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Post by jollyr6 on May 3, 2018 12:19:36 GMT 1
Im planning on going to Normandy landings on my 125lc i dont live far from hull so will gt ferry to bruge then do 150 miles one day into france and 120 the next day to caen im going to limit my top speed to 50mph to not overdo it on the engine,engine had a full rebuild last year new bearings seals etc etc i ran it in and caned it and siezed it as it was running to lean ive since done topend rebuild done the heat cycles just need to do another 50/100 miles to bed rings in and do a plug chop. when i wa\s 16 i used to go miles on my little rd50 Question is do you lot think 125 would do it with out to much trouble I kno i know its a 2t theres bound to be trouble what do you lot reckon i should take with me  ? |
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Post by mellow on May 3, 2018 17:50:34 GMT 1
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Post by begbie on May 3, 2018 18:03:11 GMT 1
What People tend to forget is Yamaha or any Motorcycle manufactures made 2 strokes that had to do everything a 4 stroke would. These bikes had to commute and had sensible service intervals, I don't know what they are for your bike but I have an old AR50 manual here, and the first major service is a decoke at 2500 miles, this was 83, and oils have come a long way since then. If the bike is near stock and your sure the fueling is good, ride it at 70mph all the way there, Thats how I rode mine to work all week back in the day (250 miles a week) It'll be fine.
I have just rebuilt my TDR250 and will be riding it 2000 miles around Europe for 2 weeks in July.
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Post by russpuss on May 3, 2018 18:52:37 GMT 1
I did Germany and back 1341 miles in 2015 on an air cooled rd 400, took clothes and money. Blew a fuse and an exhaust rubber connector on way back, did 50-60 all way there and thrashed it back. Don’t worry about it and take plenty of pics for the memories. 3 days to get there and 2 to get back.
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Post by earthman on May 3, 2018 19:06:53 GMT 1
Sounds like a great adventure, best of luck to you, one concern maybe the availability of 2 stroke oil at petrol stations along the way?? I dunno, last time I drove through France, I didn't have that oil on my mind so wouldn't have noticed.
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Post by graeme6 on May 3, 2018 23:00:16 GMT 1
Just been talking to a mate at work who is touring through France this summer and apparently you need some sort of emissions certificate for your vehicle now or you could be fined 100 euros.
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Post by earthman on May 3, 2018 23:07:25 GMT 1
Just been talking to a mate at work who is touring through France this summer and apparently you need some sort of emissions certificate for your vehicle now or you could be fined 100 euros. Isn't that just for Paris though?? |
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Post by begbie on May 3, 2018 23:27:48 GMT 1
Just been talking to a mate at work who is touring through France this summer and apparently you need some sort of emissions certificate for your vehicle now or you could be fined 100 euros. Its a £5 sticker, and is not country wide. My TDR is banned Monday to Friday 8am to 8pm in the affected zones as it's non classified. " if you have a particularly old car or motorcycle that does not conform to any emissions standards, you won’t be eligible for a vignette and you won’t be permitted to drive/ride your vehicle during those times when restrictions are imposed, so between 8am and 8pm Monday to Friday." A sticker called Certificats qualité de l’air = 'Crit'Air' is mandatory for all vehicles if they want to enter a French 'low emission zone' called ZRC (zones with restricted circulation) or 'emergency low emission zone' called ZPA (air protection zone in cases of high pollution events). So far there are: Full-time Low Emission Zones (ZRC) in: Paris, Grenoble (only for heavy goods vehicles and light commercial vehicles). Bordeaux is expected to implement a Low Emission Zone (ZCR) in 2018. Also Rouen is likely to implement a Low Emission Zone (ZCR) at some point. Emergency Low Emission Zones (ZPA) in: Paris emergency LEZ, Grenoble emergency LEZ, Lyon emergency LEZ, Lille emergency LEZ, Strasbourg emergency LEZ, Toulouse emergency LEZ, Marseille emergency LEZ |
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Post by markhoopy on May 3, 2018 23:49:16 GMT 1
Just been talking to a mate at work who is touring through France this summer and apparently you need some sort of emissions certificate for your vehicle now or you could be fined 100 euros. Its a £5 sticker, and is not country wide. My TDR is banned Monday to Friday 8am to 8pm in the affected zones as it's non classified. " if you have a particularly old car or motorcycle that does not conform to any emissions standards, you won’t be eligible for a vignette and you won’t be permitted to drive/ride your vehicle during those times when restrictions are imposed, so between 8am and 8pm Monday to Friday." A sticker called Certificats qualité de l’air = 'Crit'Air' is mandatory for all vehicles if they want to enter a French 'low emission zone' called ZRC (zones with restricted circulation) or 'emergency low emission zone' called ZPA (air protection zone in cases of high pollution events). So far there are: Full-time Low Emission Zones (ZRC) in: Paris, Grenoble (only for heavy goods vehicles and light commercial vehicles). Bordeaux is expected to implement a Low Emission Zone (ZCR) in 2018. Also Rouen is likely to implement a Low Emission Zone (ZCR) at some point. Emergency Low Emission Zones (ZPA) in: Paris emergency LEZ, Grenoble emergency LEZ, Lyon emergency LEZ, Lille emergency LEZ, Strasbourg emergency LEZ, Toulouse emergency LEZ, Marseille emergency LEZ Does all this apply to vehicles that aren't owned or registered in France too? |
