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Post by flames on Oct 18, 2020 13:07:52 GMT 1
I was a big big fan of the 400. One of my all time favourites. This one is a massive improvement in my opinion..... something I didn't think was possible .😁
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Post by dusty350 on Oct 22, 2020 21:49:07 GMT 1
Spliced in a 6mm "t" piece into the oil feed pipe from the tank today, and ran a clear pipe up the side of the rad to act as a sight tube for the autolube oil; 20201022_160437 by dusty miller, on Flickr Also found some ali hose separators on ebay, so fitted those instead of the red cable ties. Also fitted new, red breather valves on the clear sight tubes - small parts but they look better I think. Dusty
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Post by donkeychomp on Oct 22, 2020 22:39:35 GMT 1
I really need to see this...
Alex
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Post by sidney81 on Oct 23, 2020 7:09:02 GMT 1
Great Idea simple and effective ,it's the small bits makes all the difference , looking lovley
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Post by 2taol on Oct 24, 2020 23:14:50 GMT 1
yes, well though out and a nice result. looks really eye catching.
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Post by zig on Jan 2, 2021 19:18:47 GMT 1
Spliced in a 6mm "t" piece into the oil feed pipe from the tank today, and ran a clear pipe up the side of the rad to act as a sight tube for the autolube oil; 20201022_160437 by dusty miller, on Flickr Also found some ali hose separators on ebay, so fitted those instead of the red cable ties. Also fitted new, red breather valves on the clear sight tubes - small parts but they look better I think. Dusty
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Post by zig on Jan 2, 2021 19:19:44 GMT 1
Stunning build and attention to detail is simply the key....which you have the eye for Dusty ZiG
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Post by dusty350 on Jan 2, 2021 21:50:15 GMT 1
Thanks She sits under a sheet in the garage waiting for me to get going again. Hopefully will get her finished this year 20201118_160158 by dusty miller, on Flickr
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Post by sidney81 on Jan 3, 2021 10:15:31 GMT 1
Thanks She sits under a sheet in the garage waiting for me to get going again. Hopefully will get her finished this year 20201118_160158 by dusty miller, on Flickr everytime I see this bike I get excited dusty I think it's such a weapon!!!
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Post by dusty350 on Jan 3, 2021 10:41:58 GMT 1
Hi Chris I did approach Mark Dent back in October about making some pipes for it, as he is very local to me, but he is a hard guy to pin down. Still cant decide whether to go with stingers or to have cans on the pipes? Stingers would look and sound awesome, but too loud for road use. But I will probably never ride it on the road so ?? I got so involved with the 400 build that this got sidelined Dusty
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Post by sidney81 on Jan 3, 2021 11:22:58 GMT 1
The stinger's would really suit it I think , and sound awesome 😎😊would they be loud ??
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Post by jon on Jan 3, 2021 11:43:45 GMT 1
Hi Chris I did approach Mark Dent back in October about making some pipes for it, as he is very local to me, but he is a hard guy to pin down. Still cant decide whether to go with stingers or to have cans on the pipes? Stingers would look and sound awesome, but too loud for road use. But I will probably never ride it on the road so ?? I got so involved with the 400 build that this got sidelined Dusty Why not have stingers, but with a small hook welded on the outside if the stinger on the swingarm side? They wouldn’t really notice then, but would allow you to have detachable cans that fitted on the ends with a spring attachment. I’m sure I’ve seen some Gibsons with a similar setup with spring top and bottom. IIRC they were on a race bike so in the event of a spill, you could replace the end can easily? Jon
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Post by dusty350 on Jan 3, 2021 12:15:00 GMT 1
Stingers would be loud - I think it's the pitch that can be painful to the ears. I remember being at Brands a couple of years back, and a guy in the Paddock was running up an early Tz, and it wasn't so much the loudness, but more the high pitch of the exhausts. They do sound awesome, but would be no good for regular road riding and no doubt illegal, but that really isn't the issue for me. I have built the bike to be fully functioning and capable of passing an MOT, with the possible exception of the pipes should I go for stingers. It's more about what looks in keeping with the build now, and having something else on the bike which differs from the norm. Hi Jon. I have considered spring clips that could attach a can with an end plate arrangement, should I wish to fit cans. Whoever builds the pipes will be quizzed as to the possible options, but if I go with stingers, I would really want them free of welded on clips so the end pipes looked seamless. Dusty
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Post by midlifecrisisrd on Jan 5, 2021 16:54:03 GMT 1
It must be possible to have stingers with the capability of adding 6 inch cans for road use
If you leave the stinger plain but get some can flanges made with say a 3 inch stinger tube welded onto the silencer flange with an ID the same as the actual exhaust stinger OD
That way there could be a spring hook at the last cone where the stinger joins so out the way
The other thing if running stinger only pipes is something Dave Swarbrick mentioned
When I ordered the TR pipes he asked if it was road or track. When I said road he advised that even with the alloy silencers it would make your ears bleed. As you say it's the pitch of the noise
He advised making the stingers 100mm longer and feed that 100mm into the last cone like the integral stingers on Microns
He said you won't feel it on the road power wise but it will tone the noise down
Even if you go for stingers only and you decide it's too loud it's a piece of pish to add a can flange
Steve
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Post by 4l04ever on Jan 5, 2021 17:52:30 GMT 1
I think the stinger has to go to the middle of the fattest section for maximum noise reduction.
