frame stop on that I had made from an offcut of steel he gave me last week; 20180821_170112 by David Miller, on Flickr I had to take part of the headstock back to bare metal so they could get a good surface to TIG weld to. Now that's all done, I will clean it all up and get some black gloss back onto the headstock. Heaven knows why a previous owner didn't do it before powdercoating the frame - took me half an hour to make the piece of steel, and the welder about a minute to weld it on, and a tenner to do it !! Now that is done, I can strip the rest of the rolling chassis down to check, clean and start building back up. Getting back to a rolling chassis should be relatively quick. Frame and wheels are newly powdecoated so no job to do there, so my first job will be to clean up the forks. I'm going to get the rear tyre sorted this week, and put in an order to Norbo for some bits and bobs. I spoke to Tamsyn at Metmachex today, and have ordered a box section arm with the slotted chain adjusters That's a couple of weeks away at the mo, so will try and have everything ready by the time it arrives to bolt it in and get it up on it's wheels. This was the last pic I took before I came in; 20180821_181431 by David Miller, on Flickr Dusty
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Post by yamark on Aug 21, 2018 20:59:19 GMT 1
That top yoke is a work of art. You're cracking on at a fair pace mate - with 2 bikes on the go, I think your in the running to take Yogis "sausage factory" crown . The front end looks spot on, although I'm not sure about the headlight brackets. Not to my taste. Is there room to fit a speedo drive?
Keep up the great work - twice!
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Post by dusty350 on Aug 21, 2018 21:41:23 GMT 1
Hi Mark Yogi is top Sausage, without a doubt. I can never take that title from him !! I agree regards the headlight brackets - I prefer the Triumph ones I bought for the Tz build. I plan on changing them. A lot of work has gone into the front end conversion, and I think the handlebar risers look "factory", as they are so well done. It does use a standard Lc speedo drive, with a modded spindle; 20180821_181327 by David Miller, on Flickr And a clever solution to link the speedo drive to the forks, and act as a spacer too; 20180821_181424 by David Miller, on Flickr I find it strange that someone goes to all that effort and then doesn't sort the lock stop on the frame before powdercoating ? Anyway, that's sorted now. I may even build the Lc engine up first, instead of the Pv for the other bike. All the parts I bought from Fowlers can be used in the Lc bottom end, and there will come a point when I have to progress one bike more than the other. This one could certainly be finished more quickly. Dusty
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Post by dusty350 on Aug 23, 2018 21:36:31 GMT 1
Today I started to build this bike back up. I had the yokes out to clean and apply new grease, and check the bearings which look fairly new so that's good. I gave the frame a coat of car polish as it was covered in dust, and I got the polishing wheel set up to do a couple of parts. The forks are pretty good, but I needed to do something with them as they were a bit rougher than what I would like. I quite like the gold finish on the lowers, and didn't fancy hours of removing it and polishing them. I opted to remove the silver paint on the bottom of the forks instead, as I felt that cleaning them up would improve the appearance of the gold parts. The paint looked tough, but was no match for that industrial paint stripper I bought; 20180823_115736 by David Miller, on Flickr After getting the paint off, I gave them a light rub down, and then about 10 minutes each on the polisher - just enough to give them a bit of a shine without being a pain to upkeep. Yokes and forks are now back on the bike, and I gave the handlebars a buff up too which removed a couple of blemishes. Front wheel will get a good clean tomorrow and will go back on. I think the carbon muddie looks too long behind the forks so I'm going to look at cutting that back. I also bought some black enamel paint today so will touch up the new lockstop on the frame. Also going to respray the speedo drive and wheel spacers. Dusty
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Post by marrcel on Aug 24, 2018 14:13:57 GMT 1
May be a combined tacho speedo for you? You can take these apart and place the old 31k tacho plate in. Just cut out a part for the lcd.