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Post by markhoopy on May 3, 2018 23:53:14 GMT 1
Im planning on going to Normandy landings on my 125lc i dont live far from hull so will gt ferry to bruge then do 150 miles one day into france and 120 the next day to caen im going to limit my top speed to 50mph to not overdo it on the engine,engine had a full rebuild last year new bearings seals etc etc i ran it in and caned it and siezed it as it was running to lean ive since done topend rebuild done the heat cycles just need to do another 50/100 miles to bed rings in and do a plug chop. when i wa\s 16 i used to go miles on my little rd50 Question is do you lot think 125 would do it with out to much trouble I kno i know its a 2t theres bound to be trouble what do you lot reckon i should take with me ? Have you changed the carburation since the rebuild so the mixture is richer than it was? If there is no backup or support vehicle travelling with you I would suggest you take out short term European recovery for the trip! |
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Post by earthman on May 4, 2018 8:58:19 GMT 1
Its a £5 sticker, and is not country wide. My TDR is banned Monday to Friday 8am to 8pm in the affected zones as it's non classified. " if you have a particularly old car or motorcycle that does not conform to any emissions standards, you won’t be eligible for a vignette and you won’t be permitted to drive/ride your vehicle during those times when restrictions are imposed, so between 8am and 8pm Monday to Friday." A sticker called Certificats qualité de l’air = 'Crit'Air' is mandatory for all vehicles if they want to enter a French 'low emission zone' called ZRC (zones with restricted circulation) or 'emergency low emission zone' called ZPA (air protection zone in cases of high pollution events). So far there are: Full-time Low Emission Zones (ZRC) in: Paris, Grenoble (only for heavy goods vehicles and light commercial vehicles). Bordeaux is expected to implement a Low Emission Zone (ZCR) in 2018. Also Rouen is likely to implement a Low Emission Zone (ZCR) at some point. Emergency Low Emission Zones (ZPA) in: Paris emergency LEZ, Grenoble emergency LEZ, Lyon emergency LEZ, Lille emergency LEZ, Strasbourg emergency LEZ, Toulouse emergency LEZ, Marseille emergency LEZ Does all this apply to vehicles that aren't owned or registered in France too? That's a good question,.....a guy at my work drove an Austin Seven over to France the other year, I'll have to ask him if he knows anything about it. I know that he went with a few other classic car owners at the time, they did have a couple of problems/breakdowns along the way but all clubbed together and solved them. |
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Post by begbie on May 4, 2018 11:03:59 GMT 1
Does all this apply to vehicles that aren't owned or registered in France too? Yes, No exceptions. it's all in the link I posted. |
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Post by jollyr6 on May 4, 2018 12:48:30 GMT 1
Yes, No exceptions. it's all in the link I posted. it just reads as gobbeldy gook to me im not going near paris using a roads and looked at registration but cant get link to work flipping hell and yes i have aa cover yipee |
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Post by copper99 on May 4, 2018 15:19:23 GMT 1
Sounds like a great adventure, best of luck to you, one concern maybe the availability of 2 stroke oil at petrol stations along the way?? I dunno, last time I drove through France, I didn't have that oil on my mind so wouldn't have noticed. France is far more accommodating to motorcyclists than the UK, last time I read, there are 4 to 5 times more 2 wheelers on the road in France than the UK and bike shops of all types are everywhere, from the age of 14, teenagers can ride a moped so 2 wheelers are part of the culture, you'd have more difficulty finding 2T oil riding from the Midlands to Liverpool than through the whole of France..or most of mainland Europe to be fair. Ive been unfortunate enough to breakdown or need some emergency assistance in France a couple of times and its all been swiftly dealt with by the locals, the place is geared up to help not hinder the traveler, contrast that to waiting on our now smart motorways with no hard shoulder and no interest from passing motorists.. Take your LC, im sure the old girl will make it and it'll make for a great adventure and loads of fun...reminds me a bit of the feature Performance Bikes magazine did in the 80s when they rode 125s to the Bol 'dor.! |
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Post by markhoopy on May 4, 2018 15:59:38 GMT 1
yes i have aa cover yipee Then you should be fine! |
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Post by earthman on May 4, 2018 18:04:40 GMT 1