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Post by dusty350 on Jan 5, 2021 20:56:50 GMT 1
I was talking to Mouse about this, and we came to the decision that when it comes to the time for pipes, just go for stingers, if that's what I really want ! If I ever sell the bike. it wont be the hardest job in the world for the new owner to get some cans sorted for it. No end cans will keep the pipes looking short, which is the look I would prefer. Dusty
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Post by gazzatt2 on Jan 10, 2021 22:14:47 GMT 1
Spliced in a 6mm "t" piece into the oil feed pipe from the tank today, and ran a clear pipe up the side of the rad to act as a sight tube for the autolube oil; 20201022_160437 by dusty miller, on Flickr Also found some ali hose separators on ebay, so fitted those instead of the red cable ties. Also fitted new, red breather valves on the clear sight tubes - small parts but they look better I think. Dusty Hi what did you search for on ebay for the hose separators I tried today as I need some but could not find any like that tia Gazza
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Post by dusty350 on Jan 11, 2021 8:27:04 GMT 1
Hi Gazza bond-express was the seller. they were listed as BLACK AN4 10.88MM Braided Hose Separator Clamp Dusty
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Post by dusty350 on Jan 22, 2021 22:17:55 GMT 1
Having used an R6 gear change arm on the Rd400 build, I decided to get one for this bike. The wider rear wheel/swingarm means the footrests sit further away from the frame, which in turn means the gear lever rod sits at quite an angle to operate the lever on the gear shaft. This is the set up at the mo; 20210122_135943 by dusty miller, on Flickr The straight lever on the gear change shaft means using a spacer to get a decent angle for the rod. Not ideal, and I wanted to do away with the spacer - finding the R6 item means the rod can bolt directly to the lever on the shaft due to it's offset, so doing away with the spacer. Next issue - the rod set up at the mo is using M8 female rose joints at each end. The R6 gear shaft lever has an M6 threaded hole which I didn't want to drill out to M8, as I felt it would lose too much metal. Both the R6 levers I have bought came with the R6 rods. M8 fixing at the footrest end, and M6 where it fixes to the lever. So, if I could use the R6 rod it would be good. It's female fittings at both ends whereas the exising rod is male threaded fixings, so I cant use that rod. The other issue is the ali R6 rod is too long for my set up. The plan was to shorten the R6 rod at each end. Keep the R6, male M6 rose joint but cut off some of the thread so it would fit further into the shortened rod. At the other end cut down the rod and use a left handed, male M8 rose joint that I happened to have left over from a pair I bought new, ages ago, and again, reduce the length of the thread so it could fit further into the shortened rod. I put the rod in the lathe and reduced each end down, and then cut the threads down on the rose joints. The top rod is the cut down version, the bottom Rod is a standard R6; 20210122_140224 by dusty miller, on Flickr And with the M8 rose joint fitted; 20210122_140534 by dusty miller, on Flickr I used Locktite on the M8 rose joint thread, and the M6 end remains adjustable should I need to. Hopefully fit it all tomorrow Dusty
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Post by oldbritguy on Jan 22, 2021 22:24:20 GMT 1
Lathe is starting to earn it's corn now Dusty. Top work as usual John
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Post by dusty350 on Jan 22, 2021 22:42:22 GMT 1
Hi John, Hope all is good with you mate Yea, I would have done hacksaw/vice/file in the past, but the lathe makes a really neat and accurate job of something that is so simple really. It wont really come into it's own until I get another project bike - the 2 bikes in the garage have had virtually all the engineering done now. It's very satisfying using it though, and although I'm still very much a novice, I can see myself using it more and more in the future. Just wish the auto jumbles were on so I could pick up some ali bar to practise with Dusty
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Post by oldbritguy on Jan 23, 2021 12:39:15 GMT 1
Hi Dusty All is well here buddy and hope you are all well too. New dog will be keeping you all on your toes no doubt plus will need a bit of training to help you in the workshop with the build. Indie has some work cut out that is for sure with the new apprentice. Been more of an observer than participant this past while however I have been busy gathering parts plus a bit of fettling so with work permitting i should be back on the tools real soon. Lots of tutorials on youtube for lathe work and if you can source some nylon too it is superb for practicing on without metal swarf getting everywhere. Better for the dogs paws if they are in the garage. Looking forward to your next updates as that is really spurring me on too John
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Post by dusty350 on Jan 24, 2021 11:54:16 GMT 1