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Post by dusty350 on Aug 24, 2018 19:28:55 GMT 1
Hi Marcel I think you are thinking of my other build - this bike has standard Lc clocks being bolted back on. Thanks for the link though Today, I stripped the discs off the wheel to give them a good polish. You can see the ally spacers needed to line the discs up with the calipers on the Fzr forks; 20180824_120614 by David Miller, on Flickr Just need to paint the speedo drive and spacers and the wheel can go back in. I also had an early Xmas present, thanks to Muttsnuts 20180824_100005 by David Miller, on Flickr I will polish the stainless pipes a bit but not too shiny. I need to get the engine built before I can fit them, but thought I would buy them whilst I still had some funds left !! They look awesome Dusty
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Post by yamman1066 on Aug 24, 2018 19:47:40 GMT 1
hi,nice pipes there whats the cost with the cans form Muttsnuts ? please
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Post by dusty350 on Aug 24, 2018 19:55:25 GMT 1
Hi Best give Dave a pm through the forum as there are different options on pipes and cans. Turnaround was less than 2 weeks !! Super quick ! Dusty
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Post by midlifecrisisrd on Aug 24, 2018 19:57:20 GMT 1
Hi Best give Dave a pm through the forum as there are different options on pipes and cans. Turnaround was less than 2 weeks !! Super quick ! Dusty Agree with the speed, my GP lc hybrid ones were 2 weeks as well Steve
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Post by marrcel on Aug 24, 2018 20:59:08 GMT 1
Polishing the ss not to shiny. Very inspiring. Keeping the colouring of the welts?
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Post by tony1964 on Aug 25, 2018 18:56:42 GMT 1
Coming along nicely Dusty, would be nice if you could speed things up a bit, gives me something to read when i'm on 12 hour nights Those pipes do look the dogs Tony
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Post by dusty350 on Aug 25, 2018 22:59:19 GMT 1
Hi Marcel! I'm not going mad with the polishing so the colour of the welds may still be visible, but I'm not worried if they are polished out. Hi Tony - yea the pipes look lovely don't they. They are the " all round performance" pipes that Dave supplies and I really look forward to the day I can bolt them on And hopefully you will have plenty to read with the winter evenings on the way !! Had some shed time this afternoon so did some small parts. I rubbed down and then scrubbed the inner mudguard, before re blacking it; 20180825_181602(0) by David Miller, on Flickr 20180825_181551 by David Miller, on Flickr I refitted the connector holder with button head screws, and also cut a newrubber flap for the inside of the guard where the shock passes through as it had seen better days. The speedo drive and front wheel spacer have been prepped and resprayed in gloss black enamel; 20180825_185905 by David Miller, on Flickr I also spent a fair amount of time scrubbing the inside of the expansion tank, which was particularly manky; 20180825_222422 by David Miller, on Flickr I also fitted a standard length side stand as the chrome item that was on the bike was a couple of inches shorter for some reason, and leant the bike over too far; 20180825_181538 by David Miller, on Flickr I also refurbed the battery box which came up nice but didn't get a pic of that ! Hope to get the front wheel in tomorrow and look at trimming the carbon mudguard. Dusty
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Post by dusty350 on Sept 1, 2018 20:48:16 GMT 1
Been gradually putting parts back onto the bike as I've been cleaning/repainting them. The front wheel went back in, and I cut a good few inches off the back of the carbon muddie before I refitted it. I also cut off the redundant brackets that would have mounted the muddie to Lc forks; 20180901_154948 by David Miller, on Flickr I cleaned the blue spots too before bolting them on. Switchgear went back on, and I changed the Ypvs clutch perch and lever that was originally fitted for a newly powdercoated Lc perch I had in a box of bits; 20180829_161502 by David Miller, on Flickr The rear inner muddie went back on with the refurbed battery box, and I got the reg/rectifier spick and span before fitting; 20180829_161453 by David Miller, on Flickr I didn't like the headlamp brackets that were originally on the bike, so I pinched the new Triumph brackets off the Tz bike ! I ordered a new pattern headlight from Norbo, along with a stainless side stand spring, and new side panel rubbers. I refitted the clocks temporarily to work out the headlight position, but the clocks will come off and get stripped down for new dials - the redline has faded badly and I want to give them a good clean; 20180901_154931 by David Miller, on Flickr That pic also shows the clutch lever I found in another box. Originally anodised black, it was a pig of a job to get it back to ally. I then polished it along with the footrest plates and a new stainless lift handle from Norbo; 20180901_095502 by David Miller, on Flickr I couldn't