Sounds like a great adventure, best of luck to you, one concern maybe the availability of 2 stroke oil at petrol stations along the way?? I dunno, last time I drove through France, I didn't have that oil on my mind so wouldn't have noticed. France is far more accommodating to motorcyclists than the UK, last time I read, there are 4 to 5 times more 2 wheelers on the road in France than the UK and bike shops of all types are everywhere, from the age of 14, teenagers can ride a moped so 2 wheelers are part of the culture, you'd have more difficulty finding 2T oil riding from the Midlands to Liverpool than through the whole of France..or most of mainland Europe to be fair. Ive been unfortunate enough to breakdown or need some emergency assistance in France a couple of times and its all been swiftly dealt with by the locals, the place is geared up to help not hinder the traveler, contrast that to waiting on our now smart motorways with no hard shoulder and no interest from passing motorists.. Take your LC, im sure the old girl will make it and it'll make for a great adventure and loads of fun...reminds me a bit of the feature Performance Bikes magazine did in the 80s when they rode 125s to the Bol 'dor.! I have done many tours through France on a Goldwing so know what you mean about motorcycling in general over there. Now if they are worried about the air quality etc, why are they allowing 2 stroke mopeds to be bought/used by all the youngsters?? |
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Post by finchyboy123 on May 4, 2018 19:29:17 GMT 1
id love to do this one day, good luck 👍🏼
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Post by copper99 on May 4, 2018 22:21:51 GMT 1
France is far more accommodating to motorcyclists than the UK, last time I read, there are 4 to 5 times more 2 wheelers on the road in France than the UK and bike shops of all types are everywhere, from the age of 14, teenagers can ride a moped so 2 wheelers are part of the culture, you'd have more difficulty finding 2T oil riding from the Midlands to Liverpool than through the whole of France..or most of mainland Europe to be fair. Ive been unfortunate enough to breakdown or need some emergency assistance in France a couple of times and its all been swiftly dealt with by the locals, the place is geared up to help not hinder the traveler, contrast that to waiting on our now smart motorways with no hard shoulder and no interest from passing motorists.. Take your LC, im sure the old girl will make it and it'll make for a great adventure and loads of fun...reminds me a bit of the feature Performance Bikes magazine did in the 80s when they rode 125s to the Bol 'dor.! I have done many tours through France on a Goldwing so know what you mean about motorcycling in general over there. Now if they are worried about the air quality etc, why are they allowing 2 stroke mopeds to be bought/used by all the youngsters?? The vast majority of even the 50s now are 4 stroke, the wee Moblyette peds where banned a decade or so ago IIRC. |
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Post by earthman on May 4, 2018 22:31:39 GMT 1
I have done many tours through France on a Goldwing so know what you mean about motorcycling in general over there. Now if they are worried about the air quality etc, why are they allowing 2 stroke mopeds to be bought/used by all the youngsters?? The vast majority of even the 50s now are 4 stroke, the wee Moblyette peds where banned a decade or so ago IIRC. I gathered that were certainly the case in the UK at least,.....so if it's the same situation in France, why would you assume that there is more chance of finding 2 stroke oil for sale in their petrol stations?? That doesn't make sense to me, normally the current 'market' dictates whether or not a product is actually stocked in outlets. |
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Post by wonkywheel on May 7, 2018 19:32:15 GMT 1
Sounds like an adventure for a worthy cause.
150 + 120 for an LC is nothing over a couple of days.
If you have serious problems, your breakdown cover will get you home.
The engine sounds sweet, but has the oil pump had an overhaul? Because that is one of the main gremlins that might cause you a headache- engine failure.
If the CDI or charging fails- that’s bad luck.
If you go for it and return trouble free- what magic memories!
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Post by copper99 on May 8, 2018 14:59:06 GMT 1
The vast majority of even the 50s now are 4 stroke, the wee Moblyette peds where banned a decade or so ago IIRC. I gathered that were certainly the case in the UK at least,.....so if it's the same situation in France, why would you assume that there is more chance of finding 2 stroke oil for sale in their petrol stations?? That doesn't make sense to me, normally the current 'market' dictates whether or not a product is actually stocked in outlets. Simples, as you agree, the market is bigger in France and whilst road going strokers are no longer in production, plenty of them are still on the road and the French love their strokers as much as we do, more bikes mean there is more bike shops and more outlets selling oil, dont forget, you can still but new off road 2 stroke bikes here and abroad. Lastly, we took our strokers to France in 2016 so saw the situation for ourselves. |
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Post by earthman on May 8, 2018 17:11:44 GMT 1
I gathered that were certainly the case in the UK at least,.....so if it's the same situation in France, why would you assume that there is more chance of finding 2 stroke oil for sale in their petrol stations?? That doesn't make sense to me, normally the current 'market' dictates whether or not a product is actually stocked in outlets. Simples, as you agree, the market is bigger in France and whilst road going strokers are no longer in production, plenty of them are still on the road and the French love their strokers as much as we do, more bikes mean there is more bike shops and more outlets selling oil, dont forget, you can still but new off road 2 stroke bikes here and abroad. Lastly, we took our strokers to France in 2016 so saw the situation for ourselves. Hopefully the OP won't have a problem then. So far over here, I've only seen a couple of petrol stations selling the cheapest/nasty looking 2 stroke oil, they have been in rural locations so more likely aimed at chain saw users I'd guess. |
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