Cheers John The lathe, pillar drill etc are all in the shed as I have a really small garage, so all the fab work gets done down there and then transferred up to the garage for fitting. I originally built the shed as a place to build the bikes up as well as doing all the prep and fab work, but it now gets used just for the cutting/grinding/polishing jobs mainly, so the dogs wont be going in there Indie often sits in the garage with me when I bolt stuff together, or we sit and contemplate our next jobs ! Hopefully Willow will do the same I fitted the shortened R6 gear rod and arm on today; 20210124_100322 by dusty miller, on Flickr 20210124_100329 by dusty miller, on Flickr It's given me a bit more offset too, so I'm pleased with that. Exhausts are the next job. I'm determined to get this bike finished this year. I have offered up one of the 400's Allspeeds and it looks like it would fit - it should do as it's an aircooled frame, and the Pv exhaust ports should be roughly were a 250/400 ports would be. I'm planning on borrowing some Ypvs pipes and seeing how they line up. Covid restrictions mean I wont be travelling anywhere to drop the bike off for pipes to be made, so I'm hoping a set supplied with the rear brackets loose will solve the issue. I'm hoping to get some of Daves/Alonze pipes in stainless. I did try Mark Dent as he is 3 miles from me but he is notoriously difficult to pin down, and doesn't answer messages or his phone ! I've had Dave's pipes before and they are awesome and would be my first choice, but it's a long way from London to Yorkshire, so I'm hoping plan B may work Dusty
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Post by jon on Jan 24, 2021 12:00:43 GMT 1
dustyIt’s a shame about Mark Dent. He must have more than enough work lined up? I’ve tried him too before with no luck. As he won’t answer the phone or return messages, why not knock on his door being only 3 miles away? Jon
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Post by dusty350 on Jan 24, 2021 12:09:47 GMT 1
Hi Jon, I did just that, back in October last year. Asked me to confirm with a message through his Facebook page, and then doesn't answer subsequent messages ! I know Mouse has had similar issues, as have plenty of others. I had Daves/Alonze pipes down as first choice from the start, but I cant drive up to Yorkshire and back, twice, any time soon, so if Mark had been an option it would have been easy. Martin Newlyn also approached me after seeing the bike on a Facebook forum, but he is the other side of Chelmsford, so still around 100 miles from me. My welding guy has a mobile set up so could come to me to sort the rear brackets if I can get some exhausts made remotely. That's my main hope for it at the mo. Dusty
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Post by jon on Jan 24, 2021 12:24:33 GMT 1
I’ve taken a bike to Gibsons before to have them fitted. They did a nice job. Slightly fatter chambers than standard, but well tucked in a a counter stand.
Shame even they don’t seem interested in custom for anything but the standard Allspeed style, as when I asked for another bespoke fitted pipe they weren’t interested.
Seems odd ro me that small niche businesses don’t have their work dry up from time to time? You’d have thought even giving a long waiting list you’d have a more stable source of business if you answered or were willing.
Jon
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Post by dusty350 on Jan 24, 2021 12:47:03 GMT 1
Mark Dent has plenty of work on. He is the "go to" Rg500 guy for pipes, engine builds, wiring, trick parts etc. Then there are all the other bikes he does pipes for too, plus dyno work. He is heavily involved in Bemsee, sponsors racers and does prep work for them, so he has lots going on all the time. I'm not knocking him - his work is fantastic and I've never seen welding like it on his pipes. But In October, he told me Feb/March this year, so that's an indication of how much he has going on. I just wish I could get a reply so I could make plans Dusty
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Post by rsvr1000 on Jan 25, 2021 18:51:24 GMT 1
Thanks She sits under a sheet in the garage waiting for me to get going again. Hopefully will get her finished this year 20201118_160158 by dusty miller, on Flickr Wow, absolutely stunning 😍 would love to build something like this but wouldn't have a clue where to start 😄 I will just stick to restoring them as standard 😀 😊
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Post by zig on Jan 28, 2021 16:02:38 GMT 1
I do like the duck tail seat - just thought I would offer the other up to see how it looks. Will need to shorten it first. Today I tackled the paint on the ally tank. I'm going for a different scheme and wanted to get the paint off to see how good the tank was underneath. I tried the other day with a sanding disc in my angle grinder, but that was going to take for ever, so I ordered some strong paint stripper from ebay, and today "was the day" ! 20180630_100734 by David Miller, on Flickr It's taken about 4 hours so far - there is about 3 layers of paint beneath the red top coat. Still, mostly done now, just need to spend some time on the underside; 20180630_170047 by David Miller, on Flickr 20180630_164553 by David Miller, on Flickr Good thing is that there is not much filler considering it's a race tank ! Mark Cordwell will be my painter of choice when I'm ready. Still need to decide on a scheme Dusty
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Post by zig on Jan 28, 2021 16:03:54 GMT 1
Thanks She sits under a sheet in the garage waiting for me to get going again. Hopefully will get her finished this year 20201118_160158 by dusty miller, on Flickr everytime I see this bike I get excited dusty I think it's such a weapon!!! that tank is exceptional , what is it from Dusty?? very nice
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