find any decent footrests in my spares - not that I could bolt straight on anyway, and then I remembered I had the ally pegs left over from a previous build. The benefit of then is newly powercoated , original brackets and polished pegs, so they could go straight on; 20180901_154856 by David Miller, on Flickr Not the best pic of them, but it shows the new rep rear guard that came with the bike. I've resisted the urge, so far, to shorten it as I don't like long rear guards normally, but it seems a shame to cut it. I'm going to wait until the swingarm and wheel are fitted before I decided which way to go with that. This will be the most "unhybrid" Lc I've ever rebuilt !! Likewise, I didn't cut off the pillion pegs this time ! Airbox and rear light tray are getting a refurb tomorrow - not sure whether to recess the rear light or not ? Lastly, for now, whilst I had the polishing wheel out, I gave my new pipes the lightest of passes across the mops. One done, one not; 20180901_104439 by David Miller, on Flickr Both done; 20180901_184720 by David Miller, on Flickr I much prefer them with a bit of a sheen. Dusty
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Post by donkeychomp on Sept 1, 2018 22:33:48 GMT 1
How did I miss all this? Really nice work Dusty. I take it she's going to be finished now lol On the subject of the headlamp mounts...those 50mm ones I thought I had a are 32mm. I can drop them off if you want a look at them. They resemble the original LC ones. Alex
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Post by mouse on Sept 2, 2018 7:15:08 GMT 1
Front mudguard looks so much better cut down. The rear inner looks great, does the finish last once you start using it, or does it need re-doing every now and then?
Really like the 'light' polish on the pipes too, i wonder about doing mine. I wouldn't cut the rear mudguard, maybe just remove it?
Mouse
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Post by marrcel on Sept 2, 2018 8:08:06 GMT 1
The polish gives definite more bling to the exhausts!π How did you do that? My clutch handle is stil black and i want to make it alu also. Do you use machines? And what kind of polish?
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Post by dusty350 on Sept 2, 2018 10:05:20 GMT 1
Hi Alex My Rgv 21 forks are 41mm. I've already bought another Triumph set to replace the ones I pinched for this bike ! The first load of engine parts I bought to rebuild the Ypvs engine will now be used on the Lc engine for this bike - all parts that are interchangeable between models luckily. As long as the crank is good - need to get it checked at PJME - then I can build up a bottom end quite quickly. I'm trying to use good parts that I already have, and refurb what's there to keep costs down as much as possible. I plan for this bike to be a rider for next year - be nice to have one on the road for a change. So with that in mind, I'm trying not to be too fussy about stuff like little cracks in side panels etc. Once the swingarm is ready, I can get a complete rolling chassis up and then it's just the engine to do. Hi Mouse - I use a liquid boot polish to re black the plastic. Seems quite durable judging by other bikes I have used it on. Waterproof too. Jury is out on the muddie until I fit the swingarm and wheel - I may be swayed with keeping it !! Marcel - I use 6" mops of varying grades in a bench grinder - it's the only way to get a half decent finish without a ton of elbow grease and time to be honest. The anodised finish on alloy parts tends to be quite hard to remove. Oven cleaner has been mentioned before but I've not tried it. So I sand it off which obviously can scratch the ally surface, but the polishing mops will remove the scratches easily enough and leave a nice shine that can be improved with more effort. Be prepared for black crap everywhere though - I do mine outside with the machine mounted on a Workmate workbench. Dusty
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Post by tipfinchy on Sept 2, 2018 10:36:27 GMT 1
another really interesting build Dusty , love the detailed and informative builds you do and the speed you progress at! a small problem I have with the side stand on my hybrid is the opposite of yours as mine is almost to long and the bike stands too upright is there different sizes or was your one you took off modified? mart
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Post by dusty350 on Sept 2, 2018 10:44:28 GMT 1
Hi The one I took off had been shortened - bike lent too far over for comfort ! Hybridising the bike can alter the lean angle depending on what parts you are using. Do you have a standard stand fitted at the mo ? My orange hybrid fell off the stand as it was too upright. I modded the stop on the frame bracket so the stand settled in a more forward position when it was down - made a big difference. Dusty
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Post by yamark on Sept 2, 2018 18:24:41 GMT 1
Super stuff mate. Your cracking on at a great pace. The polishing on the exhausts really works for me. Great work all round - "Dusty's magic wand", is at it again!
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